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legendary
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October 24, 2015, 02:02:51 PM
#26
I think technology level will save us from this so water will always stay cheap.
But I cannot say same for food.
legendary
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October 24, 2015, 02:09:46 AM
#25
There are 2 different issues, let's not mix them. One problem is scarcity, the other is price. There's plenty of water in Dubai despite the place being surrounded by desert. The problems are in Chad or Sudan where millions live with less than 2$ a day.

No. They are not different issues. There is hardly any natural fresh water available in Dubai, same as the case with countries such as Chad or Sudan. So they have to first desalinize the salt water, and convert it to fresh water. That is why the water is so expensive in Dubai. And you should also remember that the population of Dubai has increased by close to 1,000% in the last 20 years.

And do you have any idea about the population growth rates in Chad and Sudan?
legendary
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Your country may be your worst enemy
October 23, 2015, 07:15:55 PM
#24
There are 2 different issues, let's not mix them. One problem is scarcity, the other is price. There's plenty of water in Dubai despite the place being surrounded by desert. The problems are in Chad or Sudan where millions live with less than 2$ a day.

Also, I've noticed than in several European countries, cost of water is less than half the price of your water bill. House delivery and used water treatment costs more than water itself.
legendary
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October 23, 2015, 03:16:26 PM
#23
If we keep the population down, then there will be enough water for everyone. It is not a mere coincidence that the countries which are facing the worst water shortages (Afghanistan, Egypt.etc) are also the ones having the highest population growth rates in the world. The total amount of fresh water available is limited. If the population spirals out of control, there won't be enough for everyone.
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October 23, 2015, 01:08:00 PM
#22
drink diet coke , save water for billions times and then we can save the earth
legendary
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July 15, 2015, 10:26:30 AM
#21
So the quality of y'all water will also go down, rendering it unsuitable for drinking or cooking with, forcing us all to buy over priced bottled water. This sounds like a disaster. There's guns be riots next

Water purifiers can be a good solution. You can get some pretty decent pieces in many different sizes for moderate prices. Collecting rainwater and properly cleaning it can also help. (However if you take a look at the Bolivian water war, you'll see that Law 2029 handed over the ownership of rainwater for a private company.)
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July 15, 2015, 09:05:27 AM
#20
So the quality of y'all water will also go down, rendering it unsuitable for drinking or cooking with, forcing us all to buy over priced bottled water. This sounds like a disaster. There's guns be riots next
hero member
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July 15, 2015, 08:57:25 AM
#19
There are always stories of the water in the US, in various cities with prescription medicines. People in the US, drink some crazy water.

Prescription Drugs in Your Food and Drinking Water


"Recent Findings and Debate

Some of the latest health summits have looked at which environmental medicines are a risk to consumers. These groups recognize that the concentration of medicines found in food and water supplies is very small. Still, there is worry over even trace amounts of medicine in the American diet. At the moment, we do not know if these medicines can harm the body over several years of exposure.

Examples of medicines that have been found in national water sources:

    • Antibiotics
    • Antidepressants
    • Anticonvulsants
    • Prescription hormones
    • Blood pressure medications
    • Cholesterol medications

Safety issues that may be linked to medicines in national water sources:

    • Possible increased rates of cancer
    • Possible organ damage from long periods of exposure to medicine
    • Possible organ damage from the intake of unusual mixtures of medicines
    • The development of antibiotic resistant bacteria"

This is just a part of the problem. Pesticide and herbicide residues and stuff what occurs when these chemicals breaking down, disinfection byproducts are getting more and more an issue. Other additives like fluoride also have some adverse effects.

I agree, sadly.
legendary
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July 15, 2015, 08:44:09 AM
#18
There are always stories of the water in the US, in various cities with prescription medicines. People in the US, drink some crazy water.

Prescription Drugs in Your Food and Drinking Water


"Recent Findings and Debate

Some of the latest health summits have looked at which environmental medicines are a risk to consumers. These groups recognize that the concentration of medicines found in food and water supplies is very small. Still, there is worry over even trace amounts of medicine in the American diet. At the moment, we do not know if these medicines can harm the body over several years of exposure.

Examples of medicines that have been found in national water sources:

    • Antibiotics
    • Antidepressants
    • Anticonvulsants
    • Prescription hormones
    • Blood pressure medications
    • Cholesterol medications

Safety issues that may be linked to medicines in national water sources:

    • Possible increased rates of cancer
    • Possible organ damage from long periods of exposure to medicine
    • Possible organ damage from the intake of unusual mixtures of medicines
    • The development of antibiotic resistant bacteria"

This is just a part of the problem. Pesticide and herbicide residues and stuff what occurs when these chemicals breaking down, disinfection byproducts are getting more and more an issue. Other additives like fluoride also have some adverse effects.
legendary
Activity: 1848
Merit: 1000
July 15, 2015, 07:41:14 AM
#17

Now THAT is a scary thought, PSYCHOTROPICS and HORMONE drugs in the water supply...seems that they could tell MOST people they were putting these in there and they wouldn't batt an eye!  Most Americans just blindly accept what is dictated to them from their leaders, thinking they are working for the public good
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Yep, most people will just assume that the government doesn't want to hurt them I mean why would they, the government loves everybody, there is no homeless situation, there are no starving people, there is no poverty why?  because the government loves you and would never dream of putting anything in your water Smiley
hero member
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July 15, 2015, 07:29:47 AM
#16
I have my own well but the problem is not having an access to water but having water that you know is clean and doesn't have to be filtered and boiled. Actually I'm more afraid they'll leak some shit, poison the groundwater and I'll drink it without even knowing.

That was my first thought when I read this. Wink

There are always stories of the water in the US, in various cities with prescription medicines. People in the US, drink some crazy water.

Prescription Drugs in Your Food and Drinking Water


"Recent Findings and Debate

Some of the latest health summits have looked at which environmental medicines are a risk to consumers. These groups recognize that the concentration of medicines found in food and water supplies is very small. Still, there is worry over even trace amounts of medicine in the American diet. At the moment, we do not know if these medicines can harm the body over several years of exposure.

Examples of medicines that have been found in national water sources:

    • Antibiotics
    • Antidepressants
    • Anticonvulsants
    • Prescription hormones
    • Blood pressure medications
    • Cholesterol medications

Safety issues that may be linked to medicines in national water sources:

    • Possible increased rates of cancer
    • Possible organ damage from long periods of exposure to medicine
    • Possible organ damage from the intake of unusual mixtures of medicines
    • The development of antibiotic resistant bacteria"

Now THAT is a scary thought, PSYCHOTROPICS and HORMONE drugs in the water supply...seems that they could tell MOST people they were putting these in there and they wouldn't batt an eye!  Most Americans just blindly accept what is dictated to them from their leaders, thinking they are working for the public good
legendary
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July 15, 2015, 01:58:21 AM
#15
Without a doubt water is the next big market it also is one where companies know that first-right to water is important
If your planting a claim its best to have older rights example California
I can live without oil but I can't live without water.
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
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July 15, 2015, 12:40:19 AM
#14
I don't know about people buying property over aquifers, although I wouldn't be incredibly surprised.

The fact that water is a more precious resource than oil (and therefore will be something fought over, viciously) is one that has yet to realize full potential among the masses, but it's absolutely true. It's not about energy, it's about life. Everyone needs water to live and water is precious, expensive to process (like turning salt water into fresh water) and finite in regions when there is a drought. The only small silver lining is that water does renew itself, but not at the rate that it is consumed and that renewal isn't consistent in the same place year over year, decade over decade.

If you can't buy land over an aquifer (and aquifers do run out), consider buying stock in water management or water engineering companies...at least you can make some coin to help afford the run up.
legendary
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July 15, 2015, 12:35:01 AM
#13

I just dug two water wells and got super lucky.  25 gal/min between the two, and both produce good tasting and pure water.  Happy days!

I'm also selling my place in town in some measure because the water and sewer rates are high and I forsee them going much higher.  The town is going gangbusters on the whole ICLEI urban enhancement bandwagon.  This means that they are going to be going into hock big-time and will need to be servicing the dept for the rest of my life.  They will do it by cutting services and gouging people for every fucking little thing.  Getting rid of my property in town reduces my 'attack surface' so-to-speak.  I don't spend much time there anyway.

If I buy any more property it certainly won't be in the U.S. absent some significant political changes.  This place is fucked up.  Not sure many other places are not however.

legendary
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July 14, 2015, 08:40:11 PM
#12
Medicines are just a small fraction of the stuff you can find in your water. A few years back there was a serious contamination in a nearby town because power transformer broke and leaked oil into the ground. It appears this oil doesn't break down and can stay in the ground forever, poisoning people and animals.
hero member
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July 14, 2015, 08:25:56 PM
#11
I have my own well but the problem is not having an access to water but having water that you know is clean and doesn't have to be filtered and boiled. Actually I'm more afraid they'll leak some shit, poison the groundwater and I'll drink it without even knowing.

That was my first thought when I read this. Wink

There are always stories of the water in the US, in various cities with prescription medicines. People in the US, drink some crazy water.

Prescription Drugs in Your Food and Drinking Water


"Recent Findings and Debate

Some of the latest health summits have looked at which environmental medicines are a risk to consumers. These groups recognize that the concentration of medicines found in food and water supplies is very small. Still, there is worry over even trace amounts of medicine in the American diet. At the moment, we do not know if these medicines can harm the body over several years of exposure.

Examples of medicines that have been found in national water sources:

    • Antibiotics
    • Antidepressants
    • Anticonvulsants
    • Prescription hormones
    • Blood pressure medications
    • Cholesterol medications

Safety issues that may be linked to medicines in national water sources:

    • Possible increased rates of cancer
    • Possible organ damage from long periods of exposure to medicine
    • Possible organ damage from the intake of unusual mixtures of medicines
    • The development of antibiotic resistant bacteria"
legendary
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July 14, 2015, 08:04:40 PM
#10
I have my own well but the problem is not having an access to water but having water that you know is clean and doesn't have to be filtered and boiled. Actually I'm more afraid they'll leak some shit, poison the groundwater and I'll drink it without even knowing.
legendary
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Your country may be your worst enemy
July 14, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
#9
This problem is well known. It's very real. It's not yet apparent to all, but clean, safe to drink, water is a rare commodity in most of Asia and in several African countries. German philosopher Ernst Junger explained it. First, there was the forest, then men came, and then it was desert. Those are not its exact words, but that's the idea. The rich countries are also affected, the droughts are getting worse and worse in California. In Australia too, restrictions are getting normal.
sr. member
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July 14, 2015, 03:01:38 PM
#8
Drink Beer, Save Water.
Beer takes a bunch of water to make.
hero member
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July 14, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
#7
Since water get more expensive, try to save water as much as you can because not all people as lucky as us. Just look on Africa land mostly for example. They are lack of water for drinking and sanitation. But people can help each other to transport clean water to isolated area as long as our goverment also help us

Exactly, look at their death rates from things like diarrhea.  They cant get clean drinking water, contract disease and die from something you never hear about killing anyone elsewhere.

Imagine if it was that hard to get clean drinking water everywhere?  It's a scary scenario!  Dont take your clean drinking water for granted!
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