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Is it officially confirmed that tokens will start being distributed from tomorrow?
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.

Let me get this straight, Private investors will buy UNSOLD TOKENS. That was the agreement. They can't buy during ICO because token sale is still ongoing not a single KEP token is tag as UNSOLD YET during those time. We will only know if there is an unsold token AFTER the ICO.

considering the hard cap is so high, there will definitely be unsold tokens. so private investors will get a piece of the pie. I don't mind as I'd like to see this project succeed.

That is a good news to the community as it will be a win-win situation for everyone. Enough funding will ensure high probability for success of the project.
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After the Long discussions we decide following:

1.  As you all know the main idea behind community building stage is NOT to gather money, but to gather active community / supporters
2.  We decide to cut Community building stage into 3 different stages.

6 Feb – with the Bonuses 70%
13 Feb – Bonuses 60 %
20 Feb - Bonuses 50 %

3.  The limitations are 0.05 – 10 ETH

4.  Special Prizes – For each stage That who contributes 9-10 ETH will get free tour to Georgia, accommodation, Tours to the city / Kepler Labs / Kepler Infrastructure.
+ will meet Kepler team. + 3 day Tour to Gudauri / Georgian Ski Resort (Tour will be in MAY)

—------— We make this to show how we value your support —---------

5.  The community building stages can end in the first day with two main reasons
- all tokens got sold out
- 1000 + Participants

6.  We will upload smart contract on Github tomorrow where you can review it and make your amendments
Tokens sold during the community building stage – 1 500 000

1,500,000 tokens, how much is one token, including that 70% bonus? Also, I want to ask, why a huge bonus like that? Because of the 10 ETH cap?

High Bonuses is Because kepler need to build active community and the Bonuses are compensation for those members who are active.


The bonus was reduced to 50% 45% and 40%

And the 1.5m token allocated for community building token sale is only .5 % of the total supply
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.

Let me get this straight, Private investors will buy UNSOLD TOKENS. That was the agreement. They can't buy during ICO because token sale is still ongoing not a single KEP token is tag as UNSOLD YET during those time. We will only know if there is an unsold token AFTER the ICO.

considering the hard cap is so high, there will definitely be unsold tokens. so private investors will get a piece of the pie. I don't mind as I'd like to see this project succeed.

Is unsold tokens for private investors only? How can you know if that private investors will never join the ico sales? Because I think they can buy in ico sales without knowing them. How would you know details about the participants?




Please backread a little bit, this has been asked before and was answered accordingly.
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After the Long discussions we decide following:

1.  As you all know the main idea behind community building stage is NOT to gather money, but to gather active community / supporters
2.  We decide to cut Community building stage into 3 different stages.

6 Feb – with the Bonuses 70%
13 Feb – Bonuses 60 %
20 Feb - Bonuses 50 %

3.  The limitations are 0.05 – 10 ETH

4.  Special Prizes – For each stage That who contributes 9-10 ETH will get free tour to Georgia, accommodation, Tours to the city / Kepler Labs / Kepler Infrastructure.
+ will meet Kepler team. + 3 day Tour to Gudauri / Georgian Ski Resort (Tour will be in MAY)

—------— We make this to show how we value your support —---------

5.  The community building stages can end in the first day with two main reasons
- all tokens got sold out
- 1000 + Participants

6.  We will upload smart contract on Github tomorrow where you can review it and make your amendments
Tokens sold during the community building stage – 1 500 000

1,500,000 tokens, how much is one token, including that 70% bonus? Also, I want to ask, why a huge bonus like that? Because of the 10 ETH cap?

High Bonuses is Because kepler need to build active community and the Bonuses are compensation for those members who are active.
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.

Let me get this straight, Private investors will buy UNSOLD TOKENS. That was the agreement. They can't buy during ICO because token sale is still ongoing not a single KEP token is tag as UNSOLD YET during those time. We will only know if there is an unsold token AFTER the ICO.

considering the hard cap is so high, there will definitely be unsold tokens. so private investors will get a piece of the pie. I don't mind as I'd like to see this project succeed.

Is unsold tokens for private investors only? How can you know if that private investors will never join the ico sales? Because I think they can buy in ico sales without knowing them. How would you know details about the participants?
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.

Let me get this straight, Private investors will buy UNSOLD TOKENS. That was the agreement. They can't buy during ICO because token sale is still ongoing not a single KEP token is tag as UNSOLD YET during those time. We will only know if there is an unsold token AFTER the ICO.

considering the hard cap is so high, there will definitely be unsold tokens. so private investors will get a piece of the pie. I don't mind as I'd like to see this project succeed.
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I recently heard about this project. I was impressed by this platform - it really opens the door to the future. There are a lot of implementation options, this makes the project promising

May I ask where you heard about this project . Among crypto communities of mainstream news
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I recently heard about this project. I was impressed by this platform - it really opens the door to the future. There are a lot of implementation options, this makes the project promising
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.




Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?


This is a nice question. How to know? The honest answer is, there's no way of knowing. So what will be the difference in ICO and private sale? The difference is if you buy in ICO your single purchase is capped. So that would be difficult if your planning to buy worth 200M USD right?

Can you check, if someone isnt impersonating with multiple accounts? Its easy to create 5 wallets, split 100eth on them and pay max 20eth per account and gather it all in a final wallet.


I'm sure measures can be placed to avoid those that you said. The one that I have in mind now is to cap a single eth wallet address to participate with 30 eth, that would be enough I believe. With that contribution consolidation is impossible.

Thanks, that sounds like a good idea! Just trying to think ahead a bit, to adjust and estimate the upcoming problems, also for customers.
Will you publish a list of the top contributors/coinholders? To see who is currently "in power" or will those information be confidential?




Of course. That is standard in all legit projects nowadays   Smiley
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.




Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?


This is a nice question. How to know? The honest answer is, there's no way of knowing. So what will be the difference in ICO and private sale? The difference is if you buy in ICO your single purchase is capped. So that would be difficult if your planning to buy worth 200M USD right?

Can you check, if someone isnt impersonating with multiple accounts? Its easy to create 5 wallets, split 100eth on them and pay max 20eth per account and gather it all in a final wallet.


I'm sure measures can be placed to avoid those that you said. The one that I have in mind now is to cap a single eth wallet address to participate with 30 eth, that would be enough I believe. With that contribution consolidation is impossible.

Thanks, that sounds like a good idea! Just trying to think ahead a bit, to adjust and estimate the upcoming problems, also for customers.
Will you publish a list of the top contributors/coinholders? To see who is currently "in power" or will those information be confidential?
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.

Good point! Why do investors delay their investment? Completely abstract is for me that they don't want to buy tokens cheaper but more expensive! After all, ICO is organized for investors, right? Can someone explain this nonsense?



I've answered the same question already a few pages back. Thanks.
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.





Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?




This is a nice question. How to know? The honest answer is, there's no way of knowing. So what will be the difference in ICO and private sale? The difference is if you buy in ICO your single purchase is capped. So that would be difficult if your planning to buy worth 200M USD right?

Can you check, if someone isnt impersonating with multiple accounts? Its easy to create 5 wallets, split 100eth on them and pay max 20eth per account and gather it all in a final wallet.




I'm sure measures can be placed to avoid those that you said. The one that I have in mind now is to cap a single eth wallet address to participate with 30 eth, that would be enough I believe. With that contribution consolidation is impossible.
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.





Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour our tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

Already many people are showing interest towards the project, so you have to give chance to the people who are supporting the project. Mostly projects like Kepler has good competition in the market, so the price of KEP will increase new heights.
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.



Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?
Because you have to pass the KYC first to invest there.

I guess KYC is mandatory for Private sale and ICO both. Isn't it?



KYC is mandatory in ICO.  If there are still unsold tokens, private investors will have to fill up the KYC too because that's the law. Anyone who will get their hands on KEP tokens will have to do KYC.
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.





Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?




This is a nice question. How to know? The honest answer is, there's no way of knowing. So what will be the difference in ICO and private sale? The difference is if you buy in ICO your single purchase is capped. So that would be difficult if your planning to buy worth 200M USD right?

Can you check, if someone isnt impersonating with multiple accounts? Its easy to create 5 wallets, split 100eth on them and pay max 20eth per account and gather it all in a final wallet.
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.





Let me get this straight, Private investors will buy UNSOLD TOKENS. That was the agreement. They can't buy during ICO because token sale is still ongoing not a single KEP token is tag as UNSOLD YET during those time. We will only know if there is an unsold token AFTER the ICO.
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Activity: 756
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.





Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.

You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?




This is a nice question. How to know? The honest answer is, there's no way of knowing. So what will be the difference in ICO and private sale? The difference is if you buy in ICO your single purchase is capped. So that would be difficult if your planning to buy worth 200M USD right?
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Activity: 756
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Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.

I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.





Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
This is more makes sense.
So the conclusion is this ICO is more about an oppotunity for community to join / participate in this big project rather than just an opportunity for the team to get some funds because actually its already guaranteed by the private investors?




Yes, our aim is maximum community participation that's why we are in the blockchain for DECENTRALIZATION. 
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I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.

Really? Can you give us a source? Would like to know where this information is coming from
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