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October 11, 2024, 11:36:57 PM
Since the 2016 season Al Hilal has completely dominated the Arab league continuously, and once under Al Ittihad in the 2022-2023 season and they have slightly decreased to third place but after that until today they continue to be at the top, it shows that this team is much more consistent than other teams, including this season also seems to be the same thing happening to AL Hilal, they will continue to be at the top of the table.
Al Hilal is a club with most success in Saudi Arabia and in history of Saudi Professional League, they win most titles. The domestic league in Saudi Arabia has several changes in history, from Categorization League, Premier League, to Pro League, but through its history, Al Hilal has most titles.

Domination of Al Hilal in Saudi Arabia is longer than since 2016 season. You can see their 19 titles since 1976 - 1977 season.
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1976–77, 1978–79, 1984–85, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 1995–96, 1997–98, 2001–02, 2004–05, 2007–08, 2009–10, 2010–11, 2016–17, 2017–18, 2019–20, 2020–21, 2021–22, 2023–24

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I am quite doubtful that their meeting will get a victory for AL Nassr, although I am a fan of Ronaldo but if you see him who is old and not as prime as when he was young it will not be able to bring the team to victory madly, this match is likely to draw or be won by AL Hilal.
Al Hilal is more stable than Al Nassr and they can win more matches than Al Hilal, drop less points than the competitor. Al Nassr has weak defense that costs them many points from either draws or defeats. Even Al Nassr won't lose in two direct matches with Al Hilal, they will drop more points than Al Hilal to other clubs in Saudi Professional League.
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October 11, 2024, 11:23:26 PM
Only very rich clubs in Saudi Arabia with financial support from their government can pay very lucrative salary to Neymar. The player is useless in the last two seasons by getting a serious injury, missing many matches and even now, he is not fully ready for matches with a latest failed medical examination from Al Hilal.

Neymar is earning a lot of money from Al Hilal but he can learn lessons from some Brazilian players like Ronaldino, Dani Alves who broke financially after their retirement. Earning hundreds of million of dollars is good but Neymar must manage his personal finance well, if he does not want to be broken financially like Ronaldinho and Dani Alves, who received financial support from Neymar in their worst times too.
The truth is a shame that Ney is going through this situation and that he can't contribute to AL Hilal, because I am very aware that his injury is quite serious, and he must feel frustrated, although with all the millions he earns just for being himself, I think it will go away when he sees the numbers, I hope he gets better completely soon, now, with respect to the financial side it is a little different, Ney has a wife and children, he can't and shouldn't go crazy, family is very important to him, so it is normal that he looks after the good future of his family and doesn't spend or waste his money.
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October 11, 2024, 04:04:33 PM
I keep saying the same thing over and over again, but when a team wins every game, there is really nothing another team can do.

People are disappointed with Ronaldo not getting a title here, but Hilal keeps winning every game, what can Al Nassr do against a team like that? They can't keep winning every game in return, the yare worse than Al Hilal that much is known but at the same time the yare not getting bad averages neither, they are playing very well, only problem is Al Hilal is doing even worse.

We should realize how we could make a big difference on this based on what we are getting in return and I believe we are going to see this getting to a seriously problem way for Al Nassr, they are spending a ton of money and getting nothing.

Neymar added to Al Hilal could actually ruin their streak, and if this happens then we could see maybe Al Nassr having a chance, I am waiting for a potential like this so we can have fun once again with this league.
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October 11, 2024, 03:47:41 PM
In my opinion it is not much compared to last season where Al Hilal did not experience defeat for a whole season and only achieved 3 draws, since last season Al Hilal has indeed appeared impressive with their consistent performance and it seems they will repeat it again this season their unbeaten record is still continuing and no one has stopped them even Al Ittihad who are currently also performing strongly in the SPL have not been able to stop Al Hilal's record I also doubt other clubs including Al Nassr last season this club was always defeated by Al Hilal in many meetings.

Al Hilal has being very consistent since last season and they're the worst nightmare of Al nassr, Al Nassr tried several times but couldn't defeat Al Hilal and they still haven't made any improvements to their teams to be sure that they can defeat them if they meet again. Al Nassr and Al Hilal meets on the 11th of November and both teams have being on an incredible form therefore it's going to be exciting to watch both teams play but Al nassr has to be the underdogs in this game as they haven't scored any win against Al Hilal in their last 5 meetings. Al Hilal is setting at the top of the table with a 100% clean records after 6 games, 6 wins this season.

Since the 2016 season Al Hilal has completely dominated the Arab league continuously, and once under Al Ittihad in the 2022-2023 season and they have slightly decreased to third place but after that until today they continue to be at the top, it shows that this team is much more consistent than other teams, including this season also seems to be the same thing happening to AL Hilal, they will continue to be at the top of the table. I am quite doubtful that their meeting will get a victory for AL Nassr, although I am a fan of Ronaldo but if you see him who is old and not as prime as when he was young it will not be able to bring the team to victory madly, this match is likely to draw or be won by AL Hilal.
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October 11, 2024, 03:36:25 PM
Neymar was considered one of the best strikers of all time but has spent most of his career on the bench due to injuries. As a result, despite having talent and skills in himself, he has not been able to fully express himself in the world of football. Had he not been sidelined due to injury problems, he might have won the Ballon d'Or and other individual awards by now. When he was healthy, Neymar played well in most of the matches even played an important role in the team's victory.
Neymar never played as a striker, how he can be the best striker? I think he is among the best wingers in history.
It is true that Neymar spent a lot of time in the bench because he is prone of injury. Neymar failed to improve his physical, he also doesn't keep his fitness. It is because he has a bad life style, this is one of the classic problem of Brazilian players.

Football fans are still hopeful that Neymar will be able to perform like before when he returns to football once he recovers. Being out of the field for a long time, his performance may be lacking. He is still undergoing treatment, working to maintain his fitness, and it is not yet certain when he will be able to return to football.
Although all football fans expect him to play in his best level again. I think it is a very small chance. Neymar is getting old, he never changed. I think it is better to retire and focus on a new career. Neymar has spent too much time for recovering from the injury. It is not an easy injury to recover, it is very serious injury.

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October 11, 2024, 03:09:24 PM
Neymar "used to be" good, nowadays we all know he doesn't worth his money at all, and this year his contract will end and he will be let go, there is no way they will pay him, makes no sense. This dude goes to any team he wants, because of his name and his historical performances and his marketing power basically, then gets injured and doesn't play half of the games or more, and then takes the money and leaves. Who would want a player like this?

Saudi Arabian team only accepted because they do need marketing more than anything else, and they got him for this purpose alone, they are winning every game anyways, they do not need a good player, they needed an influencer that's it. Was it worth it?

I do not think so, I believe it was a bad move by them but they got him anyways. He may end up retiring at the end of the season, he can't go back to Brazil neither, too many problems, he is going to either retire, or accept he is not wanted by top teams anymore and accept a small amount at some bad club.

Any other decision but letting him go would be insane by Al-Hilal, but make no mistake, the clubs from the Saudi Pro League are not only watching out for high quality players, for their following on social media. If they want to draw attention to their league, they are literally willing to pay social media success. Now the issue with Neymar is that he isn't even on the field playing. It doesn't make sense for fans to buy his jersey or any other merch. This really didn't pay off for them. But when he played and I remember a few games of him, it never looked as if he is fully into it. Of course he is still a great player and it can look great whatever he is doing, but it wasn't true passion.

I have asked myself whether they had some sort of clause implemented in the contract that he wouldn't be paid this is absurd salary in case he gets injured. Paying the guy for sitting at home would hurt most clubs, but probably not those from Saudi Arabia.

But I think all of this didn't go unnoticed and the question is where will he be playing as he is only 32 years old. Who would be willing to work with him?
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October 11, 2024, 02:26:52 PM
In my opinion, Neymar is still very good. He's still among the top 5 best players in his position in the world. The major problem he has is his chronic injuries. Take the injuries away and no player in Europe is a better winger or better attacking midfielder than Neymar.
Neymar belonged to top 5 players, that is right but only right like 3 years ago or a little farther to the past like 5 years ago. Neymar together with Bale, and Hazard were considered as best players in a next generation after Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic but they never won Ballon d'Or. Now Bale and Hazard retired and only Neymar is playing but he is no longer as one of best 5 players. Mbappe, Haaland, Vinicius, Jude, Salah and other players are better than Neymar now.

With big assumption that he has no injury, and his body was not affected by previous injuries, you can award Neymar a Ballon d'Or, but in reality it is impossible.
Neymar "used to be" good, nowadays we all know he doesn't worth his money at all, and this year his contract will end and he will be let go, there is no way they will pay him, makes no sense. This dude goes to any team he wants, because of his name and his historical performances and his marketing power basically, then gets injured and doesn't play half of the games or more, and then takes the money and leaves. Who would want a player like this?

Saudi Arabian team only accepted because they do need marketing more than anything else, and they got him for this purpose alone, they are winning every game anyways, they do not need a good player, they needed an influencer that's it. Was it worth it?

I do not think so, I believe it was a bad move by them but they got him anyways. He may end up retiring at the end of the season, he can't go back to Brazil neither, too many problems, he is going to either retire, or accept he is not wanted by top teams anymore and accept a small amount at some bad club.
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October 11, 2024, 11:44:09 AM

No team ever needs a player like Neymar. He is totally not in the good firm and he can't play like his old days. To be honest, the time when he had a good performance was just years ago when he was playing for Barcelona and in the new days when he played for PSG but other than these days he couldn't have a good performance at all and now if you check the pictures of this player you can see Neymar is getting fat.
Neymar was the best player in his country and one the best players in the world but now Al Hilal even removed his name from the list of the Saudi League.


Whatever you say, it is your right regarding Neymar. if Neymar can't play like before, it is clear that he is currently 32 years old and he has also been injured for a very long time. talking about Neymar, he had a golden age when he was with Barcelona. but at PSG, it is not like when he was at Barca. if Neymar doesn't play well, it is natural that he is injured and if I'm not mistaken he only played 3 matches with Al Hilal before suffering a long injury. btw, unfortunately I don't see any photos of Neymar at this time. anyway, if I refer to transfermarkt, Neymar's name is still on the list of Al Hilal players 24/25. besides, based on the same source, transfermarkt, Neymar is scheduled to recover on October 31, 2024. and the rumors circulating, whether true or not he will return to the Al Hilal main team in January.
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October 11, 2024, 10:39:28 AM
Of course it would be a shame for Neymar and Brazil if no club showed interest in Neymar after he left and he remained undrafted for an entire season. I heard some rumors this season that Neymar might return to Barcelona and the current manager of Barcelona might try his best to bring Neymar back to their team but I don't have a clear idea how true these rumors are. Currently Neymar is a player of Al Hilal so for now we are waiting to see him in the field wearing Al Hilal jersey. There are some fans who may not like Neymar and there are some fans who like Neymar. Apart from these, the good should be called good and the bad should be called bad. Neymar is still an important player for Al Hilal and I can say that if he is healthy he will definitely be in the regular XI in Al Hilal jersey.
If you were a sports director or a manager, would you have signed Neymar in this condition? Of course, Neymar is a very gifted player, but nobody signs a player that earns high but is almost spending two seasons on the bench due to injuries. There is no shame in leaving him out of the Brazilian national team and not finding a club. In football players are sometimes forced to retire early due to injuries. Anyway, if he recovers and becomes fit, I believe some clubs will come for him.

I admit that Al Hilal can always achieve success in every season. But one day there will definitely be another team that will thwart Al Hilal from winning the SPL title. For now, Al Nassr, who was expected to beat Al Hilal, has failed, but I am sure that Al Nassr can definitely break Al Hilal dominance. Al Nassr currently has a new coach who I think can take the team to a higher level and I hope that in the meeting between Al Hilal and Al Nassr, Pioli can give his best for Al Nassr.
The dream of most clubs in the Saudi Professional League is to defeat Al Hilal. Their dominance in the Gulf League is making it look non-competitive. Other clubs such as Al Nassr, Al Ittihad, and Al Ahli are also enjoying the financial support of The Public Investment Fund (PIF) and they would have to put in more effort to ensure that a new champion emerges this season.
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October 11, 2024, 10:18:29 AM
In my opinion it is not much compared to last season where Al Hilal did not experience defeat for a whole season and only achieved 3 draws, since last season Al Hilal has indeed appeared impressive with their consistent performance and it seems they will repeat it again this season their unbeaten record is still continuing and no one has stopped them even Al Ittihad who are currently also performing strongly in the SPL have not been able to stop Al Hilal's record I also doubt other clubs including Al Nassr last season this club was always defeated by Al Hilal in many meetings.

Al Hilal has being very consistent since last season and they're the worst nightmare of Al nassr, Al Nassr tried several times but couldn't defeat Al Hilal and they still haven't made any improvements to their teams to be sure that they can defeat them if they meet again. Al Nassr and Al Hilal meets on the 11th of November and both teams have being on an incredible form therefore it's going to be exciting to watch both teams play but Al nassr has to be the underdogs in this game as they haven't scored any win against Al Hilal in their last 5 meetings. Al Hilal is setting at the top of the table with a 100% clean records after 6 games, 6 wins this season.
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October 11, 2024, 10:18:22 AM
No team ever needs a player like Neymar. He is totally not in the good firm and he can't play like his old days. To be honest, the time when he had a good performance was just years ago when he was playing for Barcelona and in the new days when he played for PSG but other than these days he couldn't have a good performance at all and now if you check the pictures of this player you can see Neymar is getting fat.
Neymar was the best player in his country and one the best players in the world but now Al Hilal even removed his name from the list of the Saudi League.

In my opinion, Neymar is still very good. He's still among the top 5 best players in his position in the world. The major problem he has is his chronic injuries. Take the injuries away and no player in Europe is a better winger or better attacking midfielder than Neymar. Right now he's just returning from an ACL injury that kept him away for 11 months, and he won't still be able to play till January. No matter how good a player is, I doubt he is worth it with all those injury crises, considering how much he earns.

To show how good Neymar still is, if he gets back to full fitness he'll walk back straight into the Brazil starting team and will make the team a better team, he's that good. Although, no matter how good he is, I don't see any big European club that's ready to employ Neymar because of his current injury. His ability was never in question.
Neymar was considered one of the best strikers of all time but has spent most of his career on the bench due to injuries. As a result, despite having talent and skills in himself, he has not been able to fully express himself in the world of football. Had he not been sidelined due to injury problems, he might have won the Ballon d'Or and other individual awards by now. When he was healthy, Neymar played well in most of the matches even played an important role in the team's victory.

Football fans are still hopeful that Neymar will be able to perform like before when he returns to football once he recovers. Being out of the field for a long time, his performance may be lacking. He is still undergoing treatment, working to maintain his fitness, and it is not yet certain when he will be able to return to football.
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October 11, 2024, 10:11:13 AM
No team ever needs a player like Neymar. He is totally not in the good firm and he can't play like his old days. To be honest, the time when he had a good performance was just years ago when he was playing for Barcelona and in the new days when he played for PSG but other than these days he couldn't have a good performance at all and now if you check the pictures of this player you can see Neymar is getting fat.
Neymar was the best player in his country and one the best players in the world but now Al Hilal even removed his name from the list of the Saudi League.
Basically, the world of football certainly recognizes that Neymar is indeed a great player at his best. The reason is, in his best performance, Neymar has extraordinary abilities, and Neymar also has a very fast running speed. So it is not surprising to say that Neymar was the best player at that time. However, after Neymar left Barcelona and decided to play at PSG, Neymar's performance at that time did decline slightly. But even so, Neymar still managed to bring success to PSG. However, after several seasons of Neymar playing at PSG, he started to experience frequent injuries, and that's where Neymar's performance started to be less than good. Maybe this is also caused by Neymar's bad lifestyle. The reason is, Neymar often parties and also drinks alcoholic drinks. Even during one of his training sessions with PSG, Neymar was reportedly still half drunk. So, it is natural that Neymar often suffers injuries. Because he is also not optimal in taking care of his own body and also lacks discipline. So Neymar's fate is now a little uncertain, because as we know Neymar has been dropped by Al Hilal to compete in the SPL. But from the news circulating, it is reported that Neymar will only be played by Al Hilal in the Asian Champions League. This is still just a rumor, so there is no clear certainty regarding this matter. But hopefully Neymar can actually appear again with Al Hilal this season in whatever competition it is.
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October 11, 2024, 08:54:05 AM
Neymar belonged to top 5 players, that is right but only right like 3 years ago or a little farther to the past like 5 years ago. Neymar together with Bale, and Hazard were considered as best players in a next generation after Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic but they never won Ballon d'Or. Now Bale and Hazard retired and only Neymar is playing but he is no longer as one of best 5 players. Mbappe, Haaland, Vinicius, Jude, Salah and other players are better than Neymar now.

Haaland and Jude are not wingers, I don't know why they're on this list.
When Neymar is fit and in the pitch he's a better winger than Mbappe and Vinicius. He's even better than Salah, but that would be too much of an argument. Bale and Hazard were never on Neymar's level.

Vinicius is in Brazil, but they still need Neymar to carry them. There's no way Neymar will be fit and they'll bench him ahead of Vini. Now if I get offered Neymar or Vini for my team, I'll choose Vini because he's young and has many more years to play, but right if we say both of them should be fit now and be in the same pitch, Neymar will perform better than every winger you listed.
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October 11, 2024, 08:06:50 AM

Al Hilal is the only team that is unbeaten and can get full points from all the matches they have played, that is a good record and also makes them unbeaten since last season in the Saudi Pro League. Al Hilal is very tough, they are hard to stop, even the team that is expected to beat them can't do much when they have to face them.
Their chances of defending the title are very high, and that is something that is very natural because looking at their appearance, they are the team with the most solid appearance in my opinion. From the back line, midfield, to the front line they can play well. That is the key to their success.
I admit that Al Hilal can always achieve success in every season. But one day there will definitely be another team that will thwart Al Hilal from winning the SPL title. For now, Al Nassr, who was expected to beat Al Hilal, has failed, but I am sure that Al Nassr can definitely break Al Hilal dominance. Al Nassr currently has a new coach who I think can take the team to a higher level and I hope that in the meeting between Al Hilal and Al Nassr, Pioli can give his best for Al Nassr.
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October 11, 2024, 07:39:12 AM

Al Hilal is the only team that is unbeaten and can get full points from all the matches they have played, that is a good record and also makes them unbeaten since last season in the Saudi Pro League. Al Hilal is very tough, they are hard to stop, even the team that is expected to beat them can't do much when they have to face them.
Their chances of defending the title are very high, and that is something that is very natural because looking at their appearance, they are the team with the most solid appearance in my opinion. From the back line, midfield, to the front line they can play well. That is the key to their success.
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October 11, 2024, 04:56:07 AM
In my opinion, Neymar is still very good. He's still among the top 5 best players in his position in the world. The major problem he has is his chronic injuries. Take the injuries away and no player in Europe is a better winger or better attacking midfielder than Neymar.
Neymar belonged to top 5 players, that is right but only right like 3 years ago or a little farther to the past like 5 years ago. Neymar together with Bale, and Hazard were considered as best players in a next generation after Messi, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic but they never won Ballon d'Or. Now Bale and Hazard retired and only Neymar is playing but he is no longer as one of best 5 players. Mbappe, Haaland, Vinicius, Jude, Salah and other players are better than Neymar now.

With big assumption that he has no injury, and his body was not affected by previous injuries, you can award Neymar a Ballon d'Or, but in reality it is impossible.

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Right now he's just returning from an ACL injury that kept him away for 11 months, and he won't still be able to play till January. No matter how good a player is, I doubt he is worth it with all those injury crises, considering how much he earns.
He is in recovery progress but there is uncertainty on when he will be able to play and will he play many matches before his next injuries. With an old player and with very long injury record, Neymar will struggle a lot to come back.
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October 11, 2024, 02:26:36 AM
No team ever needs a player like Neymar. He is totally not in the good firm and he can't play like his old days. To be honest, the time when he had a good performance was just years ago when he was playing for Barcelona and in the new days when he played for PSG but other than these days he couldn't have a good performance at all and now if you check the pictures of this player you can see Neymar is getting fat.
Neymar was the best player in his country and one the best players in the world but now Al Hilal even removed his name from the list of the Saudi League.

In my opinion, Neymar is still very good. He's still among the top 5 best players in his position in the world. The major problem he has is his chronic injuries. Take the injuries away and no player in Europe is a better winger or better attacking midfielder than Neymar. Right now he's just returning from an ACL injury that kept him away for 11 months, and he won't still be able to play till January. No matter how good a player is, I doubt he is worth it with all those injury crises, considering how much he earns.

To show how good Neymar still is, if he gets back to full fitness he'll walk back straight into the Brazil starting team and will make the team a better team, he's that good. Although, no matter how good he is, I don't see any big European club that's ready to employ Neymar because of his current injury. His ability was never in question.
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October 11, 2024, 01:38:32 AM

He's only want to play for Brazil, but intentionally don't want to play for Al Hilal, even he play, he didn't give everything to contribute on the match. I think when he want to move Al Hilal, he already think to use this strategy because he only want the money with the lowest effort.

Even he's injured, but he still actively gambling and promote the brands he partnered with.

Well, it's a bit difficult, he does it all for his country, although the Saudi club is giving him a lot of money and I think that out of gratitude and because he has great ethics he should make more of an effort. Maybe he didn't contribute much because they play against high-level players and the fear of injury is unique. I think that little by little he can relax more.


Brazil quality drops recent years and they have big problems with their academy system in their home land. In many years, Brazil did not produce any world class striker and in latest World Cup tournaments, we can see that lack of a good striker affected their squad performance a lot. Neymar is not a striker and if he comes back to play for Brazil, he won't help them solving this problem.


Maybe, but Ney is like a symbol that can be used by the same team. The good thing about Ney is that he sees football the way Ronaldo , Roberto Carlos , and Dinho do, and it is that particular, traditional Brazilian game , and that is what Brazil has lost.
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October 11, 2024, 01:32:07 AM
I also cannot deny that Al-hilal is not only superior in terms of the quality of their game, but they also have other advantages, such as the mentality of their players who always play and never give up. In fact, they are always able to turn things around in the end. As in the match against Al-Ahli, we know that throughout the first half Al-hilal was 1 goal behind. but in the second half Al-hilal managed to turn things around and make the match theirs. And yes, there is no doubt that their attack line can cover the shortcomings of their back line.
You can't even say that to Al Hilal because if you look at their last 10 match you won't find a single defeat or a draw. Due to which their hard work and success is getting superior, that is why they are winning matches and their record is getting so good.  Many people are like them more and more.They have experience that surprise everyone and there are more things that they use. Now to see if Al Hilal keeps the win if any team beats them.
In my opinion it is not much compared to last season where Al Hilal did not experience defeat for a whole season and only achieved 3 draws, since last season Al Hilal has indeed appeared impressive with their consistent performance and it seems they will repeat it again this season their unbeaten record is still continuing and no one has stopped them even Al Ittihad who are currently also performing strongly in the SPL have not been able to stop Al Hilal's record I also doubt other clubs including Al Nassr last season this club was always defeated by Al Hilal in many meetings.
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October 10, 2024, 10:12:24 PM
No team ever needs a player like Neymar. He is totally not in the good firm and he can't play like his old days. To be honest, the time when he had a good performance was just years ago when he was playing for Barcelona and in the new days when he played for PSG but other than these days he couldn't have a good performance at all and now if you check the pictures of this player you can see Neymar is getting fat.
Neymar was the best player in his country and one the best players in the world but now Al Hilal even removed his name from the list of the Saudi League.
Only very rich clubs in Saudi Arabia with financial support from their government can pay very lucrative salary to Neymar. The player is useless in the last two seasons by getting a serious injury, missing many matches and even now, he is not fully ready for matches with a latest failed medical examination from Al Hilal.

Neymar is earning a lot of money from Al Hilal but he can learn lessons from some Brazilian players like Ronaldino, Dani Alves who broke financially after their retirement. Earning hundreds of million of dollars is good but Neymar must manage his personal finance well, if he does not want to be broken financially like Ronaldinho and Dani Alves, who received financial support from Neymar in their worst times too.
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