satoshin@gmx.com is compromised - page 5.

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Quote from: NewLiberty on September 15, 2014, 07:13:48 AM

Quote from: bigasic on September 13, 2014, 05:20:01 PM

I believe that post when he stated "I am not Dorian" is from SN. From the logs of the emails that were posted, the hacker just received access right before he sent the email to theymos. So, I believe that earlier post is legit...

Perhaps the account was for sale ('on the darknet' as mentioned by the second, current hacker), The email could have been from the first hacker that sent the 'not Dorian' message, and subsequently access to the account bought by this new guy, who wants to make back his 25 BTC so he doesn't take a loss on the purchase of the account.

Keep in mind that he won't say how he hacked it but brags about everything else, quite possibly because he simply didn't.

I would doubt that credentials to an email account would go for that much money, even the email of a famous/significant person. I remember reading in the news that credit card number of accounts that were stolen in the Target breach were selling for only pennies on the dollar. It was also implied that the pictures of the celebs that had their pics stolen off of iCloud were sold for relatively small amounts (it was unclear as to how much was paid for them, but I got the impression it was much less then 25 BTC worth).

Also I would doubt someone as immature as the hacker appeared to have been would have had access to the resources to pay 25 BTC for the credentials to his email account

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I would say messages that are to be confirmed to be from satashi would have some influence on the price of bitcoin. A message being signed with his PGP key or with the private key of one of his known mining addresses would likely be sufficient proof that the message was from him.

They key difference in this example is that it was overly clear that the messages were not coming from satashi but rather from some immature hacker/prankster. What was said via satashi's hacked accounts was nothing more then a little bit of noise to the market

sateshi doesn't like nicknames

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Quote from: AGD on September 16, 2014, 07:31:31 AM

Quote from: franky1 on September 16, 2014, 05:38:44 AM

the hacker DOES have access to satoshi's email. but he is also faking information. such as the cardreaderfactory email order. and also other things like pretending the bitcoin creator had a btc-e account.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (half way down the article).

after all the bitcoin creator disappeared BEFORE btc-e was launched.(thus the username on btc-e is not the bitcoin creator but someone pretending to be him)

it appears that the article writer linked above, started reading this topic and then made up an interview using the screengrab links from this very topic and other fake information.

all we can be sure of is that bitoin itself cant be hacked and that this drama of who has his email is meaningless

True.
Even the originally signed message will not change the price of BTC anymore. Only dumps from his wallets will cause some panic.

I would say messages that are to be confirmed to be from satashi would have some influence on the price of bitcoin. A message being signed with his PGP key or with the private key of one of his known mining addresses would likely be sufficient proof that the message was from him.

They key difference in this example is that it was overly clear that the messages were not coming from satashi but rather from some immature hacker/prankster. What was said via satashi's hacked accounts was nothing more then a little bit of noise to the market

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Quote from: X7 on September 16, 2014, 12:12:21 PM

Meanwhile Satoshi is having coffee with his BFF like look at these forums bruh... so many mad kids... brb rubbing my paper wallets on my nips..

(Lol obv joking)

+5

I just shot a soy latte out my nose...

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Quote from: NewLiberty on September 15, 2014, 07:13:48 AM

Quote from: bigasic on September 13, 2014, 05:20:01 PM

I believe that post when he stated "I am not Dorian" is from SN. From the logs of the emails that were posted, the hacker just received access right before he sent the email to theymos. So, I believe that earlier post is legit...

Perhaps the account was for sale ('on the darknet' as mentioned by the second, current hacker), The email could have been from the first hacker that sent the 'not Dorian' message, and subsequently access to the account bought by this new guy, who wants to make back his 25 BTC so he doesn't take a loss on the purchase of the account.

Keep in mind that he won't say how he hacked it but brags about everything else, quite possibly because he simply didn't.

I pity the person who would spend that on an email account, even with any sort of significance.

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Quote from: coolmyrig on September 16, 2014, 09:17:14 AM

Quote from: betterchoice on September 16, 2014, 08:28:43 AM

Maybe the account is sold by the admin of GMX.com Roll Eyes

wow，you are quite right! Grin

Sure it's a possibility but unlikely and I'm sure this just got hacked.

Quote from: X7 on September 16, 2014, 12:12:21 PM

Meanwhile Satoshi is having coffee with his BFF like look at these forums bruh... so many mad kids... brb rubbing my paper wallets on my nips..

(Lol obv joking)

LOL Literally laughed out loud at that.

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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone

Meanwhile Satoshi is having coffee with his BFF like look at these forums bruh... so many mad kids... brb rubbing my paper wallets on my nips..

(Lol obv joking)

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Quote from: betterchoice on September 16, 2014, 08:28:43 AM

Maybe the account is sold by the admin of GMX.com Roll Eyes

wow，you are quite right! Grin

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Maybe the account is sold by the admin of GMX.com Roll Eyes

AGD

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Quote from: franky1 on September 16, 2014, 05:38:44 AM

the hacker DOES have access to satoshi's email. but he is also faking information. such as the cardreaderfactory email order. and also other things like pretending the bitcoin creator had a btc-e account.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (half way down the article).

after all the bitcoin creator disappeared BEFORE btc-e was launched.(thus the username on btc-e is not the bitcoin creator but someone pretending to be him)

it appears that the article writer linked above, started reading this topic and then made up an interview using the screengrab links from this very topic and other fake information.

all we can be sure of is that bitoin itself cant be hacked and that this drama of who has his email is meaningless

True.
Even the originally signed message will not change the price of BTC anymore. Only dumps from his wallets will cause some panic.

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Quote from: AGD on September 13, 2014, 02:50:43 PM

If it was the real Satoshi who wrote "I am not ..", he would definitely have signed the message, as he wanted the people to believe that it really was him. He would never forget that. So it was not him.

The real Satoshi would not sign the message. Not even a chance, unless the real Satoshi is flat-out stupid.

Signing a message like that would be huge news. The price would be greatly affected (likely downwards), people would likely be even more inclined to think Dorian Nakamoto created Bitcoin, and it would encourage a lot more attention to be focused on him, which doesn't seem to be what he wants.

By not signing it, "he" created ambiguity. That was the only way to do it in order to not causes a huge ripple effect throughout the entire community.

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the hacker DOES have access to satoshi's email. but he is also faking information. such as the cardreaderfactory email order. and also other things like pretending the bitcoin creator had a btc-e account.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-satoshi-nakamoto-email-hacker-says-hes-negotiating-with-the-bitcoin-founder (half way down the article).

after all the bitcoin creator disappeared BEFORE btc-e was launched.(thus the username on btc-e is not the bitcoin creator but someone pretending to be him)

it appears that the article writer linked above, started reading this topic and then made up an interview using the screengrab links from this very topic and other fake information.

all we can be sure of is that bitoin itself cant be hacked and that this drama of who has his email is meaningless

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Quote from: AGD on September 16, 2014, 03:11:59 AM

Also possible that SN has been killed years ago and his email account was compromised since then. Years later they tried to hide their tracks by acting like SN was still alive at that time, when they posted "I am not Dorian Nakamoto". They didn't extract the PGP key from SN, so they weren't able to sign the message as a proof, but at least it looks kinda legit using his p2pf account to post this.

6 month later they make up a story about an idiot hacker who is trying to make money with the identity of SN, because he somehow hacked [email protected] and even was able to send emails to long time members of bitcointalk.org and others as a proof that Nakamotos email account has indeed been compromised. Hacker makes a screenshot of the incoming folder of SN email account and states that "Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive and his identity is going to be revealed after the payment of 25 BTC"
He fails to get the big money (only 1.5 BTC) and even was doxxed by greaterninja another bitcoitalk.org hero member.
Hacker then vanishes. with his knowledge of who is SN and his gmx account gets finally closed.

This makes a good movie...

Really good movie

AGD

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Keeper of the Private Key

Also possible that SN has been killed years ago and his email account was compromised since then. Years later they tried to hide their tracks by acting like SN was still alive at that time, when they posted "I am not Dorian Nakamoto". They didn't extract the PGP key from SN, so they weren't able to sign the message as a proof, but at least it looks kinda legit using his p2pf account to post this.

6 month later they make up a story about an idiot hacker who is trying to make money with the identity of SN, because he somehow hacked [email protected] and even was able to send emails to long time members of bitcointalk.org and others as a proof that Nakamotos email account has indeed been compromised. Hacker makes a screenshot of the incoming folder of SN email account and states that "Satoshi Nakamoto is still alive and his identity is going to be revealed after the payment of 25 BTC"
He fails to get the big money (only 1.5 BTC) and even was doxxed by greaterninja another bitcoitalk.org hero member.
Hacker then vanishes. with his knowledge of who is SN and his gmx account gets finally closed.

This makes a good movie...

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Quote from: bigasic on September 13, 2014, 05:20:01 PM

I believe that post when he stated "I am not Dorian" is from SN. From the logs of the emails that were posted, the hacker just received access right before he sent the email to theymos. So, I believe that earlier post is legit...

Perhaps the account was for sale ('on the darknet' as mentioned by the second, current hacker), The email could have been from the first hacker that sent the 'not Dorian' message, and subsequently access to the account bought by this new guy, who wants to make back his 25 BTC so he doesn't take a loss on the purchase of the account.

Keep in mind that he won't say how he hacked it but brags about everything else, quite possibly because he simply didn't.

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Quote from: DubFX on September 15, 2014, 04:52:28 AM

Someone could have bruteforced it or something, i don't know but i doubt that it's compromised anyway.

There's plenty of proof that it was hacked. Screenshots, people getting forwarded mails from that address and people even having conversations with it. It was hacked in some way or another.

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Quote from: DubFX on September 15, 2014, 04:52:28 AM

Someone could have bruteforced it or something, i don't know but i doubt that it's compromised anyway.

It was already been said days ago, they deactivated the account of satoshi on SF before any file changes could be made.

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Quote from: Winner on September 15, 2014, 04:50:26 AM

Quote from: DubFX on September 15, 2014, 04:13:05 AM

Ahh silly guys...this is example how it could have been done, that's why the responses to these mails weren't delivered.

explain bitcoin changed to buttcoin in sourceforge..

Someone could have bruteforced it or something, i don't know but i doubt that it's compromised anyway.

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Look ARROUND!

Quote from: DubFX on September 15, 2014, 04:13:05 AM

Ahh silly guys...this is example how it could have been done, that's why the responses to these mails weren't delivered.

explain bitcoin changed to buttcoin in sourceforge..

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Ahh silly guys...this is example how it could have been done, that's why the responses to these mails weren't delivered.

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