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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Surprisingly, these bad results continue even when facing the lowest teams which should be a guarantee for Al Ettifaq to be able to end the previous bad results so in total in eight matches in the Saudi pro league Al Ettifaq has never won once, this is a very bad record.
Just like you who asked why Steven Gerrard wasn't fired, maybe that's what many people are thinking, especially Al Ettifaq fans, who hope that this team can perform well with several well-known names who were also quite good players in their previous team, and in the next three matches this team will still continue to experience bad results because their three opponents are quite good teams, against Al Hilal and Damac it is very possible for them to lose, while against Al Khaleej a draw is probably the best result that Ettifaq can achieve.

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Quote from: klidex on December 28, 2023, 11:02:42 PM

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Luckily I didn't enter the Al-Ettifaq vs Al-Hazm match and if I had said yes, my bet would have been finished from the start. I still can't believe they only drew 1-1 and this is another failure for Steven Gerrard as Al-Ettifaq coach. I think Al-Ettifaq will start to recover in this match because in the last few matches they have never won again and I think this will be the start of their revival.

But unfortunately they couldn't offer this to the fans who came to support him and this result also gave Steven Gerrard a red report and soon his fate would begin to be at stake. It is appropriate for Steven Gerrard to be fired because in fact as a coach he is not good enough and with the squad of European players he currently has he is not able to maximize it. On the other hand, I also heard news that Steven Gerrard wants new European players in January and this is actually not a problem of a lack of European players but it is just Steven Gerrard who cannot manage the squad well.

I already thought that this match would not live up to expectations because Al Ettifaq's consistency really needs to be questioned. We can see that in the last 5 matches Ettifaq has not won at all and has lost 13 points, 13 points is not a small number and this match Ettifaq should be able to won full points because they faced the weakest club in the Saudi Pro League, especially since this match was held at Ettifaq's headquarters, but instead Ettifaq was unable to produce the results that their fans expected.

Steven Gerarrd's position as coach of Al Ettifaq is under threat because he has not been able to give his best, especially as recently Ettifaq has suffered consecutive defeats, of course this makes Steven Gerarrd even more depressed and all Ettifaq fans don't seem to accept his coaching style, even though he has experience in Europe However, Steven Gerarrd does not really control the club he brought because the playing styles of the Saudi League and the European League are of course different.

Steven Gerrard is a famous person and his reputation is obviously in danger while he is having this performance in Al Ettifaq. At the moment when he joined Al Ettifaq, there was much news about this coach since he was a famous and good performing coach in Liverpool but it seems even if you are a good player it doesn't mean that you can also be a good coach and we saw that about Steven Gerrard.
Now in Al Ettifaq, he is about to even get fired from this team because so far even after the money they spent, still, Al Ettifaq still couldn't get food results in this season.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Sincerely, I agree with you. To put it lightly, Gerrard hasnt done a phenomenal job as a coach. The fact that a team with such great players as Henderson and Wijnaldum cant get more than a point against the worst team in the league is beyond comprehension. Having great players isnt enough; how you use them is also important, and Gerrard seems to be missing the. Their talent is being wasted.

Let us talk about Gerrard's plan, or lack thereof. Nine matches and not a single win? In a way, that says volumes. Unfortunately, its not just bad luck; bad management is to blame. He's supposed to bring out the best in his players as a coach, but so far its been a string of letdowns. The club needs to rethink his role because things are going so badly that its not just risking a bad season, its risking the future of the team.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

At the start of the season, Steven Gerrard and his troops at Al-ETtifaq have proven that they are a solid team under his coaching. But then they got worse until now. I don't know what problem happened there. Because Al-ettifaq experienced a fairly rapid decline. Even though at the start of the season they were able to stay in the top 4 for quite a long time. In fact, the quality of their game was on par with PIF's 4 favorite clubs. But in the end they couldn't maintain their performance and became inconsistent until now.

Steven Gerrard seems to be taking the SPL too lightly. And now he has to think harder to be able to restore Al-Ettifaq's best performance and restore its reputation, which has been declining due to the many bad results that Al-Ettifaq has experienced recently.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on December 28, 2023, 06:42:53 PM

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Al Feiha vs Al Hilal

Al Hilal was very strong this season and they were very often to win with big scores at Saudi Pro League and it proven from their statistics during this season that Al Hilal has total 57 goals and only conceded 9 goals and from 5 recent matches Al Hilal has scores 23 goals and gets 4 cleansheet so it's clearly they have good balanced to attack and defense and about their opponent Al feiha this team is not in the good shape because from 6 matches at Saudi Pro League they only get 1 win

If we see from head to head statistics indeed both teams can able to beat each other but this season is totally different because Al Hilal was unstoppable at Saudi Pro League and seems this could be easy match for them

It will be an easy match for Al Hilal. Just look at the stats of the last 4 matches of Al Feiha, they got all the loses in every match. It seems impossible that Al Feiha to steal points from Al Hilal. Al Hilal stats looks too perfect, they never got a lose. There is no team that can win against Al Hilal, even Al Nassr got a defeat against Al Hilal.

Al Hilal team has won the last five matches consecutively as their performance has been very good. But if we compare Al Fayha team with Al Hillal then definitely Al Fayha team is very weak.The most people bet on Al Hilal team, despite the absence of Neymar this season, Al-Hilal team is in strong form.

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Quote from: rendravolt on December 28, 2023, 02:18:03 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Luckily I didn't enter the Al-Ettifaq vs Al-Hazm match and if I had said yes, my bet would have been finished from the start. I still can't believe they only drew 1-1 and this is another failure for Steven Gerrard as Al-Ettifaq coach. I think Al-Ettifaq will start to recover in this match because in the last few matches they have never won again and I think this will be the start of their revival.

But unfortunately they couldn't offer this to the fans who came to support him and this result also gave Steven Gerrard a red report and soon his fate would begin to be at stake. It is appropriate for Steven Gerrard to be fired because in fact as a coach he is not good enough and with the squad of European players he currently has he is not able to maximize it. On the other hand, I also heard news that Steven Gerrard wants new European players in January and this is actually not a problem of a lack of European players but it is just Steven Gerrard who cannot manage the squad well.

I already thought that this match would not live up to expectations because Al Ettifaq's consistency really needs to be questioned. We can see that in the last 5 matches Ettifaq has not won at all and has lost 13 points, 13 points is not a small number and this match Ettifaq should be able to won full points because they faced the weakest club in the Saudi Pro League, especially since this match was held at Ettifaq's headquarters, but instead Ettifaq was unable to produce the results that their fans expected.

Steven Gerarrd's position as coach of Al Ettifaq is under threat because he has not been able to give his best, especially as recently Ettifaq has suffered consecutive defeats, of course this makes Steven Gerarrd even more depressed and all Ettifaq fans don't seem to accept his coaching style, even though he has experience in Europe However, Steven Gerarrd does not really control the club he brought because the playing styles of the Saudi League and the European League are of course different.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 28, 2023, 04:34:34 PM

Since Al Hilal hired Neymar they couldn't use this player a lot and he was mostly injured.
Even during the summer when Neyamr joined Al Hilal he was injured and couldn't help the team, that's why they are even about to see another player and spend even more money on another player to take his place.
However, even without Neymar Al Hilal has perfect performance, they are currently at the top of the table with a huge gap.
They want now to hire Junya Ito the Japanese player of Reims, but he is still under contract with his team until 2026.

They can break the contract and pay fee if they really want to have the player. Junya Ito is a very talented player from Japan and we already see what Kaoru Mitoma can do in Premier League with Brighton. Junya Ito also shown himself well with his national team in World Cup 2022 and at lower levels like in Saudi Professional League, I don't think he will get big problems to play in Saudi Arabia.

He also had good experience with Asian football by playing for Japanese clubs and his national team many years. Al Hilal will have to convince the player and it is most important to make this transfer happens. Maybe Junya does not want money but want to achieve something for his career. Chance for him to move to bigger clubs in Europe looks not too big so if he decides to leave Europe and joins Saudi Professional League, with a biggest club there, it's not bad decision.

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 28, 2023, 06:25:54 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Just like the name Wayne Rooney, you'll have to understand that he is not a good coach and has nothing much to offer. The club he's managing should access the situation and do something better.
Take a look back at how he did with Aston Villa, you cannot tell me he is a good tactician. Some of these legends are stubborn. Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are all flops, they should work with sound coaches to get experience. Take a good look at Mikel Arteta, he worked with Pep Guardiola and learnt a lot.

Jordan Henderson and Wijnaldum are all dead woods. Liverpool already made good use of the energy they have. Let's hope he brings in improvements otherwise, Crap!!

Steven Gerrard seems to have a lot to learn from Arteta because so far he is not skilled enough in formulating tactics to bring Al ettifaq to victory. Let's say that when Gerrard was with Aston Villa, it might have been quite difficult for him because he was competing in building a team in the world's best league. But now he is coaching a team in an easy league, but Gerrard still hasn't succeeded in bringing progress to the team he coaches.

Well, maybe Gerrard lacks experience and of course that is quite appropriate for his coaching status because he really failed to utilize the quality of his players. Indeed, Henderson has experienced a setback in his performance, but I think he can help the team with his experience and it's just that the coach this season has not been able to organize a good strategy to lead them to victory.

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Quote from: bering on December 28, 2023, 02:54:02 AM

Al Feiha vs Al Hilal

Al Hilal was very strong this season and they were very often to win with big scores at Saudi Pro League and it proven from their statistics during this season that Al Hilal has total 57 goals and only conceded 9 goals and from 5 recent matches Al Hilal has scores 23 goals and gets 4 cleansheet so it's clearly they have good balanced to attack and defense and about their opponent Al feiha this team is not in the good shape because from 6 matches at Saudi Pro League they only get 1 win

If we see from head to head statistics indeed both teams can able to beat each other but this season is totally different because Al Hilal was unstoppable at Saudi Pro League and seems this could be easy match for them

It will be an easy match for Al Hilal. Just look at the stats of the last 4 matches of Al Feiha, they got all the loses in every match. It seems impossible that Al Feiha to steal points from Al Hilal. Al Hilal stats looks too perfect, they never got a lose. There is no team that can win against Al Hilal, even Al Nassr got a defeat against Al Hilal.

The number of goals made by Al Hilal is very impressive. It is surely because Al Hilal has Aleksandar Mitrovic who played very productive in scoring. He already scored 16 goals in SPL and 5 goals in ACL. It is a great season for Aleksandar Mitrovic, he is competing for the top scorer status with Ronaldo now. Wink

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Saudis are once again trying to hire another player from the top European teams and this time they target Napoli.
Al-Shabab is trying to hire Matteo Politano and they sent an offer for this Italian player of Napoli to buy this player during the winter but Matteo Politano rejected the offer.
Matteo Politano couldn't have a good performance recently, however during the time when Luciano Spalletti was working in Napoli he had an effective role in this team.
Now it seems he still hopes to get back into good form and that's why he rejected an offer from Al-Shabab.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Just like the name Wayne Rooney, you'll have to understand that he is not a good coach and has nothing much to offer. The club he's managing should access the situation and do something better.
Take a look back at how he did with Aston Villa, you cannot tell me he is a good tactician. Some of these legends are stubborn. Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard and Frank Lampard are all flops, they should work with sound coaches to get experience. Take a good look at Mikel Arteta, he worked with Pep Guardiola and learnt a lot.

Jordan Henderson and Wijnaldum are all dead woods. Liverpool already made good use of the energy they have. Let's hope he brings in improvements otherwise, Crap!!

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on December 28, 2023, 04:34:34 PM

Since Al Hilal hired Neymar they couldn't use this player a lot and he was mostly injured.
Even during the summer when Neyamr joined Al Hilal he was injured and couldn't help the team, that's why they are even about to see another player and spend even more money on another player to take his place.
However, even without Neymar Al Hilal has perfect performance, they are currently at the top of the table with a huge gap.
They want now to hire Junya Ito the Japanese player of Reims, but he is still under contract with his team until 2026.

There is no doubt about their strength and performance even they lost Neymar Jr due to injury and their current form is clearly showing they don't need any new player but for the backup they are jumping for this Japan player because injury with any player can create problems for them so they don't want to take any risk and want to have good player into their squad for the rest of the season.
Junya Ito is currently under contract of Riems which is in middle of the Ligue 1 their performance is good, and they can do much better in coming days but if they have good offer then surely they can go ahead with this move because he is going to stay until end of 2026 as he has 3 years contract with expendable for more seasons depend on his performance.

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Quote from: bitvalak on December 28, 2023, 04:52:08 PM

Quote from: Volgastallion on December 27, 2023, 10:37:32 AM

So again Cristiano Ronaldo scoring by two penalties and becoming the top goal scorer of the year, from one side amazing to se him still in the high performance, but in the other hand i can see a ton of memes of him and the penalty love with him.

About the yesterday game was a really good one for Al Nassr, it was not a easy one and they do all to make it look easy.

Unfortunately, pure goals and penalties are both counted as valid goals and add to Cristiano Ronaldo's total goals.
Al Nassr created many opportunities and resulted in goals, which means they are now able to reduce the goal difference with the top of the standings.
Currently Al Hilal has 50 points from 18 matches, and Al Nassr has 43 points from 18 matches. Only 7 matches apart, this is still very possible to achieve.

Today Al Hilal will compete against Al Feiha ranked 11th in the standings. Of course, Al Hilal is favored to win in order to maintain the point difference until the end of the season.

I guess different people have a different opinion about this penalty stuff and I know that someone needs strong nerves to score all those penalties, but it is kind of deflective if the goal scorer of the year scores more than one third of his goals from the penalty spot. It is part of the game, but I think if in the end there are two guys competing with each other for the top scorer award, I respect the one more with less or no penalties. However, as it looks at the moment, several of the players being at the top of the list also have a lot of goals scored by penalties.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 27, 2023, 10:37:32 AM

So again Cristiano Ronaldo scoring by two penalties and becoming the top goal scorer of the year, from one side amazing to se him still in the high performance, but in the other hand i can see a ton of memes of him and the penalty love with him.

About the yesterday game was a really good one for Al Nassr, it was not a easy one and they do all to make it look easy.

Unfortunately, pure goals and penalties are both counted as valid goals and add to Cristiano Ronaldo's total goals.
Al Nassr created many opportunities and resulted in goals, which means they are now able to reduce the goal difference with the top of the standings.
Currently Al Hilal has 50 points from 18 matches, and Al Nassr has 43 points from 18 matches. Only 7 matches apart, this is still very possible to achieve.

Today Al Hilal will compete against Al Feiha ranked 11th in the standings. Of course, Al Hilal is favored to win in order to maintain the point difference until the end of the season.

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Since Al Hilal hired Neymar they couldn't use this player a lot and he was mostly injured.
Even during the summer when Neyamr joined Al Hilal he was injured and couldn't help the team, that's why they are even about to see another player and spend even more money on another player to take his place.
However, even without Neymar Al Hilal has perfect performance, they are currently at the top of the table with a huge gap.
They want now to hire Junya Ito the Japanese player of Reims, but he is still under contract with his team until 2026.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

A club can only survived when there's presence of unity and there's definitely experience players that can enchanced the capacity of a club. Quality players in the club doesn't spike the reason that a club will do better, rather we should examine how a club can be able to perform, rather than the presence of overrated actions. Steven Gerrard have poor stats but it had become very obvious because there's certainly nothing improving about the club. Steven Gerrard knows how to manage his club and have become one of the young managers to lead his club to glory.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

The results of this team were bad after a good start. I don't know if Steven Gerrard will remain in charge or not but definitely this club has to improve its gameplay and tactics but also recruit more players to be able to stay in top. Steven Gerrard himself asked the club administrator to bring good players to get positive results. There is rumours about Firmino wanting to leave Al-Ahli and join his old colleagues in Al-Ettifaq. Nothing clear until now in this club but it appears that the owners of the club will wait to see the club's results in January before taking actions.

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Quote from: jeha2015 on December 28, 2023, 02:50:41 PM

Steven Gerard is really bad as a coach even though they at Al-Ettifaq have classy players, there are Henderson and Georginio Wijnaldum players and they have both been at Liverpool, plus Higg, Dembele and Gray. but Steven Gerard could not lift al-Ettifaq to be able to compete for the SPL championship, instead now they have to settle for being in eighth place in the SPL.

What's worse is that al-Ettifaq has never won in the last eight matches, of course this is a failure for Steven Gerard as a coach. I don't know why Al-Ettifaq still keeps him as coach. Do they still have hope in Steven Gerard? Or maybe Steven Gerard's failure was due to language problems, because every time he gave directions he always used a translator?

It seems that it is true that there has not been a big change in Al Ettihaq performance under the guidance of Steven Gerrard, where he was said to have failed in training Al Ettifaq. Because so far they have been easily beaten by other teams even though they have several top players who they bought in the summer transfer window.
I think Al Ettifaq management will give Steven Gerrard time until the end of this season because if Gerrard can't bring about changes this season then he might be fired at the end of the season. Indeed, in history as a player, Gerrard was quite successful, but in coaching he really couldn't show any change for the team he coached, even though the team had star players in their squad.

Al Ettifaq so far they have only recorded 6 win this season and of course this is not a good record considering they have high quality players in their squad. I think their weakness is their defense because so far I see they have conceded a lot of goals so they have to improve their defense by bringing in top players in the winter transfer window.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

That's sucky, mate. What's wrong with Steve Gerard? I don't understand why he didn't even win a single match in Al-Ettifaq. Steve Gerard didn't win the game in nine matches. The club are didn't win the match from 9 matches he only did 4 defeated and 5 draws. Despite Steve Gerard having a lot of quality players like Johan Henderson and Georginio Wijnaldum, Steven Gerard has won zero matches in his recent 9 matches. Literally, this is a very poor performance for a coach even though he has top-class players who can play a better game for him according to his tactics. Steven Gerard's performance has been very poor in some matches, due to which the team also showed weakness and did not win a single match out of 9 matches, drawing some and losing some.

I believed that the Saudi Arabian side is a coach only for the sake of money, or maybe just as Steven Gerard was good as a player in a career, so maybe he will be at the same level as a coach, but this is wrong. A player's career plays on a separate mentality, despite the fact that as a coach, separate mental strength is required. So Steve Gerard has been a good player but cannot perform as a good coach, for that he needs efforts and hard work.

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Quote from: Volgastallion on December 28, 2023, 12:41:23 PM

So Steven Gerard only reaching1 point against the last team and the worst one of the league? Plus in home condition?. I dont really know why they dont expell him from the charge of main coach.

They have 4 super higg level players, Jordan Henderson, Wijnaldum, Dembele, and Gray, you cant do this bad with that names.

Steven Gerard is really bad as a coach even though they at Al-Ettifaq have classy players, there are Henderson and Georginio Wijnaldum players and they have both been at Liverpool, plus Higg, Dembele and Gray. but Steven Gerard could not lift al-Ettifaq to be able to compete for the SPL championship, instead now they have to settle for being in eighth place in the SPL.

What's worse is that al-Ettifaq has never won in the last eight matches, of course this is a failure for Steven Gerard as a coach. I don't know why Al-Ettifaq still keeps him as coach. Do they still have hope in Steven Gerard? Or maybe Steven Gerard's failure was due to language problems, because every time he gave directions he always used a translator?

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