Topic: Saudia Arabia helped 9/11 hijackers - page 2. (Read 1861 times)

I agree with U. That,s miens  someone is background and he helped 9/11 hijackers. And he tried to incline Saudia Arabia. 

Is it my imagination or do we suddenly have a Saudi propaganda group in this forum. Have counted three Jr. members so far that pretty much seem off topic and the point is always America is wrong in some way. Just a thought now back on topic.
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So individuals can not sue a Country but big companies will be able to do so under these new trade agreements!
Does this not make things clear that government is not for the people and is toxic at the core;its disgusting the route we are going now.
Think its in the publics interest to see these documents because it could give a lot of countries reason to pull out of the middle east and let the middle east settle their own issues. Some of the reason we are there in the first place stems from Iraq and then this 9/11 aspect. So Iraq is done with and if the Saudis are responsible they can pay for all the damages and proceed to clean up their own mess,instead of hiding behind other groups.
Imagine all the postivie that could come from this as we could out the Saudis for who they really are!
They would face restrictions as a terrorist country and it would strangle them to the effect of losing all sway.

i never hear about this,if this true,so why country like indonesia who have so many resources and oil,not free from hijackers,its can be some weird fact if this true.

A jury can require a country to go to war.



It's a very interesting alternate universe you live in.

Doctrine of Sovereign Immunity

    The traditional rule is that the government or sovereign cannot be sued without its consent. This doctrine prevented citizens from bringing actions against the government to redress wrongs allegedly committed against them by the government.

    The government retains sovereign immunity in order to protect the Treasury and its discretionary governmental functions.

    Waiver of sovereign immunity and consent to be sued can only be granted by an act of Congress. In giving its consent, Congress may impose such conditions and restrictions as it deems proper. Schillinger v. United States, 155 U.S. 163 (1894).

In America, Canada, Britain, and Australia, and a few other countries that have juries, any person can bring any claim before the court in jury trial. The jury has the right and duty to judge according to its conscience. The jury could require damages from another country, and require the nation to go to war to retrieve those damages. If the nation didn't appeal it and get it changed by another jury, it would be against the law to not go to war after the damages.

it's not a waffle, and your point seemed to be that damage from war could be solved with lawsuits, which is ridiculous on it's face value.

It,s not helping. Everyone knows America want a issue to attack Saudia Arabia. sometimes I think hijackers are inside of America.

It,s not help you. everywhere some good and some bad. What are you proving? Saudia Arabia help 9/11 hijackers or they hijack 9/11?

sorry but your waffle missed my entire point 

Business as usual.

No, it doesn't "open the USA up" or any such thing. 

Sovereign nations under English common law have immunity from lawsuits.  This carries over and down into states, and even counties and cities having similar immunities.

What is interesting is a question about the immunity of (hypothetical) a single Saudi Prince. 

I think he's not able to piggyback on the immunity from lawsuits enjoyed by his nation.

Simplifying it a bit.

Say a Saudi prince goes to England, shoots a man in cold blood, then returns to Saudi Arabia.

Is he immune from prosecution in England?

I'm not an attorney but I think NO.

summary; Obama doesn't want the Saudi sued over the few thousand killed in 9/11 as it opens the USA to being sued buy the millions its recently and currently killing or displacing in protecting its own interest; makes sense.

Right! After all, the NSA, CIA, and FBI wouldn't have allowed any of us to help Al Queda, right?

 

It's only a guess, but my idea is that "some or a few" of the "royal family" helped Al Queda.  Problem is there are some 10,000 princes in that bunch.  Assume for an example that just one of those was actively pro Al Queda and was unabashedly helping them.

Should that enable the families to sue the Saudi government? 

It's a valid question.

i do no know that why everyone is targeting the saudia arabia for 9/11 attacks and thay say that saudia helped hijackers in those attacks but there governament has already explained that they have nothing to do with those attacks.

I heard and read a lot regarding this theory and still didn't find or see one concrete evidence for such claim.
Of course, this conspiracy theory sounds interesting and people like to talk about it but we can't judge whole country based on speculations only.
Yes, Bin Laden and some other attackers was from Saudi Arabia and probably some people from this country like terrorist and supporting them but still this is not enough to say that Saudi Arabia is behind this attack.
After all, what will be their motivation, their goal for something like this?

What is a State? What is a foreign State, like Saudi Arabia?

States are simply states of mind. Sometimes they are written down, like the U.S. Constitution, and the various Constitutions of the various American States. Why are they written down? So that the people can maintain a "correct" State attitude.

States, themselves do nothing. It is always people who do something.

Saudi Arabia did nothing regarding 9/11. It was some people who did it. Some of the people may have held in their minds the writings of the State of Saudi Arabia. It was still people that did it.

The thing that we do not know about Obama is, is the State of America or the State of Saudi Arabia strongest in his heart? Same said about Bush or anyone else.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/look-inside-europes-largest-foreigner-ghetto  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/seymour-hersh-saudis-paid-pakistan-hold-bin-laden-prevent-us-interrogation

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/1-out-every-5-american-families-nobody-has-job

If nobody is working in one out of every five U.S. families, then how in the world can the unemployment rate be close to 5 percent as the Obama administration keeps insisting? The truth, of course, is that the U.S. economy is in far worse condition than we are being told. Last week, I discussed the fact that the Federal Reserve has found that 47 percent of all Americans would not be able to come up with $400 for an unexpected visit to the emergency room without borrowing it or selling something. But Barack Obama and his minions never bring up that number. Nor do they ever bring up the fact that 20 percent of all families in America are completely unemployed. The following comes directly from the Bureau of Labor Statistics…        

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

Putin realizes the American Empire is bankrupt, morally, and financially.  Whose going to fight for the United States?  Obese teenagers?  Kids that have lived in their parents basements their entire lives? Grown ups basically act like children and collect star wars figurines. We're a nation of soft boogers without a rudder, we don't trust our leadership and we certainly don't trust our government.  The countries in NATO don't even like us, except for our free military, they wouldn't want anything to do with us.
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Looks like the EU has a death wish. Russia has circa 5000 tactical nuclear weapons on its western border with Europe. Any US/NATO attack on Russia will result in Europe being incinerated in 30 minutes. Is this what the EU politburo in Brussels wants? Did they learn anything from Europe’s experiences in WWI and WWII? It would appear they did not.

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logically country(Usa) with hidden debt 250 trilions usd and despair for future retirees need a world war and to give sanctions they want.

They abused eastern european countries when they are admitted to NATO only to take advantage of them. as brussels abuse all now..

Volkswagen pays compensation to Americans and Europeans are *ucked. *uckin Nazis. Do not buy the German brand!

It was plan of  Israel, as no one from that country was present in office that day

It,s right. But why they helped 9/11? there some incurred people. but not all. I request u to see full document of 9/11.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FLXiH45wi4Y