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Quote from: FatFork on January 26, 2021, 05:53:09 PM

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I wouldn't write too many negative things, before you know it he and his friends are going to give you a negative tag that is how pathetic they are usually Grin

OK, just tell me one thing, exactly how many scammers have you exposed and thus helped the community? Or is personal benefit (at all costs) your only goal in this forum?

If I didn't know the meaning of that word, I wouldn't call anyone pathetic.

Paid shills will sell their souls and those of their grandma for a signature campaign, so not expect anything constructive from these users....

Quote from: Cacingkemi on January 27, 2021, 03:24:56 PM

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These wanna be sportsbooks are disgusting

I think what you write is bullshit. Any casino or gambling site that runs on a license from Curaco is required to comply with the KYC. So stake just as well. In addition, Stake has already had problems with its license a few weeks ago. That was also for a reason. If stake.com was a clean site, they would never got any problems with their license. So I think Stake.com is the one that you have to avoid.

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Guys just use stake. Safe no KYC no nothing lol fuck these $2 sports books

Www.Stake.com/LouGambles

Message me if signed up ill even get you guys reloads right away and more vip perks you won’t know what to do with yourself.

These wanna be sportsbooks are disgusting

I think what you write is bullshit. Any casino or gambling site that runs on a license from Curaco is required to comply with the KYC. So stake just as well. In addition, Stake has already had problems with its license a few weeks ago. That was also for a reason. If stake.com was a clean site, they would never got any problems with their license. So I think Stake.com is the one that you have to avoid.

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I wouldn't write too many negative things, before you know it he and his friends are going to give you a negative tag that is how pathetic they are usually Grin

OK, just tell me one thing, exactly how many scammers have you exposed and thus helped the community? Or is personal benefit (at all costs) your only goal in this forum?

If I didn't know the meaning of that word, I wouldn't call anyone pathetic.

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Quote from: JollyGood on January 26, 2021, 04:10:14 PM

Quote from: realscout on January 23, 2021, 11:18:53 PM

how canu know that well if it hasnt been explained anyhow by the team here on the forum. they wrote me this in private. but they havent specified it by the time when they allowed me to use it. i had the permission as it was described in t&c, even if i used vpn connection.

What is the latest with this? How much of your funds have they actually released to you and how much is currently outstanding?

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Did you believe to the things that you write?
You think I will place any bet in this site after what happened to me?

Did they eventually release any of your funds?

The latest with this is that you are also involved in the team of Royse777 and that you are trying to bump this topic you muppet.

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Quote from: realscout on January 23, 2021, 11:18:53 PM

how canu know that well if it hasnt been explained anyhow by the team here on the forum. they wrote me this in private. but they havent specified it by the time when they allowed me to use it. i had the permission as it was described in t&c, even if i used vpn connection.

What is the latest with this? How much of your funds have they actually released to you and how much is currently outstanding?

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Did you believe to the things that you write?
You think I will place any bet in this site after what happened to me?

Did they eventually release any of your funds?

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Quote from: sempak on January 24, 2021, 03:06:21 PM

people who are addicted to gambling play on all sites, even if they have negative experiences somewhere. when someone wants to gamble a lot, that person can no longer think clearly. I honestly don't understand why a few people make such a drama out of it. you gambled, lost a lot of money and you have to blame your own for gambling it and not the site. just forget about it and move on with your life
you are only looking for excuses to get he money back that you wasted with betting

One more clown in forum.

If you did read the topic and my comments you should understand that I didn’t made those bets.

I’m really want to know how much they paid some guy here to place those comments.

You gambled all your money and lost it. So who is the clown here actually?

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Quote from: sempak on January 24, 2021, 03:06:21 PM

people who are addicted to gambling play on all sites, even if they have negative experiences somewhere. when someone wants to gamble a lot, that person can no longer think clearly. I honestly don't understand why a few people make such a drama out of it. you gambled, lost a lot of money and you have to blame your own for gambling it and not the site. just forget about it and move on with your life
you are only looking for excuses to get he money back that you wasted with betting

I understand his frustration. He has lost a lot of money gambling and now wants to get it back. You can always try to blame the site for placing a bet for you. It remains, of course, inappropriate and unethical to blame the site for your gambling addiction. He should continue focus on the feature. Things like this can really drag you out if you keep thinking about the money that you have lost with gambling.

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people who are addicted to gambling play on all sites, even if they have negative experiences somewhere. when someone wants to gamble a lot, that person can no longer think clearly. I honestly don't understand why a few people make such a drama out of it. you gambled, lost a lot of money and you have to blame your own for gambling it and not the site. just forget about it and move on with your life
you are only looking for excuses to get he money back that you wasted with betting

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are you serious right now?
They placed those bets. You are just blind to see that because you're paid by them.

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Don’t forget there are more scam accusation open against them.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5308700

Not quite sure what you want to achieve with your action. You gambled your money, and now you're trying to sue Adkinsbet for not being able to control your gambling. You better just stop gambling if you can't handle gambling, forget it and look ahead in your life. There are many people who gamble with more money than they can afford.

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Quote from: sempak on January 23, 2021, 06:22:18 PM

Quote from: actmyname on January 23, 2021, 06:17:04 PM

Quote from: FatFork on January 23, 2021, 06:09:04 PM

It's a peculiar thing when it comes to ToS changes.
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Oh, but there's more: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56101203

The image damage clause wasn't added until afterwards. Plenty of things were removed or changed which are even more strange.

I'm not a fan of the whole "if it's in ToS then it's OK" attitude that a lot of forum members seem to have. Such a framework lets casinos get away with so much and you have an unbelievable amount of oversight.

regarding the vpn that was stated by fatfork, this was already explained by the site that it was allowed to use vpn on the moment when they had the ddos attack since russia was blocked
after that ddos attack users were able again to login from russia

how canu know that well if it hasnt been explained anyhow by the team here on the forum. they wrote me this in private. but they havent specified it by the time when they allowed me to use it. i had the permission as it was described in t&c, even if i used vpn connection.

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these rules have no legal value. they write whatever is beneficial to them

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So all this negative press that AdkinsBET brought upon themselves just for the sake of scamming the OP out of 0.19622 BTC? If they could have their time again I think they would not bother scamming the OP again.

Did AdkinsBET ever sign any address to show they are solvent? Others including Cloudbet signed wallets in the past to prove they had funds.

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Quote from: sempak on January 23, 2021, 06:22:18 PM

that is true actually what you write, but many sites are doing this.

Wars are justified: many countries do this.

Whataboutism is not relevant to the topic as we are discussing Adkinsbet. If you have a problem with another site, take it up with them in another topic. Don't derail this one.

Should casinos be allowed to change their ToS whenever they want without telling players or without their permission?

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Quote from: actmyname on January 23, 2021, 06:17:04 PM

Quote from: FatFork on January 23, 2021, 06:09:04 PM

It's a peculiar thing when it comes to ToS changes.
-snip-

Oh, but there's more: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56101203

The image damage clause wasn't added until afterwards. Plenty of things were removed or changed which are even more strange.

I'm not a fan of the whole "if it's in ToS then it's OK" attitude that a lot of forum members seem to have. Such a framework lets casinos get away with so much and you have an unbelievable amount of oversight.

that is true actually what you write, but many sites are doing this. it is not really justified to blame only adkinsbet for that
regarding the vpn that was stated by fatfork, this was already explained by the site that it was allowed to use vpn on the moment when they had the ddos attack since russia was blocked
after that ddos attack users were able again to login from russia

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Quote from: FatFork on January 23, 2021, 06:09:04 PM

It's a peculiar thing when it comes to ToS changes.
-snip-

Oh, but there's more: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56101203

The image damage clause wasn't added until afterwards. Plenty of things were removed or changed which are even more strange.

I'm not a fan of the whole "if it's in ToS then it's OK" attitude that a lot of forum members seem to have. Such a framework lets casinos get away with so much and you have an unbelievable amount of oversight.

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Quote from: actmyname on January 23, 2021, 03:01:20 PM

Even discounting the whole ToS change (I still haven't seen any response to my question), it's extremely strange to confiscate a user's funds simply due to VPN usage: is there a problem with keeping your true IP confidential if you are allowed to play and you're providing personal details elsewhere? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It's a peculiar thing when it comes to ToS changes.

For starters, we have this:

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We reserve the right to revise and amend the terms and conditions, including all documents, and information, to which reference is made at any time and to make those changes on the website. You should therefore visit this page regularly to review any changes that have been made. If the general terms and conditions are changed, this will be announced on the page, as well as the date of the modification. If you continue to use the website and the services offered after changing the terms and conditions, you hereby indicate that you agree to the new terms and conditions and will be effective immediately. Bets that have not been settled before the amended terms become effective will be settled on the previous terms and conditions published at that time.

https://archive.is/qrMMO

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anywhere that changes to the ToS have been announced on the page. Second, according to this, all bets (and I assume deposits as well) should be subject to the ToS that were valid at the time, not retroactively.

Then we have the changes regarding the use of VPN:

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5. The use of a VPN / Proxy or other similar connection / technology is not allowed to hide and manipulate your location. You are not allowed to mask, mislead or manipulate your actual location in your country in order to gain access to the site. It is allowed to use a VPN in certain circumstances, as long as you are in a country that allows online gambling.

archive from 20 Dec 2020: https://archive.is/ZIpZ4#selection-367.0-367.357

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5. The use of a VPN / Proxy or other similar connection / technology is not allowed. The usage of a A VPN connection is only allowed if permission is granted individually by Adkinsbet. Therefore, the player should ask permission first.

archive from 12 Jan 2021: https://archive.is/qrMMO#selection-367.0-367.232 (current version)

It is quite obvious that the terms have been tightened to have leverage in this (and similar) cases.

Finally, we have the time and date of the last ToS update:

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16. Recent Terms and Conditions update
Terms and conditions last updated: 04 January 2020, 22:52 GMT+2

https://archive.is/qrMMO#selection-1180.0-1180.1

An honest mistake or an attempt at deception?

Besides, realscout has already presented evidence that AdkinsBet had actually granted him permission to use vpn, which they did not dispute.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56126589

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Be careful Wildan, he already tagged you that you are an alt account of Game-Protect.
I got an idea, if I will change my posting style and defend projects, then I will be Game Protect as well?
Let's hope Royse will have enough free time, since with thse arguments he can tag about like.. 2000 accounts at least. Game Protect nowadays supposed to have a big army lol

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Quote from: realscout on January 23, 2021, 02:41:23 PM

they claim that i used finnish vpn to hide my real location

It's tricky with this VPN rule because the proof from either side (as of now) are merely their statements:

Hard to prove the VPN usage because even mentions of common ipv4 addresses can simply be reduced to claims - it would be easy to take the IP from a known VPN node and claim that it was used.
Hard to disprove the VPN usage since we don't know the exactness of their methods or the validity of their claims - it is difficult to show evidence of lying unless the data was audited independently or sourced from a third party.

Even discounting the whole ToS change (I still haven't seen any response to my question), it's extremely strange to confiscate a user's funds simply due to VPN usage: is there a problem with keeping your true IP confidential if you are allowed to play and you're providing personal details elsewhere? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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they claim that i used finnish vpn to hide my real location, althought i havent used any, and i always used my real ip it was fisrt in my ip list that they had provided so i didnt hide my location, moreover i dont understand why they dont want to return my first deposit as well, and why they dont want to return funds that i won. also they asked me to send them documents for kyc to (!!!) return half of my deposit.

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