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September 10, 2023, 03:48:57 PM
I am stilll convinced that the difference players like Ronaldo or Benzema are making is not that big. People tend to forget that these guys are old already and of course they can contribute to the game and make the team a bit better, but it is not like Ronaldo goes to a club and then out of a sudden that club never loses a game again. It is still the team and not a one man show.

Haha you are right, what Ronaldo and other European players have is skill, experience and mentally this combination is very necessary in the game but in terms of stamina and speed local players can still be relied on that's why Al-Taawon was able to take the place in 2nd place. We must remember that Ronaldo is currently 38 years old this is not a normal age as a professional player and there must be an expiration period  Cheesy but when it comes to Neymar, he still has it all his age still allows him to compete.
There is obviously what you are missing and I think I will be able to explain it to you. If you call the local guys who are not experienced but young to the Champions League. They will not even be able to draw any matches h. They will lose all the matches. But if you call the old guys like Ronaldo and Benzema to the Champions League, they will likely win the Champions League. It is not that these guys are so much tired, they still go to gym and they still make good runs. Then they have the experience and skills. In fact, they even cover more kilometres than the local boys. They have the zeal and enthusiasm and passion more than the rest.
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September 10, 2023, 03:39:16 PM
We have seen Ronaldo for nearly a year now, and he hasn't made all that much difference in the club, sure he scores some, but if you move all the goals he scored against bottom feeding teams and the penalties, the amount of goals he scored against the other teams in the top 5 is nothing that important, it's very low. This is why we should not expect them to suddenly get great and win the title all because they got one player.

Haaland didn't score in important games for last season but he was still able to win the treble with Manchester city because of other players contributions. We can't removed the penalty that Ronaldo scored because scoring penalty isn't an easy thing to do. If it was easy then the last player that Ronaldo gave the penalties to play in the last Al Nassr game should have scored the penalty because it is easy. We shouldn't be downgrading penalty or the hattrick Ronaldo is scoring against smaller teams. He is no longer in his prime to be scoring all the crazy goals he was scoring while he was still playing in Europe. Lets not also forget that the teammates that he's playing with also matter and at Al Nassr he's playing with one of the worst set of footballers he has ever played with

Yes, one way for the Saudi Pro League to become more popular is to consistently recruit great and famous players who previously played in Europe. Because if they can be consistent in this way, then of course the Saudi Pro League will remain popular even if Ronaldo is no longer there.

Getting famous players might be a waste of money because many of them won't live up to the expectations they were signed for, not everyone is Ronaldo that has a determination to always want to be the best thereby putting on incredible performance whenever he has the spotlight to do so. Saudi Professional League has to improve their league locally so they can attract players to play in the league because of its competitiveness and not just because of the high pay. If they keep going after famous players then this players will only want to use the Saudi Arabia league as a retirement ground. At the beginning they can make the league attractive with signing famous players but they shoudn't continue with this strategy for a very long time.
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September 10, 2023, 11:56:19 AM
I am stilll convinced that the difference players like Ronaldo or Benzema are making is not that big. People tend to forget that these guys are old already and of course they can contribute to the game and make the team a bit better, but it is not like Ronaldo goes to a club and then out of a sudden that club never loses a game again. It is still the team and not a one man show.
This is incredibly true and unfortunately not really realized all that much. Those guys are amazing and they had a phenomenal career and they definitely deserve all the praise they get, but that doesn't mean that we are going to end up with them making a big difference on this team at this age.

We have seen Ronaldo for nearly a year now, and he hasn't made all that much difference in the club, sure he scores some, but if you move all the goals he scored against bottom feeding teams and the penalties, the amount of goals he scored against the other teams in the top 5 is nothing that important, it's very low. This is why we should not expect them to suddenly get great and win the title all because they got one player.
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September 10, 2023, 11:50:21 AM


The opening match this week will pit Al-Akhdoud against Al-Ittihad and this will be the first meeting between the two. I don't remember which team got promotion to the Saudi league this season apart from Al-Ahli and if Al-Akhdoud is the promoted team this season then they will face a tough challenge because they have to face the defending champions of the Saudi league last season. Currently Al-Akhdoud is in 13th position with 4 points from 5 matches and Al-Ittihad is in 3rd position which is only 1 point behind Al-Hilal. Of course Benzema and his friends have to get full points this time to unseat Al-Hilal and I think this will be an easy match. If you look at the odds, Al-Ittihad is very favored to win with odds @1.16, but I don't hesitate to bet with a handicap (-1.5) so I can get better odds @1.54.
Al-Okhdood Club does not have a superstar player like Ittihad, it should be an easy win for Ittihad, with many scores possible there Sir. Also Ittihad no doubt can scored a lot considering the attackers of this team are very hungry, they will get it I guess maybe they will make a party goal in that match. By the way, I already bet in this match on over 1.75 goals at half time. The odds are very tempting Wink although too risky, because there are no guarantees anyway.
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September 10, 2023, 10:30:36 AM
I have consistently anticipated Mohamed Salah's potential move to the Arab league, as it appears that Al Ittihad is quite keen on acquiring this Muslim player. We are aware that Salah practices the Islamic faith, and my hope is that by joining the Saudi Pro League, he can find a more serene playing environment and garner appreciation from the Muslim community in the Arab world.
They will return to knock Liverpool doors in a next transfer season. When Salah is older, one or two more years, their chance will become bigger. In addition, they can have belief that if they give Liverpool enough time to use money from Salah transfer to buy other players as replacement for Salah and as improvements for other positions in their squad, Liverpool will let Salah go.

With his religion, Salah will not have issue to live and play in Saudi Arabia. He will adapt to the nation very well like Karim Benzema and feel more comfortable than other players from Europe who are not Muslims.
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September 10, 2023, 10:29:15 AM
I am stilll convinced that the difference players like Ronaldo or Benzema are making is not that big. People tend to forget that these guys are old already and of course they can contribute to the game and make the team a bit better, but it is not like Ronaldo goes to a club and then out of a sudden that club never loses a game again. It is still the team and not a one man show.

Haha you are right, what Ronaldo and other European players have is skill, experience and mentally this combination is very necessary in the game but in terms of stamina and speed local players can still be relied on that's why Al-Taawon was able to take the place in 2nd place. We must remember that Ronaldo is currently 38 years old this is not a normal age as a professional player and there must be an expiration period  Cheesy but when it comes to Neymar, he still has it all his age still allows him to compete.
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September 10, 2023, 10:28:31 AM

I am intrigued by what the Saudi Pro League has planned for the future if FIFA will be granted Saudi Arabia permission to host the 2030 World Cup. I hope that this will be forever. We do know saudi were mostly recruiting old players.
The things may change after saudi will able to host 2030 world cup. So many people putting their eyes on saudi regularly after so many superstars were coming to this league.


The Saudi Pro League is in good shape because it is becoming more competitive, as we can see, and as Neymar stated, while it is not as competitive as some European leagues, if all teams consider doing what others did, the league will become more interesting to watch and they will gain more recognition in football.

Young players may begin to contemplate going to the Saudi Pro League if their performances are consistent, and there may come a day when all of these aging players will no longer be regarded if teams begin to bring young players from Europe.
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September 10, 2023, 10:22:53 AM
because they really throw a lot of money easily to be able to recruit famous players.
I have consistently anticipated Mohamed Salah's potential move to the Arab league, as it appears that Al Ittihad is quite keen on acquiring this Muslim player. We are aware that Salah practices the Islamic faith, and my hope is that by joining the Saudi Pro League, he can find a more serene playing environment and garner appreciation from the Muslim community in the Arab world.

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So basically, in this season also the Saudi Pro League has become popular, but it seems that they are still not satisfied until here and will continue to make major developments from time to time.
In terms of the Arab League's popularity, I believe it can be likened to the current state of Ligue 1 in France. Because Arab teams do not have a presence in the Champions League, their popularity hasn't quite reached a prominent position at the moment. However, it's worth noting that Neymar concurs that the Arab League holds greater allure compared to Ligue 1.
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September 10, 2023, 10:22:29 AM
But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.

Right now they are in the process of doing so. Their target is long-term. They wanted to make the Arabic name not only famous for Oil. They realized the oil could run out soon. In addition, the proposal to host the world cup is also a strong reason. They put themselves forward to host the 2030 World Cup if I'm not mistaken. With the arrival of star players, the hope is that they will continue to be consistent with an exciting league. In addition, there are always changes in every transfer market in every season. Evidently the Arab League is not an easy league for players from Europe.
In my opinion, when Saudi Pro League clubs bring in quality players, of course there is a long-term goal for Saudi Arabia, especially Saudi Pro League football. Apart from that, it will also be a motivation for the younger generation to continue to develop and produce talented players in each club's football academy. This may be related to Saudi Arabia's goal of hosting the world cup. Apart from wanting to advance the League to make it more popular, of course this is also for profit. Now the Saudi Pro League is officially broadcast in 140 countries and revenue from broadcast rights has increased by 650%. The Saudi Pro League also sent 4 club representatives to the Asian Champions League.
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September 10, 2023, 10:08:44 AM
But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.

Right now they are in the process of doing so. Their target is long-term. They wanted to make the Arabic name not only famous for Oil. They realized the oil could run out soon. In addition, the proposal to host the world cup is also a strong reason. They put themselves forward to host the 2030 World Cup if I'm not mistaken. With the arrival of star players, the hope is that they will continue to be consistent with an exciting league. In addition, there are always changes in every transfer market in every season. Evidently the Arab League is not an easy league for players from Europe.

Yes, one way for the Saudi Pro League to become more popular is to consistently recruit great and famous players who previously played in Europe. Because if they can be consistent in this way, then of course the Saudi Pro League will remain popular even if Ronaldo is no longer there. But indeed, the changes made by the Saudi Pro League are crazy, because they really throw a lot of money easily to be able to recruit famous players. So basically, in this season also the Saudi Pro League has become popular, but it seems that they are still not satisfied until here and will continue to make major developments from time to time.
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September 10, 2023, 10:02:07 AM


The opening match this week will pit Al-Akhdoud against Al-Ittihad and this will be the first meeting between the two. I don't remember which team got promotion to the Saudi league this season apart from Al-Ahli and if Al-Akhdoud is the promoted team this season then they will face a tough challenge because they have to face the defending champions of the Saudi league last season. Currently Al-Akhdoud is in 13th position with 4 points from 5 matches and Al-Ittihad is in 3rd position which is only 1 point behind Al-Hilal. Of course Benzema and his friends have to get full points this time to unseat Al-Hilal and I think this will be an easy match. If you look at the odds, Al-Ittihad is very favored to win with odds @1.16, but I don't hesitate to bet with a handicap (-1.5) so I can get better odds @1.54.
It is clear who will be the winner in this match and I think even though Al-Ittihad is playing away against Al-Akhdoud, this will be an opportunity to get additional points for Al-Ittihad to catch up on points with Al-Taawon and Al-Hilal.
I will be more confident if this club will win the upcoming match because Benzema as a player who can be relied on for now can provide a greater chance of winning and will not let Al-Akhdoud win in this match and another thing Benzema has full support from other players from Al-Ittihad which will provide greater strength and high enthusiasm for Benzema.
Betting on this match choosing a handicap @-1.5 is very good, but if you are just trying your luck choosing the option @-1.75 with Odds @1.7 is also quite good.
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September 10, 2023, 10:02:03 AM
Agree, who would have thought that Al Taawon would be able to have such good results. Because previously, only teams that made mega transfers were projected to dominate the Saudi Pro League, but in reality this was not the case at all. After all, Al Taawon also previously managed to beat Al Nassr with a good score of 0-2 and yeah, of course Al Taawon is not a very weak team. Although indeed, in the next match Al Taawon will play away against Al Ahli but yes, there is no definite guarantee for Al Ahli to be able to beat Al Taawon at this moment.

I am stilll convinced that the difference players like Ronaldo or Benzema are making is not that big. People tend to forget that these guys are old already and of course they can contribute to the game and make the team a bit better, but it is not like Ronaldo goes to a club and then out of a sudden that club never loses a game again. It is still the team and not a one man show.
The fact that a team has a world class players in their midst doesn't guarantee them to be 100% successful in a season, for instance PSG had world class players in their team that capable of delivering them the Champions league but they couldn't perform better in the tournament, having those plsyers only gave them an advantage to perform better and also scare their opponents based on the players influence and if Al-Nassr has performed better than Al Taawoun maybe they would had won the match.
 However age would always tell on players no matter how good or talented they're and CR7 is not very strong and vibrant as he used to be when he played for Man United and Realmadrid at a younger age, but anyways the lose against Al Taawoun doesn't write them off, Al-Nassr are still very stronger contenders this season.
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September 10, 2023, 09:43:53 AM

I refrain myself from taking a bet on the match between taawoun and ahli. I prefer to take BTTS rather than picked a team that would be winning the game.
Al taawound could not be underrated at this moment. It's as strong as al hilal.

I like the BTTS bets as well and I guess this is a good game to go for that bet. Al-Ahli is anything but a safe bet as the moment. The loss against Al-Fateh was quite surprising although it doesn't mean too much so far.

I am now looking forward to the time after the break as I am curious whether Ronaldo & co can quickly catch up with the top teams of the table. No more failures allowed for now, but since they have been on fire recently I think they'll at least stay in reach.

Agree, who would have thought that Al Taawon would be able to have such good results. Because previously, only teams that made mega transfers were projected to dominate the Saudi Pro League, but in reality this was not the case at all. After all, Al Taawon also previously managed to beat Al Nassr with a good score of 0-2 and yeah, of course Al Taawon is not a very weak team. Although indeed, in the next match Al Taawon will play away against Al Ahli but yes, there is no definite guarantee for Al Ahli to be able to beat Al Taawon at this moment.

I am stilll convinced that the difference players like Ronaldo or Benzema are making is not that big. People tend to forget that these guys are old already and of course they can contribute to the game and make the team a bit better, but it is not like Ronaldo goes to a club and then out of a sudden that club never loses a game again. It is still the team and not a one man show.
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September 10, 2023, 09:25:20 AM
For the fact that we know that Neymar is an injury player does not mean that he does not have enough time to play. When Neymar was in Barcelona, he played a lot of matches, even when he was in PSG. He played a lot of matches and he even plays good matches of Brazil's national team unless for few occasions that he will be injured before the tournament finishes and most time he will return to play the final stages of the tournament. He cannot be a liability to his new club. He will have time to play, also the competition in the Arabia Pro League is not much and besides from the sales of jersy of Naymer, the club can still make a lot of money.
Neymar is never been having ideal situation in PSG because most of the time he faces injuries which hurt him badly and things are mostly going to be here as we have PSG but with this all we need to check few other things are also as here in Saudi Arab conditions are never been easy for these players hot weather and few other things surely going to have impact on their body and performance as well.
Neymar was often criticized negatively by PSG supporters because of his poor performance in PSG. But in this case I would say that not only Neymar but also Messi doesn't get the appreciation he deserves. Due to which both have left the club.

European players have to face a little problem in Arab conditions because of the wide variation in weather. But they are performing very well there, like Ronaldo, he is in form. Moreover, the others who have come also adapted there very well. Saudi Clubs are providing various advantages to the players more then they deserve.
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September 10, 2023, 09:15:33 AM
But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.

Right now they are in the process of doing so. Their target is long-term. They wanted to make the Arabic name not only famous for Oil. They realized the oil could run out soon. In addition, the proposal to host the world cup is also a strong reason. They put themselves forward to host the 2030 World Cup if I'm not mistaken. With the arrival of star players, the hope is that they will continue to be consistent with an exciting league. In addition, there are always changes in every transfer market in every season. Evidently the Arab League is not an easy league for players from Europe.

Yes, that is indeed the reason why Saudi chose to compete with the bigger ones in the competition right now because they know that sooner or later, they won't be that rich anymore to afford a humungous offer to whatever player they want. It might take long, yes because oil are still needed around the globe but it's already a fact that some time soon, it won't be that easy to acquire such.

Anyway, back to the topic. I know that SPL will eventually do it because they already started their move years ago and those same move are the reason why they are on the football map right now. Sooner or later, they will be much bigger and competitive, and can produce strong players of their own, locally.
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September 10, 2023, 09:07:05 AM
But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.
Right now they are in the process of doing so. Their target is long-term. They wanted to make the Arabic name not only famous for Oil. They realized the oil could run out soon. In addition, the proposal to host the world cup is also a strong reason. They put themselves forward to host the 2030 World Cup if I'm not mistaken. With the arrival of star players, the hope is that they will continue to be consistent with an exciting league. In addition, there are always changes in every transfer market in every season. Evidently the Arab League is not an easy league for players from Europe.

The Saudi government is allocating a lot of money to develop their league. Spending money is not difficult for them. Right now their goal is to inform the world about Saudi Arabia, to inform about Saudi Arabian football. And this is the goal they are moving towards. As far as I know Ronaldo has the most followers on social media. This is why Saudi Arabia was very interested in taking Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia. However, Saudi Arabia is keen to host the 2030 World Cup. And maybe before that they want to make the Saudi League more popular.

Hosting 2030 world cup has become the main target by saudi arabia. My intention was to convey that the country was prepared to allocate a significant amount of funds to achieve that target. I don't even think saudi will have ambition to spend a lot of money without getting paid off by achieving its target.
I hope FIFA will be choosing saudi as a country to host 2030 world cup. Saudi was pushing this caused by it will be also bring numerous investors to the country.
I saw that some western brand has been starting to make cooperation with some saudi clubs as the impact from recruiting so many great players with many fans. I must be honest if what already invested by saudi need long time to be paid off.

Saudi was just trying to take some advantages at the same time. It's a smart idea to spend a lot of money in football.
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September 10, 2023, 09:01:01 AM
The Saudi government is allocating a lot of money to develop their league. Spending money is not difficult for them. Right now their goal is to inform the world about Saudi Arabia, to inform about Saudi Arabian football. And this is the goal they are moving towards. As far as I know Ronaldo has the most followers on social media. This is why Saudi Arabia was very interested in taking Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia. However, Saudi Arabia is keen to host the 2030 World Cup. And maybe before that they want to make the Saudi League more popular.
Saudi Arabia government are spending lot of money through PIF to boost Saudi Professional League. They give four biggest clubs a lot of money to buy star players from Europe and give those players very high salary as well as great privileges.

Ronaldo is like their league brand ambassador but after that, they continued to buy Benzema who just won Ballon d'Or two seasons ago. Ronaldo and Benzema decisions to join Saudi Professional League convinced more star players from Europe to move to Saudi Arabia. It is part of their plan to build up a stronger league that is a foundation for their national team. Aiming at World Cup 2030 with this ambitious plan looks good and at least Saudi Arabia has a stronger national team than Quatar. To prepare for World Cup 2022, Quatar had a long plan for their youth players but even so they could not achieve good results in World Cup 2022.
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September 10, 2023, 07:18:06 AM

Ronaldo's performance dropped in Manchester United, I don?t really know the cause, but I was just thinking it might be due to his age because Ronaldo wasted lots of opportunities when he was in Manchester United. I also blamed him in some matches then, but I don?t know why you said it was not good for Ronaldo to continue his career in Europe, maybe you have other reasons for saying that.

I was reflecting on the fact that many players are migrating to Arabia due to the issue of high salaries. I hypothesized that Arabia wants to force its way into modern international football. however I don`t understand how.
Cristiano Ronaldo has certainly cleared this practice, however I remain a little sceptical.

I don`t see a real economic return, do they expect it? managing a team is always a losing business

buying so many talents doesn`t guarantee you a certain victory, see PSG. maybe they just want to make an otherwise flat and boring championship interesting and fun.
Anyway is a good way for talent reborn.
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September 10, 2023, 05:02:50 AM
But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.
Right now they are in the process of doing so. Their target is long-term. They wanted to make the Arabic name not only famous for Oil. They realized the oil could run out soon. In addition, the proposal to host the world cup is also a strong reason. They put themselves forward to host the 2030 World Cup if I'm not mistaken. With the arrival of star players, the hope is that they will continue to be consistent with an exciting league. In addition, there are always changes in every transfer market in every season. Evidently the Arab League is not an easy league for players from Europe.

The Saudi government is allocating a lot of money to develop their league. Spending money is not difficult for them. Right now their goal is to inform the world about Saudi Arabia, to inform about Saudi Arabian football. And this is the goal they are moving towards. As far as I know Ronaldo has the most followers on social media. This is why Saudi Arabia was very interested in taking Ronaldo to Saudi Arabia. However, Saudi Arabia is keen to host the 2030 World Cup. And maybe before that they want to make the Saudi League more popular.
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September 10, 2023, 04:00:22 AM
For the fact that we know that Neymar is an injury player does not mean that he does not have enough time to play. When Neymar was in Barcelona, he played a lot of matches, even when he was in PSG. He played a lot of matches and he even plays good matches of Brazil's national team unless for few occasions that he will be injured before the tournament finishes and most time he will return to play the final stages of the tournament. He cannot be a liability to his new club. He will have time to play, also the competition in the Arabia Pro League is not much and besides from the sales of jersy of Naymer, the club can still make a lot of money.
Neymar is never been having ideal situation in PSG because most of the time he faces injuries which hurt him badly and things are mostly going to be here as we have PSG but with this all we need to check few other things are also as here in Saudi Arab conditions are never been easy for these players hot weather and few other things surely going to have impact on their body and performance as well.
Here Neymar's entrance is just for the media coverage and having good impact in South American market as well because if they have Messi then surely it's going to be better for them but after his rejection they bring another big name no doubt he will give time to league and also try his best for good performance which is main target but still not many expectations because of his history.
We knew very little about the Saudi League even last year. We didn't talk much about this league. But this year we all know more or less about the Saudi League. Also keep track of the matches. Saudi Arabia is planning long-term. Gradually they will popularize the Saudi League.

I am intrigued by what the Saudi Pro League has planned for the future if FIFA will be granted Saudi Arabia permission to host the 2030 World Cup. I hope that this will be forever. We do know saudi were mostly recruiting old players.
The things may change after saudi will able to host 2030 world cup. So many people putting their eyes on saudi regularly after so many superstars were coming to this league.

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