Topic: SCAM!!! AdkinsBet scammed me for amount of 196 mBTC in completely blatant way - page 3. (Read 1792 times)
January 18, 2021, 02:03:38 PM
I think Adkinsbet is getting it wrong this way. there are too many accusations now. They don't come out of the blue either. I was a longtime supporter of the site as we only had a few major sportsbook and I liked that a newcomer was joining. now, however, I am starting to have my doubts about it. If they want to save or improve their reputation, they will have to pay the people first.
January 18, 2021, 11:58:27 AM
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Thank you.
things work a little differently here. You are not in a position to set conditions and blackmail. You just stimulated me to give you a neg. tag.
if you want to consider removing negative tags and a red flag against you, first you have to go back all the money and to solve all scam accusations against you.
January 18, 2021, 11:25:26 AM
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
IMO it is best for you to make changes on your ToS, make it more fair on both parties.
Just sayin'.
January 18, 2021, 10:37:49 AM
I add another question.
3. Can you sign a message with a bitcoin address that has a convincing amount of bitcoin to run your gambling business?
For example, once cloudbet or another sportbook was asked to sign a message with bitcoin holding for their business and they were able to sign an address holding 300+ BTC if my memory is correct.
3. Can you sign a message with a bitcoin address that has a convincing amount of bitcoin to run your gambling business?
For example, once cloudbet or another sportbook was asked to sign a message with bitcoin holding for their business and they were able to sign an address holding 300+ BTC if my memory is correct.
I have to concur, this seems like a good idea. Does AdkinsBET even have funds to pay out?
Judging by the way things are going in this thread (namely the attitude several users including AdkinsBET representatives have shown), I am not confident about them signing any address to show they are solvent but maybe they will prove me wrong. Other online betting platforms have done this throughout the years so I hope AdkinsBET will follow suit.
January 18, 2021, 09:21:35 AM
lol i found that email and it turned out that u actually gave me permission to use vpn, although if i recall well i didnt use it at all
https://imgur.com/a/DNg1WxW
also there is a question how are u going to pay winnings if somebody bets 1btc on something as your limits allow it if u wanna return 37 mbtc during 6 weeks
https://imgur.com/a/2rkvZ0I am i the only one curios what the next reason not to pay winnings will be?
https://imgur.com/a/DNg1WxW
also there is a question how are u going to pay winnings if somebody bets 1btc on something as your limits allow it if u wanna return 37 mbtc during 6 weeks
https://imgur.com/a/2rkvZ0I am i the only one curios what the next reason not to pay winnings will be?
January 18, 2021, 09:04:07 AM
this is bullshit about vpn. also my connection didnt change between 1st and 2nd deposit. moreover i told them about where i do live before i registered as i wanted to know if im allowed to play from my country
and they come up with vpn reason 47 days after starting their 'security checks'
what ive done before isnt related to case anyhow as such type of betting couldnt be used in bets i placed at adkins. anybody who has eyes can see it as i attached all my betting history to the accusation
and they come up with vpn reason 47 days after starting their 'security checks'
what ive done before isnt related to case anyhow as such type of betting couldnt be used in bets i placed at adkins. anybody who has eyes can see it as i attached all my betting history to the accusation
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January 18, 2021, 08:27:40 AM
Do yourself a favor and read up on the Trust system. Threats/blackmail/extortion/bribes usually don't turn out very well, and my feedback sure as hell isn't for sale.
You are giving them another chance to come up with another excuse. I believe they are not too dumb to think that we are not bunches of fools. They are trying their last bit in my opinion which obviously will not work from my side too. 
January 18, 2021, 08:12:41 AM
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Do yourself a favor and read up on the Trust system. Threats/blackmail/extortion/bribes usually don't turn out very well, and my feedback sure as hell isn't for sale. This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
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January 18, 2021, 07:19:14 AM
Who is your provider?
Another question, who do the KYC for you?
I asked the above two questions (let's give them number, 1 and 2) before and no answer from adkinsbet yet. Another question, who do the KYC for you?
Now when I read the following (the bold part) :
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
I add another question.3. Can you sign a message with a bitcoin address that has a convincing amount of bitcoin to run your gambling business?
For example, once cloudbet or another sportbook was asked to sign a message with bitcoin holding for their business and they were able to sign an address holding 300+ BTC if my memory is correct.
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This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
None of your moves were correct so far and this adds another one. To bad for your reputation and business if you still are considering to run the business. January 18, 2021, 07:08:54 AM
You are right, it was not the most convenient way for AdkinsBET to have handled this, in my opinion they have made this easy-to-sort-out issue in to a public relations disaster.
And there is no conspiracy going on with DT members colluding so please do not try to take this situation down conspiracy lines that do nothing except detract from the core issue.
I think AdkinsBET asking DT members to remove support for flags before victims will receive just a portion of their funds back is a very low thing to do.
Perhaps not the most convenient way for Adkinsbet to handle it this way, maybe you are right about that. I think they want to do it this way because Royse is a good friend of the op, and they might not trust it that the card will be removed after they release the deposit. Things what actmyname are saying are completeley ridiculous though. I just checked his trust rating, last ratings are 2/3 years ago. How reliable is this guy?
He already made 2 neutral comments in Adkinsbet profile and 1 negative within just 1 week. Do we have to think he is connected to Royse? I pretty much get the feeling he is.
Nice detail that he is the one who made a Spammers shit list. Maybe he could include himself as well after his spamming attitude on Adkinsbet.
And there is no conspiracy going on with DT members colluding so please do not try to take this situation down conspiracy lines that do nothing except detract from the core issue.
I think AdkinsBET asking DT members to remove support for flags before victims will receive just a portion of their funds back is a very low thing to do.
You saying you will refund his deposit periodically based on DT users removing support the flag is nothing but shameful and you have fallen to a new low.
In our ToS was always written that you can not use VPN to manipulate your location. Realscout used VPN to hide his home country, which is not allowed.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Perhaps not the most convenient way for Adkinsbet to handle it this way, maybe you are right about that. I think they want to do it this way because Royse is a good friend of the op, and they might not trust it that the card will be removed after they release the deposit. Things what actmyname are saying are completeley ridiculous though. I just checked his trust rating, last ratings are 2/3 years ago. How reliable is this guy?
He already made 2 neutral comments in Adkinsbet profile and 1 negative within just 1 week. Do we have to think he is connected to Royse? I pretty much get the feeling he is.
Nice detail that he is the one who made a Spammers shit list. Maybe he could include himself as well after his spamming attitude on Adkinsbet.
January 18, 2021, 05:37:08 AM
You saying you will refund his deposit periodically based on DT users removing support the flag is nothing but shameful and you have fallen to a new low.
In our ToS was always written that you can not use VPN to manipulate your location. Realscout used VPN to hide his home country, which is not allowed.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Perhaps not the most convenient way for Adkinsbet to handle it this way, maybe you are right about that. I think they want to do it this way because Royse is a good friend of the op, and they might not trust it that the card will be removed after they release the deposit. Things what actmyname are saying are completeley ridiculous though. I just checked his trust rating, last ratings are 2/3 years ago. How reliable is this guy?
He already made 2 neutral comments in Adkinsbet profile and 1 negative within just 1 week. Do we have to think he is connected to Royse? I pretty much get the feeling he is.
Nice detail that he is the one who made a Spammers shit list. Maybe he could include himself as well after his spamming attitude on Adkinsbet.
January 18, 2021, 05:22:23 AM
You saying you will refund his deposit periodically based on DT users removing support the flag is nothing but shameful and you have fallen to a new low.
In our ToS was always written that you can not use VPN to manipulate your location. Realscout used VPN to hide his home country, which is not allowed.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
January 18, 2021, 05:07:42 AM
In our ToS was always written that you can not use VPN to manipulate your location. Realscout used VPN to hide his home country, which is not allowed.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
Realscout already admitted by himself that he is doing courtsiding, which is simply cheating.
We will release his deposit from 37 mBTC in installments from 5 mBTC weekly.
This will be done to prevent that DT users keep the card active. If DT members could remove their vote on the red card then we will start with the first payment of 5 mBTC.
Thank you.
January 18, 2021, 01:25:22 AM
Here are the archives for the Terms and Conditions if anyone is curious.
I outlined the very noticeable differences in this post, so I won't do the same thing again.
Current ToS
Previous ToS, snapshotted on December 20th of an October 29 update
Don't invoke Terms and Conditions that people have not agreed to and don't change them without having people agree to them. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.
Did they typo the date of updated ToS? It stated for current Tos last updated on Jan 4th, 2020. While previous ToS was updated on Oct 29th, 2020 I outlined the very noticeable differences in this post, so I won't do the same thing again.
Current ToS
Previous ToS, snapshotted on December 20th of an October 29 update
Don't invoke Terms and Conditions that people have not agreed to and don't change them without having people agree to them. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.
January 17, 2021, 04:07:04 PM
Here are the archives for the Terms and Conditions if anyone is curious.
I outlined the very noticeable differences in this post, so I won't do the same thing again.
Current ToS
Previous ToS, snapshotted on December 20th of an October 29 update
Don't invoke Terms and Conditions that people have not agreed to and don't change them without having people agree to them. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.
I outlined the very noticeable differences in this post, so I won't do the same thing again.
Current ToS
Previous ToS, snapshotted on December 20th of an October 29 update
Don't invoke Terms and Conditions that people have not agreed to and don't change them without having people agree to them. That kind of behavior is unacceptable.
January 17, 2021, 03:55:00 PM
If you are saying that you made the OP whole again by sending his deposit back but not his winnings then that is something that is something the majority of the community here will not be able to accept as an appropriate outcome.
~snip
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Can you explain to everyone on the forum why it is always a great solution for all major bookmakers, that they then pay back the money from the deposit?
Then when Adkinsbet wants to refund the deposit, it will not be accepted all of a sudden.
Look of it from a different angle, if someone were to make bets and lose them, would it also be OK for sportsbooks to pay back the losses too? It makes as little sense as not paying out winnings.
Money that's not in your account is not yours, so it doesn't matter how much you initially deposited: If you have X amount of bitcoin right now, you are entitled to receive back X bitcoins fully. Doesn't matter if they came from canceled/suspicious/multiaccounting/VPN bets or whatever.
January 17, 2021, 03:50:13 PM
I think it is a good step forward by AdkinsBET to return the deposit but now they should consider paying the outstanding (or disputed) funds to the OP too. I do not see it being in any way helpful or of benefit to AdkinsBET to drag this out.
If they have made their final decision which is they will not pay the disputed funds then they should post here stating as far as they are concerned the issue is closed.
If they have made their final decision which is they will not pay the disputed funds then they should post here stating as far as they are concerned the issue is closed.
I can no longer see the previous conditions, but if I remember correctly, it was also very clear that you were not allowed to use a VPN to mask your location. Conditions violated, so reason for account closure. What's weird about that? We have seen that example at dozens of sites. The sites are always in the right, except for Adkinsbet, who has to pay for everything and the conditions and the VPN suddenly play no significant role.
I would advise you to think twice before you write something.
I would advise you to think twice before you write something.
January 17, 2021, 03:40:47 PM
I can no longer see the previous conditions, but if I remember correctly, it was also very clear that you were not allowed to use a VPN to mask your location. Conditions violated, so reason for account closure. What's weird about that? We have seen that example at dozens of sites. The sites are always in the right, except for Adkinsbet, who has to pay for everything and the conditions and the VPN suddenly play no significant role.
I would advise you to think twice before you write something.
I would advise you to think twice before you write something.
January 17, 2021, 02:10:04 PM
ToS have been violated after the activity on his 2nd deposit(usage of VPN). We decide to refund the deposit from the 2nd deposit (37 mBTC).
The player has been contacted also on his Email. After this, we consider the case solved.
That's weird, because the ToS didn't have those absolute anti-VPN rules back then. What in the hell are you talking about, Ray?! What ToS violation did he break apart from simply using his VPN? Why are you applying ToS from January 4th onto someone that hasn't played since December?The player has been contacted also on his Email. After this, we consider the case solved.
More importantly: did you tell players that you changed the ToS and have them agree to the new terms?
Here was my reply to the same question from BTCGOLD and it applies to you too.
Thank you for your input in to this matter. I think actmyname addressed the issue you raised. Applying terms and conditions to someone who did something long before the updated terms were introduced is just not correct.
If you are saying that you made the OP whole again by sending his deposit back but not his winnings then that is something that is something the majority of the community here will not be able to accept as an appropriate outcome.
~snip
~snip
Can you explain to everyone on the forum why it is always a great solution for all major bookmakers, that they then pay back the money from the deposit?
Then when Adkinsbet wants to refund the deposit, it will not be accepted all of a sudden.
January 17, 2021, 01:47:19 PM
If you are saying that you made the OP whole again by sending his deposit back but not his winnings then that is something that is something the majority of the community here will not be able to accept as an appropriate outcome.
~snip
~snip
Can you explain to everyone on the forum why it is always a great solution for all major bookmakers, that they then pay back the money from the deposit?
Then when Adkinsbet wants to refund the deposit, it will not be accepted all of a sudden.
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