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Topic: Scam accusations against SupremosKaiosama (alt of Humbertin) (Read 1286 times)

Timelord2067

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Humbertin also uses the phrase

Code:

hellow

as I have referenced in my numerous reports concerning this scammer and have had that phrase in my list of keywords since at least January this year.

See also

https://loyce.club/badposts/
https://loyce.club/badposts/other.html

PalermoMoon was Date Registered: 2022-08-08, 14:31:45

Mwinami uses Hellow on the August 18, 2022, 05:57:54 PM to seek a $1000 USD loan. (and was Last Active: 2022-08-22, 06:58:34 )

on the 2022-08-26 PalermoMoon is active trading accounts

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3495893;dt

jakamin

2022-08-26

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(Created flag)

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3495893;dt

jakamin

2022-08-26

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Scammer , not paid one account

and today is active on the forum

It might be a thin connection, however, they (Mwinami and PalermoMoon) were both active within a week of each other using the same turn of phrase Humbertin uses.

LoyceV

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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: sujonali1819 on September 28, 2022, 09:24:18 AM

Humbertin is still active, still trying to scam,

Quote from: PalermoMoon on September 28, 2022, 09:02:08 AM

https://prnt.sc/1WzAP3IkO6Ae

Username Hello I am Humb

It's amazing he still uses the same well-known name to scam.

sujonali1819

legendary

Activity: 2436

Merit: 1189

Need Campaign Manager?PM on telegram @sujonali1819

Quote from: sujonali1819 on July 07, 2020, 09:30:13 AM

Quote from: SupremosKaiosama on June 06, 2020, 08:57:21 PM

Username Hello I am Humb
My winning amount: 0.00915 BTC

Quote from: PIBWORLD on July 06, 2020, 12:22:38 PM

Username Hello I am Humb
Deposited 0.002 btc
Withdraw winning: 0.014 btc

1. http://archive.fo/wip/kGnSw
2. http://archive.fo/7e1IO

Another account of SupremosKaiosama. The user first tried to cheat the blackjack.fun winning contest with the fake winning amount. And now he comes again with another bitcointalk account PIBWORLD (though the winning amount is correct this time)

Sorry for bumping the thread again.

Humbertin is still active, still trying to scam,

Quote from: PalermoMoon on September 28, 2022, 09:02:08 AM

https://prnt.sc/1WzAP3IkO6Ae

Username Hello I am Humb

archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20220928142605/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5413669.msg61024462

Nothing to say more, Just a warning and quoting for reference

LoyceV

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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 15, 2020, 10:37:31 AM

You started this thread with the express hope that others would give the accused negative trust feedback

Please don't make up things about me. I started this topic for 2 reasons:

Quote from: LoyceV on June 05, 2020, 02:19:25 PM

I'll use this topic for a neutral Reference tag.

If anyone wants to dig deeper

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 15, 2020, 10:37:31 AM

(all four lines of "evidence" - ironically, you write: "There's no direct evidence" and yet these people gave the UID negative anyway on the basis there was no "evidence")

Or maybe they based it on further posts in the topic. For instance:

Quote from: Avirunes on June 06, 2020, 05:07:07 AM

Yep, its Humbertin

suchmoon

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Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 15, 2020, 10:37:31 AM

I would not trust this user in a trade?

Negative trust rating is for high risk in a trade. You not trusting someone because they excluded you doesn't necessarily mean high risk. It might seem high risk to you and you may feel justified posting such feedback... and you will likely get excluded even more by others who see it as sour grapes.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 14, 2020, 12:55:32 PM

I'll share what I've posted before: before giving someone negative feedback, ask yourself: does this make the forum a better place? I've seen far too many negative feedbacks that don't meet this simple requirement!

You started this thread with the express hope that others would give the accused negative trust feedback, and they have obliged you:

(all four lines of "evidence" - ironically, you write: "There's no direct evidence" and yet these people gave the UID negative anyway on the basis there was no "evidence")

Quote from: Avirunes on June 06, 2020, 05:07:07 AM

nutildah

2020-06-06

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alt of scammer Humbertin19_, HumberBaccarat, TimesSquareNY, GoldenBuzzers, and many others

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2750388

marlboroza

2020-06-06

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Long term scammer.

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2750388

gunzz9xp

2020-06-08

Netflix Scammer alert 🔥🔥beware, he will leave negative feedback on you after he scam u

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2750388

Zabulus

2020-07-28

scammer

Now you want to frown at me because I have done the exact same thing these people have done? That doesn't wash, not with me, not with anyone.

If these people were truthful, they will all admit they took your word and "evidence" (remember you yourself say there is no "evidence") and have then proceeded to give the accused negative trust feedback on the basis of your word. (If they were truthful that is)

Well, that's exactly what I did, took the word of a user who has placed the reputation of their entire website on the line when they presented their evidence.

You people are still stressing out over trust feedback that was changed to NEUTRAL more than 24 hours ago and now you are frowning because I have said in trust feedback that I would not trust this user in a trade?

Really?

LoyceV

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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: webtricksALT on December 15, 2020, 01:48:13 AM

"I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback so I won't be leaving one but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback for coming up with this shit and wasting my time. "

That's how I handle similar cases too:
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webtricksALT

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I think my following words are being misunderstood so I will rephrase them just for the clarification:

Quote from: webtricks on December 12, 2020, 12:38:17 PM

I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback for coming up with this shit and wasting my time.

"I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback so I won't be leaving one but I think you deserve at least neutral feedback for coming up with this shit and wasting my time. "

I only consider negative for negative feedback as the retaliatory one. So me leaving you (@Timelord2067) neutral trust for your negative feedback wasn't retaliatory at all. It was the feedback on your poor judgement on detecting alts which eventually turned out to be true because you changed your feedback from 'red' to 'neutral' in my case and soon you gonna remove it completely when blackjack.fun will fail to provide any proof (provided if you are rational at all).

And as far as adding you to my distrust list is concerned, 'Trust List' is a private list of every member. Every member has complete right to add whoever he thinks is good in giving trustworthy feedback or bad when it comes to leaving feedback. Me adding you to my distrust list has no direct impact on forum reputation so there is nothing for you to complain about. And you ranting about it and further giving me red trust does nothing but justify why I added you to my distrust list.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: LoyceV on December 14, 2020, 12:55:32 PM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:59:21 PM

Webtricks first action by their own admission was to retaliatory DT distrust me - i.e. shoot first then ask questions later.

Why do you even call it retaliation?

Read the link that you've quoted and you will see that it's their words, not mine (self admitted retaliatory DT trust)

LoyceV

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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 14, 2020, 12:24:08 PM

LoyceV observed there was a discrepancy in the time zones.

The discrepancy was in the evidence, not the time zones.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:59:21 PM

so you tell me: Would it sit more comfortably with you if my trust feedback of Webtricks were NEUTRAL instead of negative in that I would not trust this person to do a trade with?

Yes.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:59:21 PM

Webtricks first action by their own admission was to retaliatory DT distrust me - i.e. shoot first then ask questions later.

Why do you even call it retaliation? If someone leaves me unwarranted negative feedback, I'll probably exclude them too. If someone shows bad judgement, excluding them is the correct way to use the Trust system.

I'll share what I've posted before: before giving someone negative feedback, ask yourself: does this make the forum a better place? I've seen far too many negative feedbacks that don't meet this simple requirement!

suchmoon

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Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 14, 2020, 12:24:08 PM

blackjack.fun came up with the time-zones as proof.

LoyceV observed there was a discrepancy in the time zones.

I gave a break down of those time zones and their geographical locations. (scroll up - it's in this thread)

Will you stop with this nonsense... here is the original post: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55809084

Nowhere does it say that timezone is the proof. LoyceV highlighted mismatched languages and timezones. You took that post and flipped it upside down as if those timezones prove something. They don't. Never did. Nobody except you claimed that they do. Have some dignity and own your words FFS.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 13, 2020, 11:20:27 PM

... still in denial about the world around them ...

Wrong again.

blackjack.fun came up with the time-zones as proof.

LoyceV observed there was a discrepancy in the time zones.

I gave a break down of those time zones and their geographical locations. (scroll up - it's in this thread)

suchmoon

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 10:52:32 PM

You are mistaken.

blackjack.fun came up with the timezones as proof.

No, they didn't. They showed some details of two browser fingerprints with timezones half the world away from each other and you tried to fabricate "proof" out of it.

Not to mention that there was nothing urgent about the situation to require immediate trust ratings. Nobody was attempting to scam anyone.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: suchmoon on December 13, 2020, 10:34:45 PM

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You are mistaken.

blackjack.fun came up with the timezones as proof.

suchmoon

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:59:21 PM

I've always been able to have good conversations with you, so you tell me: Would it sit more comfortably with you if my trust feedback of Webtricks were NEUTRAL instead of negative in that I would not trust this person to do a trade with?

This didn't require any trust ratings from you, let alone attempts to fabricate your own "proof" based on timezones. You should just stay out of things you don't understand but when has common sense ever stopped you from being an blithering idiot. Now you have a chance to whine about "abuse" again, congrats.

Timelord2067

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Quote from: hacker1001101001 on December 13, 2020, 09:21:46 PM

You are not, although you posted their trust list and gave them a neutral feedback for the same, without knowing any solid evidence other than Webtricks having same browser screen size as the other player ( that's a funny way to handle alts by blackjack.fun indeed )

My reliance on a gambling site placing their reputation on the line when they (not I) made the assertion that two accounts were connected won't be repeated given blackjack.fun now appears to be back peddling from their follow-up assertion that they have secret proof of a connection between the two.

Quote from: webtricks on December 12, 2020, 12:38:17 PM

I know it isn't considered wise to leave retaliatory feedback but I think you ...

Nevermind, congratulations for becoming the first entry in my distrust list.

Clear case of (self admitted) retaliatory DT distrust by Webtricks against myself.

@LoyceV @suchmoon

hacker1001101001

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 10:31:37 AM

Quote from: Rikafip on December 13, 2020, 09:32:04 AM

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I'm not the one making the assertion they are connected.

You are not, although you posted their trust list and gave them a neutral feedback for the same, without knowing any solid evidence other than webtricks having same browser screen size as the other player ( that's a funny way to handle alts by blackjack.fun indeed )

Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 10:31:37 AM

Quote from: webtricks on December 13, 2020, 09:33:06 AM

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Your attempt to further intimidate me has been noted.

Trust feedback has been updated:

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=921974

Timelord2067

2020-12-13

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This user has used retaliatory DT distrust against myself which I find untrustworthy and would not trade with this user as a result. (Delete)

I don't even think the above red feedback is valid as giving a retaliatory DT distrust to someone after you are personally accused by him without any evidence is acceptable. Anyway, I think you both should sort this out like a man ! _{( Side Note : webtricks is more friendly and open minded overall, FYI )}

Timelord2067

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Quote from: Rikafip on December 13, 2020, 09:32:04 AM

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I'm not the one making the assertion they are connected.

Quote from: webtricks on December 13, 2020, 09:33:06 AM

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Your attempt to further intimidate me has been noted.

Trust feedback has been updated:

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=921974

Timelord2067

2020-12-13

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This user has used retaliatory DT distrust against myself which I find untrustworthy and would not trade with this user as a result. (Delete)

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=921974

Timelord2067

2020-12-13

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blackjack.fun on 2020-12-12, 20:42:10 has made an assertion that webtricks is an alt of Humbertin / DavidXXXX / ser1ck / lokos1913a etc - Chronic gambler & scammer (and ban evasion). https://archive.vn/nAaEg#selection-5187.0-5187.45 (Delete)

webtricks

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:15:26 AM

UTC−05:00 takes in Colombia (which has been established as being Humbertin's point of origin) and Ecuador. (or are people going to say it's UTC+05:00 which takes in Pakistan Roll Eyes

)

There is no time zone -5.5 - Why would Webtricks have a time zone that doesn't exist?

You still trying hard, aren't you? Okay, so to disappoint you again, logs blackjack.fun provided calculate timezone using this formula: (UTC - User's Local Time). Humbertin as you pointed is from Colombia so his timezone is showing +5 (although it should have been -05:00). Whereas, I am from India so my timezone is showing -5.5 (although it should have been +05:30).

And can you stop this shit until blackjack.fun admin provides so-called personal information evidence (which I am sure was his shot in the dark) so I can conclude this matter. I am giving him benefit of doubt for another day to reasonably explain the ban and credit me additional 1 mBTC as promised (so I can request a withdrawal from the site).

Quote from: Rikafip on December 13, 2020, 09:32:04 AM

Since you claim that this guy Humbertin is from Colombia, isn't that evidence that webtricks and him are not the same persons? I see that webtricks is active in Indian local board and has few posts in Hindu.

Somehow I doubt that webtricks is writing there since 2017 as a part of the disguise.

The language is called 'Hindi, not 'Hindu' but yeah, you are absolutely correct.

Rikafip

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on December 13, 2020, 09:15:26 AM

UTC−05:00 takes in Colombia (which has been established as being Humbertin's point of origin) and Ecuador. (or are people going to say it's UTC+05:00 which takes in Pakistan Roll Eyes

)

Since you claim that this guy Humbertin is from Colombia, isn't that the evidence that webtricks and him are not the same person? I see that webtricks is active in Indian local board and has few posts in Hindi.

Somehow I doubt that webtricks is writing there since 2017 as a part of the disguise.

edit: @webtricks apologies, corrected.