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legendary
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May 04, 2014, 10:32:30 PM
#33
What issues did you have?

Once I bought a laptop from Ebay, which got damaged just after two weeks. The seller refused to issue me a replacement, saying that it was my fault. Contacted the Ebay staff, but no use there.
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Gerald Davis
May 04, 2014, 08:04:07 PM
#32
SSD is at 8 electrons per bit so only three more very very difficult doublings.  

Not sure where you get this idea from.  SSD are NAND transistors.  Even at 20nm the transistors are 30 to 40 atoms across and each Silicon atom has 14 atoms electrons. No silicon circuit works on individual electrons.  Retrieving or writing a bit of flash ends up involving millions of electrons.  Maybe you are conflating MLC and TLC (storing two or three bits per cell) with number of electrons?  Not sure.
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May 04, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
#31
HDD cannot improve much further but ssd can.
SSD is at 8 electrons per bit so only three more very very difficult doublings.  They are working on some other tricks.

HDD has HAMR, SMR, HAMR+SMR, pattern media, other tricks.

About the same horizons on both.
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May 04, 2014, 06:05:00 PM
#30
People still manufacture, buy and use tape.  In fact there is still research going on to increase the data density on tape.

HDD will be around for years.

By the looks of things I would say tapes may get a second life.

185TB Cassette Tapes
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/4/5681066/sony-blows-away-record-with-185tb-cassette-tape
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 03:23:31 PM
#29
Sandisk announces 4TB SSD, hopes for 8TB next year.

"We see reaching the 4TB mark as really just the beginning and expect to continue doubling the capacity every year or two, far outpacing the growth for traditional HDDs," Manuel Martull, SanDisk's product & solutions marketing director, stated in an email reply to Computerworld.


http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9248070/SanDisk_announces_4TB_SSD_hopes_for_8TB_next_year

SSD prices are still too high to abandon HDD.

Yes, the prices will dive dramatically in the future.
Last time I bought an HDD the retail price was 50% lower in a little over a year.
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May 04, 2014, 03:06:24 PM
#28
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

i bought my 128GB kingston v3 SSD for $65 over 1 year ago. everywhere else, it was at least $80. staples has some of the best deals if you know hwo to shop with them.

buying on ebay, there's no guarantee and your warranty might be voided if it's not from a retailer.

I actually got some of my drives from PC World's ebay store and they were much cheaper by about £20-30 than the actual in-store or online price. Came with warranties too.

maybe it's different in the UK. everything there seems to be more expensive. sucker.
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May 04, 2014, 03:05:10 PM
#27
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

i bought my 128GB kingston v3 SSD for $65 over 1 year ago. everywhere else, it was at least $80. staples has some of the best deals if you know hwo to shop with them.

buying on ebay, there's no guarantee and your warranty might be voided if it's not from a retailer.

I actually got some of my drives from PC World's ebay store and they were much cheaper by about £20-30 than the actual in-store or online price. Came with warranties too.
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 03:03:17 PM
#26
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

i bought my 128GB kingston v3 SSD for $65 over 1 year ago. everywhere else, it was at least $80. staples has some of the best deals if you know hwo to shop with them.

buying on ebay, there's no guarantee and your warranty might be voided if it's not from a retailer.

I don't know about in the USA but over here Staples is very expensive, especially for things like drives. You don't have to get them from ebay, there are always smaller stores selling them cheaper.

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

I don't want to use Ebay anymore. In the past, I had some serious issues with them. Yes... I agree that some of the deals are cheaper than those available on the other sites... but not taking the risk anymore.  Angry

What issues did you have?
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 02:53:27 PM
#25
Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

I don't want to use Ebay anymore. In the past, I had some serious issues with them. Yes... I agree that some of the deals are cheaper than those available on the other sites... but not taking the risk anymore.  Angry
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May 04, 2014, 02:41:07 PM
#24
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.

i bought my 128GB kingston v3 SSD for $65 over 1 year ago. everywhere else, it was at least $80. staples has some of the best deals if you know hwo to shop with them.

buying on ebay, there's no guarantee and your warranty might be voided if it's not from a retailer.
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
#23
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona

Don't ever buy them from big brand stores like Staples or PC World. You can get them much cheaper if you look around online or on ebay. I got a brand new Western Digital 4tb external hard drive for a little over £100 on ebay a while back.
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May 04, 2014, 02:02:25 PM
#22
HDD cannot improve much further but ssd can.
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 01:14:09 PM
#21
Im sure HDD will be around for another 10yrs, So how many years can a SSD hold its data
People still manufacture, buy and use tape.  In fact there is still research going on to increase the data density on tape.

HDD will be around for years.
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May 04, 2014, 12:39:35 PM
#20
I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap.

Never bet against silicon.  Due to Moore's law the cost of a CPU in terms of computing power per dollar has improved by a factor of nearly one billion.   I am sure in 1980 someone said the same thing about CPUS and they are wrong by a many many many orders of magnitude.  The same thing will happen with SSD.  It is only a matter of when.

yeah pretty much. it's also economics - scale economies. in the mid 90's, a midrange computer would run you $2,000. it had windows 3.1 on it and couldn't even play compressed mp3 music.
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May 04, 2014, 12:36:39 PM
#19
I bought a 60GB SSD few years ago, just wanted to see if it's really better than HDD, and it is. Small, quiet, fast, stays cool, consumes less electricity. The only downside is it was overpriced as hell, You could buy a whole laptop for the cost of 3 of those.
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Gerald Davis
May 04, 2014, 11:33:05 AM
#18
I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap.

Never bet against silicon.  Due to Moore's law the cost of a CPU in terms of computing power per dollar has improved by a factor of nearly one billion.  This is something we kinda take for granted but this level of improvement doesn't occur in anything other than semiconductors.  Cars are better today than they were in the 1970s but they aren't a billion times cheaper in terms of performance per dollar.   Housing construction has been improved but the cost of a house in terms of $/sq foot hasn't been reduced by a factor of a billion.    

I am sure in 1980 someone said the same thing about CPUs, and they ended up being wrong by many many many orders of magnitude.  The same thing will happen with SSD.  It is only a matter of when.
legendary
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May 04, 2014, 10:23:48 AM
#17
How much does a 4 TB SSD cost right now? I can get a Seagate HDD 4 TB Desktop Internal Hard Drive from the Amazon for just under $200. I don't think that the SDD will ever get this much cheap. The WD 4TB 3 1/2" Desktop Internal Hard Drive is even cheaper.

http://www.staples.com/WD-4TB-3-1-2-inch-Desktop-Internal-Hard-Drive-Green/product_IM1TA9583?externalize=certona
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May 04, 2014, 10:15:02 AM
#16
Im sure HDD will be around for another 10yrs, So how many years can a SSD hold its data
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May 03, 2014, 03:02:53 PM
#15
too early to say good bye to HDDs. we are at least 2-3 years away i think.

maybe even 4-5.

the prices of SSD are coming down, but still cost too much compared to HDD
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May 03, 2014, 02:28:46 PM
#14
I am happy that I have 60GB SSD and I bought it for like 1/3 of my monthly wage 2 years ago. I wonder how much will cost these 4TB SSD. I bet price will be total overkill for me.

how much did you get your 60gb?
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