Topic: scam betting sites (Read 3316 times)

That site is urgh! I hate it!

Looks like Dicebitco.in got caught cheating again.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716312.1600

The claims that your are making here are quite considerable. Thank you for taking the time and making them readable and accessible to the community.

I call for a representative of anonibet to explain their side of the story, as I am sure the community would like to get a full picture of those events.

The board says payout 1:1 and that is how those bets are for Sic bo. It used to be a straight tx id fee and now its almost 70% of your win. It has gone up slowly but surely and the long thig is, sometimes you send your bet and it take 30 mins for it to post, then it takes 1-2hours to get back to you btc account.

So if you bet 0.01 your only going to get paid 0.03.

I caught anonibet scam 4 times..

if u know more scams please post them in my anonibet scams thread

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonibet-is-a-scam-cheated-22-btc-in-their-world-cup-contest-proof-inside-697256

anonibet scam # 1

anonibet had world cup contest with 20 btc prize, 10 btc for first, 5 btc for second, 3 btc for third and 2 btc for unlucky bet

I played in this contest I placed many bets for many days and won 65 points... at that time first place had only 9 points so I had big big lead!

I had to lose 0.55 btc to win so many points but my plan was to lose little to get big prize

anonibet ask me in chat to post my bets in their thread here for contest or else I can not win any prize so I open this account and post my bets here is proof https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7590389

As soon as I posted my bets all of a sudden two complete newbies accounts came in and posted tons of BIG bets, just enough to beat me.

I suspected it was Anonibet playing in their own contest but I had no way to prove it... I knew I have no chance to win them so I stop play... bye bye 0.55 btc...

then after contest was over I found that one of the winners has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info... also his facebook page was open in 2011 when anonibet open... this is the proof that anonibet played in their own contest to keep prize for them.







immediately after I post this scam anonibet deleted this facebook page to hide the scam so I showed cached version on google of original facebook page with anonibet address in contact info!! after anonibet learn they can not hide the past they put the facebook page back up but removed all links to anonibet.com from the contact info... mmm... clearly an over reaction, trying to get rid of evidence... that's what u do when u have something to hide...

now I tell everyone on this scam to revenge anonibet and teach them it is not worth to scam us players!

anonibet say I am paid poster but no one pay me to post I do this to revenge anonibet!

I put 70+ bets with my own money and posted them in anonibet thread before anonibet created new bitcoin talk accounts to cheat me in contest... this is proof that i wanted to play in anonibet contest and not to fight them!

u can see contest winner anonitips create his bitcoin talk account few hours after I post my bets for contest...

anonibet scam # 2

anonibet had 2 btc meme contest in facebook... they changed the rules after the contest was already over and did not award the winnings to the person who was supposed to win it based on the rules that were announced before the contest... that's now a total scam of 22 btc!!!

see here, this guy was supposed to win the prize
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7922994

instead anonibet gave prize to someone else... his profile picture was fake... it is picture u can download from internet... this is proof contest winner was fake facebook account anonibet created it to keep prize to them!

anonibet scam # 3

anonibet did not pay 2btc for unlucky bet... many days after contest people ask why but no answer... after long time anonibet finally say they did not pay 2 btc unlucky bet because the guy who won it also won the contest...

this is another proof that anonibet employee won contest because if he was normal user u think he will not complain and not even ask for prize?

contest rule did not say if u win prize u can not win unlucky bet too...

what happened is anonibet faked paying prizes but they forgot to fake the unlucky bet prize... when someone asked about it they did not say anything they hoped people will forget but more people asked so they made up story...

anonibet scam # 4


anonibet say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!!

i ask for provably fair verification but they keep silent... finally they show paper but this is no provably fair verification!!!

anonibet can use this paper as toilet paper!!

provably fair mean player help make game true random and u can verify game was fair after it is over so casino can not cheat...
read here what is provably fair http://bitcoinreviewer.com/provably-fair/

anonibet is NOT provably fair... i caught them LIE AGAIN... they can cheat if they want... let u win small bets and lose BIG bets...

after anonibet cheat 22btc from me and others in world cup and facebook contests now they look for new fish to scam in casino...

I run a gambling site (http://www.satoshihunt.com)and I know the pain of slow paybacks as it irritates the customers.
For that reason I've argued that for small amounts 1 confirmation ought to be enough.
Big sites like luckybit pay back while still uncorfimed but they have some proprietary algos that make sure their risk remains low.

Why would you say this is a scam?

Could it be that they are just raising the price (which is legitimate) or could they be doing so without letting their users know (scam)?

Also, what do you mean by, slow at sending payouts? Is it so slow that you are concerned they will stop sending payouts altogether?

I would say http://satoshiroulette.com/ is a scam site. They wont per say steal your money but they do at the same time. A 0.001 sic bo bet will only pay out 0.0013 its used to be 0.0019 to cover for the fee. It seems every couple of weeks they have slowly added more price to the fee. So for a bet that should pay close to 1:1 they are paying 1:3. Also it is slow as fuck sending back bets.

Yes sorry my bad..
I would like to make sports betting.

This is a good question. Can you please say what kind of betting you would like to make (dice, games, sports... ) so that others may give you advice?

Proof is what this thread is all about.
The thing is that trying to base anything on writing style, ghosts etc' as well as on incomplete arguments saying someone is a scammer without looking at the cold hard facts will not get us anywhere. Facts are facts and thus cannot be dismissed as coming from anonibet, directbet or anyone else for that matter.

Posts are not deleted here and ghosts can post as much as they want but people will be smart enough to listen to whoever best explains himself and presents the best arguments and above all - proof.

Can you please explain to the best of your ability and as brief as possible, using normal readable font and the best English you can (if you need the help of a friend please do so), so that people can get the point you are making.

In your explanation, please state the following:
1. What was promised.
2. What happened instead.
3. How did the image you posted prove it.

Can you say me a good site for betting using btc?

Most of the time you pretend that your English is bad. Every once in a while you forget and post in perfect English. No one is fooled by you.

Legend

sorry mr peeps place u can not help because u r anonibet solider... u help them SCAM!!!

u also LIER... I never advertise any company in your thread I only post to warn people on anonibet because they cheated me and u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scams!

Legend - I'll ask again otherwise this is a mute point. If I can post all information that Anonibet has on you then I will reopen the case. They claim that you are some way connected to DirectBet.

You have made posts that are untrue concerning this case. I'm not going to proceed further without consent. Here is a quote by Anonibet.



Since there have been new sign ups that come in with the sole purpose of promoting DirectBet, I delete all promotional material from DirectBet

peeps place U LIER I answer all your messages u never ask to look my account...

u told me u will down grade anonibet if I post anonibet scam in your thread but after I did that u delete all my posts to hide anonibet scam...

I hear they pay u to shut up... u think we stupid???

I put 70+ bets on anonibet with my own money to take lead in world cup contest... I post all bets in anonibet thread and immediately after that anonibet send employee to beat me to keep money for them...

BUT!!! anonibet employee forgot to delete anonibet logo and address from his facebook page!!! 

that's how I catch anonibet SCAM!!!

look anonibet contest winner has facebook page with anonibet logo and address in contact info...

peeps place talk blah blah blah I give REAL PROOF!!!

The Anonibet contest was thoroughly looked into to find out when players signed up at bitcointalk, when they opened accounts at Anonibet and their bitcoin wallet addresses to check payment history. I asked about their betting history. The poster here Legend is the only one that failed to give permission to access any of his information.

Legend's statement about two of the accounts being newbie accounts is untrue. Anonibet has stated that they have information showing that Legend is linked to DirectBet. I told Legend if he allowed me to look into the information that Anonibet has obtained I would open up the case again. Legend has refused.

anonibet scammed me and others 22 btc in world cup and facebook contests...

i opened scam thread with proof https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anonibet-is-a-scam-cheated-22-btc-in-their-world-cup-contest-proof-inside-697256

not only me see their thread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7845634

now after this they look for new fish to scam in casino... they say their casino is provably fair... BUT IT IS NOT!!! i ask for provably fair verification but they dont have it..

i try to report also in peeps place list but he delete my posts i think he help them scam!

Has anybody used http://www.badbitcoin.org/ to get a certificate of proper use ?

The accusations were made by ghosts/shills from DirectBet on a daily basis. Now that DirectBet doesn't post as much anymore, he has stopped using ghosts/shills and the complaints have stopped.

Can tou provide any kind of proof?

Or perhaps link to the source of your claims?

And what about Anonibet? I heard them to be accused of being scam site too.

This is great news indeed. If no one else has anything to say against them, I will remove them from the "Inconclusive" list and move them to "archive" with a reference to your post.

that's great

They are paying for who got cheated (skipping nonce) by DiceBitCo.in
They explain everything clearly 

Hope they will re-gain a positive trust in this forum
when the time has come

I got re-funded in full by dicebitco.in.

OP edited for the first time to summarize the debate as it stands now.

Please help this thread grow and tell others where you have been duped.

You do not have to limit yourselves to dice sites, this thread is here for your protection!


I can assure you that I have no personal interest in dicebitcoin or in the field of dice in general.

Trying to discredit it does the crypto community a disservice.

I join you in your call to list more sites here, as I am sure that their are plenty more to report.

You are of course right, the link you wrote does not lead to PD. However, please note the extra dot in the url I wrote(dicebit.co.in), that makes all the difference.

Here is the answer to all scam accuisations :  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-dicebitcoin-announcement-about-the-skipped-nonces-incident-789339

User also in question here, Stars,  if kindly can confirm if he got credited all his winning nonces as well(he was one of the guys who got affected even with positive profit!)

https://dicebitco.in/ does not lead to PD.

Why there is no new information about any other scam casinos? lol
Maybe this thread was created by any of dicebitcoin competitors with only reason - to decrease reputation of their brand?!

or there is really none of "scam" brands left?

Which of these sites work onchain and are marketing as provably fair ?

I see that dicebit.co.in have no one to speak for them so I will take you on your word unless proven otherwise.

The only problem here is that their url leads to primedice, and so it could discredit them for no good reason (especially for newbies). How would you suggest I add them to the evil list in a way that is not harmful towards primedice?

I bet on dicebit.co.in, I was doing anywhere from 0.1-4 BTC bets on 10x payout, and when ever I was due to win the nonce would skip and give me a different number causing me to lose. I verified all my bets where the nonce skipped and they were all winners. If their code wasn't rigged, I would have walked away with 61.8 BTC. So yeah, I'd appreciate it if you could include them on your list. I can provide proof if needed.

Noted this was only link that i found randomly on every day reading.

I have received answer from their manager through email:


I`m not trying to protect dicebitcoin brand reputation or anything like that, but lets wait and analyze all the facts from both sides, before we will make any crucial decisions.

Good luck mate

Helps the newbies too!

List is filling slowly.
Can you all, post some article or some text about this like in my post.

pls 10x all

Can you please explain why you believe engaging in an illegal distributed denial of service attack is a good idea?

I personally do not think it is. If you have a problem, there are more reasonable and legal ways to deal with them.

Bitbook gave players a 7 day window to withdraw funds. The window was extended to 10 days. Some players did not read the forum during this 10 day window and were not paid.

 Most sportsbooks will have problems with DDoS attacks. Sometimes the attackers will ask for a ransom to discontinue the attacks. All of the big fiat books have gone through it. It's up to the book to fix the problem.

Everybody that is not working on the chain can scam its customers.

My suggestion is to use sites that work on the chain with zero trust and provably fair, that is the bitcoin way.

LOL. Bitbook was the most reliable book. They gave all users an opportunity to withdraw funds before they were forced to shut down from DDOS.

Can we add Peeps Place to the scam list? This guy is a riot

Great idea.

I will only post that a website is fraudulent if sufficient proof  is present.

First example:
Will be added to evil list.
http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million is sufficient proof.

Second example:
Link leads to primedice which are pretty solid. Unless you can bring more evidence of malpractice, I will not include them in the evil list.


Thank you, this is exactly what I am trying to do here.

This topic is a very good idea it will help to avoid more scams from this websites maybe some admin can pin that topic

Sportsbooks

Bitcoinlivebets
Blockbet
StakeBTC
Bitcoinsport
Bitbook
Coinbet

Predicted next to go under:
Webetcoins
Betbanks (it's not the book but the agent Don)

Predicted to go under after the NFL season:
DirectBet


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/1-ratings-of-bitcoin-sportsbooks-since-2014-kyc-rankings-bonuses-scam-accus-717790

Dicebit.co.in.

Great Awesome idea!!! I was really shocked with DiceBitco.in as they have purchased unique review on our website around 2 weeks ago. I`ve tried to contact their manager in skype to get any comments about that scam article about dicebitcoin, but still have not received anything yet.

I will check your post as often as possible. Good luck!

Wow this sux. This gambling site need to be ddos

Hehehe when i enter this site it says PROFIT: -296.17561886

I totally agree with you
if you want to create list lest start with this

http://www.coinfinance.com/news/dicebitco-in-unmasked-as-a-scam-as-casino-steals-over-3-million

if you think you can manage this create a list with this.
Site name article or blog post for that site and so on.....

good luck with this if intend to keep it going.

I am making a list of every betting site that closed after stealing the coins of all of its users.

Post here every site that you know of (mtgox also counts in my book).

Also post the websites you suspect as next in line to bail with users funds, state that it is only a suspicion and not a site that ran away with coins.

Lets make BTC bets a safer place for us all.


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Edited Section:

Evil list:

Empty for now (help us protect ourselves against scams - fill the list!)


Inconclusive:

1. shibaroll:

No opposition yet

2. dicebitco.in:
against-
(Mind that two very similar url's lead to different places - dicebit.co.in leads to Prime Dice (well established) whereas dicebitco.in is under discussion here)

3. anonnibet:
yet no proof has been shown or linked on this thread