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June 21, 2020, 12:33:02 PM
#53
The lockdown should be over to make economic sectors recover. There is no way to improve the economy by only staying at home. I cannot imagine if the lockdown lasts till a year, how can we survive to live. Even if it is still not the right time to go out, but I think as long as we follow the guide to prevent Covid-19, then it is no problem going out. Not all people can work from home, some only can work outside. Not all people have the same skills to work online and even some never know about online jobs. The situation is quite complicated but the only way to survive is by changing our habit, NOT staying at home forever.
Most countries have already lifted their quarantine days and allowed their citizens already to go back to their respective jobs. But even if the government allowed this to happen, we should still follow strictly those restrictions that will keep us safe from not spreading corona virus. Wearing face mask and bringing hand sanitizers are a must but we should not still be comfotable with this since the best medicine which is the vaccine is still not out in the market.
I think this is the right thing to do but I do not know if people will actually listen, we need to get back to our normal activities but this does not mean doing so in a way that put our lives at risk, we need to take all the necessary precautions and yet that is not what I see in my country, many people are not wearing face masks anymore and this could be very problematic as most likely this means the second wave of the pandemic it is going to be even worse than the first wave.
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June 21, 2020, 09:39:49 AM
#52
Look, we literally need to understand that this has now become something we need to live with, at least till a few more years or until a working vaccine takes place in the market. And for that, even if these bans have been lifted, there are still a lot more restrictions to be followed where temperature checks, wearing masks, sanitizing hands by washing them, washing your face after coming back from some place, etc. and many more measures are being taken by governments in order to save their citizens from getting infected.

This pandemic really brought us huge changes on how we act or communicate with other people. There are a lot of factors that are affected, especially the economy of our country. The government implemented a new set of rules and regulations that must be followed in order to have a more safer surroundings.

There are new laws that will make us become more comfortable on how we engage with our environment. Hoping that this what we called "new normal" should help us recover from economic crisis as the government allow some businesses to open once again to have profits and recover from all the damage that this pandemic brought to us.
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June 20, 2020, 10:55:45 PM
#51
I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.
What is health if you have no foods in our table?what is health concern if you are slowly dying because of starvation?

we are too different in ways of living,yeah we are online person so we can make money inside internet but what about those people that needs physical just to do a living?lets be realistic,this Virus is stopping our future now,we must not afraid of this instead let us just do the precautionary measures to keep safer but life must go on,even wi or without this virus.



When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .

• Bans on many Casinos was lifted
• The Flights have started operating
• Schools are going to start again

And much more !


As what i've said above,Life must go on and let the government claim their profit because they have invested too much in this Pandemic and all of the resources has been spent so this time of payback,and this Corona must be face seriously but without Pausing our living.
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June 20, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
#50
You are totally right. We need at this time to save lives and not expose them. We must follow health controls to prevent the virus from spreading. If we manage to stay healthy, we gain time not to invest them in health centers. We also need to be patient, scientists are working hard to find a cure, but we must wait. Our mission is to follow the norm and use the masks, we take care of ourselves and others.
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June 20, 2020, 12:38:03 PM
#49
I believe that in this situation, when the world is faced with new challenges, including the coronavirus pandemic, to save the global economy, as well as the economy of each country individually, all governments must resort to non-standard solutions to solve the problems associated with a balanced the work of the state system and business. in my opinion, a very good step by the government will be an amnesty of capital and certain benefits for a particular business sector. the fact that today they are trying to solve the problem by reducing people and not paying salaries to these people, with these methods you can only achieve the opposite result and can not solve the problem.
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June 20, 2020, 11:45:33 AM
#48
I think what the government should do is to balance life and economy. Prioritize saving lives and saving the economy. It is their job to provide their people the safety they need going to work. In my country, when they ease the lockdowns, workers need better transpo with social distancing, more testing, and etc.
these are the things that the government is doing right now, it is just that the things are not easy to handle especially it needs a full cooperation from all of us. Some govenrment is trying to open up the economy, they are trying to not let the economy decline as we are facing this pandemic and finding for the solution simultaneously.

As long as all the safety precautions are being followed, life and economy will be save. However, there are still some issues who aren't being prioritize. Some workers still have problems with transpo, so what can they do, they go for a long walk, or bike to work, then they need safer streets to go to work. Slow contact racing is a problem too, we still can't even flatten the curve.
Public vehicles are already rolling, what the problem is a huge number of people going to work. I think going to work with bicycle will be the new normal as safety precaution to the virus.

Covid 19 problems should be the priority. We prioritize life during the lockdowns, now that they ease it for the economy, I hope life will not be the cost of it.
The death during the pandemic is inevitable, what we can do is to lessen the life expense.
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June 20, 2020, 10:35:27 AM
#47
I think what the government should do is to balance life and economy. Prioritize saving lives and saving the economy. It is their job to provide their people the safety they need going to work. In my country, when they ease the lockdowns, workers need better transpo with social distancing, more testing, and etc. As long as all the safety precautions are being followed, life and economy will be save. However, there are still some issues who aren't being prioritize. Some workers still have problems with transpo, so what can they do, they go for a long walk, or bike to work, then they need safer streets to go to work. Slow contact racing is a problem too, we still can't even flatten the curve.

Covid 19 problems should be the priority. We prioritize life during the lockdowns, now that they ease it for the economy, I hope life will not be the cost of it.
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June 20, 2020, 09:07:57 AM
#46
Yes, it is true that coronavirus has made the economic side of the economy unusable and people are facing a lot of problems and because of this schools and colleges have been closed, the wheel of the economy has become stagnant and we have been able to keep the wheel of the economy moving.

We need to recover from economic crisis that we are experiencing right now because it can affect how we live in the next few years. The good thing that the government here are giving chances to those small and big businesses to operate with the "new normal". There are new set of rules and regulations that they must follow in order to open and operate safely.

Huge businesses like universities, corporations, and etc, they are the most affected sectors of the economy as they are not allowed to open because they have huge volumes of customers.

Each and every governments should make an effective plan which they will use to make their economy recover and become stable. Some countries are now in a process of recovery and their economy is now moving well, so that they can retrieve all their budget that they've spent during lockdown. That's how they save their economy from this pandemic.
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June 20, 2020, 03:05:29 AM
#45
All pending activities, event and tournament has had a chance to operate again.Through the help of our good government and most especially our hero front liner's ,so far i saw the largest modification and the invironmental subject is probably turn to a cool and getting free but it doesn't mean that we will confirmed as confiding after they said that it is a real dealing of time for rebooting on economy that's because those specific decision is so unclear and I think it is basically allow to all unrestricted country of Free from pandemic.
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June 19, 2020, 12:02:06 PM
#44
I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.

When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .

• Bans on many Casinos was lifted
• The Flights have started operating
• Schools are going to start again

And much more !

I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty .  We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die.
Exactly. If every people in a country knows how to collaborate with their government, even they make an awful mistakes. No one would be suffering in this situation of the pandemic because there are some people who are only good on putting all the blame to their government, but in reality they also make big mistakes in this current situation.
I do not know what kind of population mistakes you are talking about. There are very poor countries where people have worked for a day and received money. There are no savings in these countries. The state did not support them. And what should they do? Do not starve to death? And I think it’s not worth blaming them for the ease of actions. They can also be quarantined and watch TV shows.
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June 19, 2020, 01:31:24 AM
#43
I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.

When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .

• Bans on many Casinos was lifted
• The Flights have started operating
• Schools are going to start again

And much more !

I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty .  We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die.
Exactly. If every people in a country knows how to collaborate with their government, even they make an awful mistakes. No one would be suffering in this situation of the pandemic because there are some people who are only good on putting all the blame to their government, but in reality they also make big mistakes in this current situation.
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June 19, 2020, 01:06:36 AM
#42
It is really difficult to overcome the current situation but the government is not able to do anything here because of how long people can sit idle like this That's why everything is restarted Adequate savings and opening up everything will lead to the expansion of business and the economy will improve very fast. But if people move freely the number of virus attacks will increase so we have to be careful as a development version of the economy.
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June 19, 2020, 12:41:09 AM
#41
I do think we do realize that the most important thing one should be concerned right now about is actually : Well being, Good health of his family and himself too.

When I go through the news I do realize that the government is prematurely removing the Quarantine , which might cost life of a lot of people .

• Bans on many Casinos was lifted
• The Flights have started operating
• Schools are going to start again

And much more !

I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?
That's true but i think government decide to reopen some business stablishment and transportation because of many people are arguing with the goverment and many hardheaded people that always disobey the rules of the government. They always said that they would not die of virus but starve. This current situation cause by the pandemic is really difficult both on the side of the people and government. The only one thing for me to prevent virus spreading if people collaborate with the government despite of difficulty .  We need to suffer now for a short time rather than many can die.
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June 18, 2020, 03:48:56 PM
#40
Unfortunately, the economic crisis with pandemic has had a very bad impact on both businesses and many states. For this reason, many countries have now decided to relax the measures and we see that many strict rules are not valid. I think a second wave will emerge as a result of these decisions and no measures will be taken this time. Yes, the businesses have started to be opened as mandatory because no contribution has been made by the governments, but this is not a very good thing. If there is a comment that needs to be taken from these decisions and events, it is actually that the economies of the country and money are more valuable than human life. I wish all the countries of the world were caught prepared for this situation and we would not witness the days like this.
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June 18, 2020, 01:17:28 PM
#39
Saving enables the production of capital goods, saving is obviously at the heart of the economic growth that raises people's living standards. Another important role of money is to serve as a medium of saving. Good for the economy because it increases productivity. No matter the savings rate, more savings will translate into more capital.
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June 17, 2020, 11:36:47 AM
#38

They reasoned we shouldn't be afraid of covid forever and that we should reopen the business for we all die anyway were just influenced by the big businessmen and politicians being influenced by these businessmen. These big businesses need to reopen their business because they only care for their money.

Life can go on without reopening yet because there are lives to save. Whats a government and business has to work on if there are no people left?
To live is not easy when infected already and a person with a family can contaminate everyone in a family and the next family who live nearby.

The percentage of people who die from coronavirus is so little.
It is not that businessman care about their money, but just consider how many people cannot live because they are not have money when they stop working and being on unemployment due to coronavirus. Rich will live but poor will not.
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June 17, 2020, 10:24:55 AM
#37
I believe the government took the decision to remove the quarantine is not easy, because there are risks that must be risked.
And I believe the government's decision is the best for now, because it's been more than 3 months there is no certainty about vaccines.
It is impossible to extend quarantine time, while the peoples has run out of money for living expenses. And not all work can be done
at home. So the choice of saving the economy is the best decision in my opinion.
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June 17, 2020, 09:20:03 AM
#36
The governments have no choice op. Extending lockdowns in many countries will only lead to more chaos which is why they are lifting them carefully.

Certain countries like New Zealand have found the optimal way to control the spread of the virus at present which is impressive and other governments can learn from them. World governments need to optimally control the spread of the virus and kickstart their economy.

This situation will probably stay this way until the middle of next year after which the vaccine would probably solve the problem worldwide.
When the global lock down broke out I was not convinced that it would be the solution. In the USA some weeks before the lockdown saw high level of shopping activities -all in preparation for the stay at home- but even at the lockdown cases was rising.
Areas such as
+ Business -small and large scale
+ Education
+  Tourism
+ Individual recreational schedule. -outing, dates, hangout etc-

And other areas will feel the heat, it was just only a matter of time before the lockdown would be easy -and not the finding out of the vaccine- total lockdown was not the solution as we could see now, other measures aimed at reducing the spread but not crippling individual and the nation economy
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June 17, 2020, 09:06:43 AM
#35
I do think we should realize that even though we are moving forward to save the economy of the world , we are actually less concerned about COVID-19 now.

Is it worth it ?

Because even though we have strict regulations, even though people have been given strict rules to follow , they will still mess up !

I am aware of the counter argument : If this is not done people will still die ..Hungry , without being able to pay for the basic necessities

But I do think there should be some way , such as Quarantine is extended but still the Sectors Instead of asking people to come to the office continues to work from Home.

There should be Penalty on people for not wearing masks, might sound ridiculous for some but please understand that :

The second or Third wave of the virus can be prevented by 100% usage of masks .

With Risks increasing and possible economic collapse where are we headed to ?

Save the economy at the expense of additional budged health and additional funeral expenses. Because in reality with the presence or absence of quarantine, the number of positive covid-19 patients continues to increase, and in the end, for the community, the number of sufferers and the death rate is only a number.

The end of quarantine is also an implied language that "the ability of the government to sustain the deficit budged is enough to end here". Education during quarantine is enough to make people wise to behave and respond to corona. Starting from the origin to the effects ranging from mild to deadly. The deadly surge that occurred in Italy with health facilities that are not supportive and the practice of prioritizing patients who might be able to be saved who are treated, is considered to have a horror effect for the people.

The socialization of standardization of behavior during the pandemic has been given. Start using masks, diligently wash hands, and use hand sanitizers, not crowding, and keep a distance. So now people from the level of individuals, institutions, entertainment and recreation facilities, companies, schools to places of worship are considered to have been intelligent and well educated about covid-19. For healthy choices, sickness, or ending in a grave, the choice is left to the people. This is also a pandemic management strategy using semi herd immunity (ignoring the availability of adequate health services). So which one is your choice?
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June 17, 2020, 06:12:26 AM
#34
We can't afford to just stay and hope and wait for the support of the government, the vaccine as per news will be available next year, so that means we need to wait for 6 months or more and staying at home would help to minimize the virus spread but it has bigger negative effect on the economy.

The law has to be strictly implemented as we have protocol in place already, that's what the government has to do, but then, it will not be fully successful if we, people are not responsible and supportive of the measures implemented by the government.

We have no choice at this moment, though health is our first priority but if our economy will struggle, slowly we will all die and that's the sad reality.
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