Topic: [SCAM] KEPLER - Next Generation Blockchain Platform For AI & Robotics🚀 - page 194. (Read 68736 times)
February 14, 2018, 12:05:45 AM
I heard a news that there are some private investors who want to buy the tokens more than the price of ico, my question is why and how the team is allowing it.
February 13, 2018, 11:56:20 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?
I guess KYC is mandatory for Private sale and ICO both. Isn't it?
February 13, 2018, 11:42:32 PM
This is one of the more advance blockchain application that I have so far read. Somehow it is too complicated to comprehend and way over future implementation but I believe this has a great potential. I will include this on my portfolio.
February 13, 2018, 11:32:43 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?
February 13, 2018, 11:22:02 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
You have a point, but how to know if that whales will not participate in the ico sales? I am sure a lot of them will join the ico. So what will be the difference in ico and a private sales?
February 13, 2018, 10:59:57 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour of tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
So the conclusion is this ICO is more about an oppotunity for community to join / participate in this big project rather than just an opportunity for the team to get some funds because actually its already guaranteed by the private investors?
February 13, 2018, 10:44:41 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Ladies and Gentlemen, if we let private investors first, how many tokens do you think would be left for the community? These are large private investors, there's no way in hell these guys would buy just 1 or 5 eth worth of KEP Tokens right? If we let them in first I am pretty sure a big chunk of that token pool will be taken by them. Now the question is, what about our aim of DECENTRALIZATION? That thing is gone if we let this whales devour our tokens before our community. I hope you guys get me on this.
February 13, 2018, 10:35:35 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
What prevents these private investors from buying your tokens right now during the ICO? Why will these whales wait until the end of the ICO and then buy tokens at a higher price than one can buy now?
Because that is what was agreed upon.
Ok, could you explain this like i would be 5 years old, because it doesn't make any sense to me at this point and i don't think i am alone at this.
If i was one of those private investors there would need to be reason like a position in the firm for me or something else to for me accepting to buy premium over ico price
So i am asking what they are getting from this deal and why would they agree on this kind of arrangement when they can get them now cheaper?
I already answered the same question above, kindly back read a bit. Thanks.
February 13, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
We all know that we are in the different world compared to the later tradition way of living. The technology become a part of the society and as well as our life. And now, here it comes the new project which is in the way of trend, the Kepler. Kepler is a tech startup network powered by the blockchain. It seems interesting very a powerful platform. I want to see more about this project.
February 13, 2018, 10:29:37 PM
Why do you have no links on your media page?
I clicked all 23 links, just to see that none of them is working.
Are these links real or only a fool?
I clicked all 23 links, just to see that none of them is working.
Are these links real or only a fool?
We will start a massive PR campaign on Feb.15 and in preparation with all the articles that will be written about us we prepared those media links. As of the moment, we disable all the links pending the actual write-ups for us. We will enable those media links once we have the articles ready and linked. Thanks
February 13, 2018, 10:24:38 PM
Well you seem to have massive plans. First thing that came to mind from “Kepler City - Hotel and Restaurant Network" was the AI Raven hotel from Altered Carbon -series in netflix 
. Hopefully your bartenders will be cool like that.
. Hopefully your bartenders will be cool like that.Kepler City is what I love, We even have the design of projects.
Can you imagine sitting at the table and watching how your dinner is being cooked by the Robot hands? ))
as long as they wash their hands first
I am excited with this project to happen. Imagine, an artificially Intelligent Robots serving people...But maybe this is how it is.. The future.
We would all like to see fast development of AI and robotics but i really hope you will do it step by step and wont rush to it. We saw a lot of projects with huge ambition who bit off more than they could chew.
IT's a very big and ambitious project..
How many people are in the team.. i've seen a video with only 2 guys.
We have videos in telegram where you can see our top executives introducing Kepler to the world. And we have 1 video also where our CEO and 3 others in a car going to the land where we will built our Mega Factory along with other Kepler facilities.
Could you please post these on Youtube as well?
The video was already posted on youtube. I also posted it here, you can back read a little bit and you will see it.
February 13, 2018, 10:22:41 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
What prevents these private investors from buying your tokens right now during the ICO? Why will these whales wait until the end of the ICO and then buy tokens at a higher price than one can buy now?
Because that is what was agreed upon.
I don't see the point why anyone would want to buy tokens on higher price?
With HIGHER it doesn't mean a big price disparity. Our ICO price is 1.25$ if they were offered 1.30$ and be part of something revolutionary what is that price difference right? If they envisioned KEP tokens to go 10$ each in the future, that's a small price to pay if you ask me. These people are different they are rich because they can see beyond what most can. They think out the box and they see a solution out of a pile of problems. They see opportunity when others see a dead end.
February 13, 2018, 10:14:29 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
alright. am I right in saying that in that case, no matter what happens, you will reach the hard cap?
Yes. But we would prefer if our community will be in a large part of that 250M USD hard cap than the private investors. That is why we have this crowdsale.
okay thats great news and understandable. diversifications is everything. nobody wants to be ruled by a few big investors
Yeah, if we bring in Bill Gates that won't be much fun right? Because he will get the largest slice of the pie and we will be relegated with just bread crumbs
Thanks for the consideration on general public . Bread crumbs distribution was a good move for decentralized equal wealth distribution
Your welcome. Since day 1, it's always been the mindset of Kepler to empower our community more than anyone else.
My question is what will happen if all tokens are sold out during the ICO? Would the private investors be still interested if the token price goes up in exchanges? Assuming they all believe in the project's potential...
If we hit our mark and got ourselves 250M USD. These private investors can still invest in our project with their fiat money. I see no problem with that. The more money we can get our hands on the better for the project. You have to consider this project is a sucker for RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT money and R and D doesn't come cheap you guys know that.
What will you offer them in return?
The tokens which you won't sell in the ico?
No, it's not that we won't sell them any token, the question being asked is IF all the tokens got sold. And that was my reply.
I agree that the more money they can get, the development of the project will able to obtain their goal and most probably, if all tokens got sold, still they can consider private investors to invest in the project because the more investors means success of the project and " what can they offer to the investors in return?" that is the question.
Any idea?I didn't get this. If there is not token left and they are not getting anything back, why are they putting their money into this?
Let's say we are in a casino and I am gambling so, I have my money and put it on a bet. You like what I'm doing and you are so sure I will win and so you decided to put a side bet. Those private investors are putting some side bets on top of what is already there. But let me clarify this, the agreement is, they will buy what is left (unsold tokens) so it's just my personal opinion that, there's really no problem I see if someone with fiat money decides to piggyback his money on us. I'm sure kepler and those private investors can work out a win win solution on that. But if the deal sway more in favor of the wales, I'm sure we will make do of that 250M USD and foregone those private investors.
February 13, 2018, 09:39:35 PM
Judging by the road map, the project is long-term. I like the idea of your project.
I will take part in the Bounty for a start. Good luck.
I will take part in the Bounty for a start. Good luck.
Have you got a link to the bounty thing?
February 13, 2018, 09:18:52 PM
This is definitely something new and interesting. Its a great way to promote robotics while keeping transparency and decentralisation. Giving investors new opportunities for investing.
February 13, 2018, 08:33:23 PM
Why do you have no links on your media page?
I clicked all 23 links, just to see that none of them is working.
Are these links real or only a fool?
Some people have already complained because of these fakelinks, they wanted to think about it, but so far nothing has happened, not wise in my opinion.I clicked all 23 links, just to see that none of them is working.
Are these links real or only a fool?
The crypto space defenily has a higher % of fake links/sites/chats. I guess the unexperience of people is what the scammers are looking for
That's the problem of semi-anonymous payments
February 13, 2018, 08:17:08 PM
what will happen to the unsold tokens if there will be any?
i dont know, i hope they will be bunrned or back to the investors?
I have seen some projects giving away free unsold tokens to the investors but I feel it's wrong because they already have a stash of coins. Unsold tokens should always be burnt so that the present token value will be increased.
Depends on how many tokens you have sold, if you sell 10% of the tokens I don't think that that's always a good idea to burn them, you'll have liquidity's problems
Hmm burn or give away ... either way is good in my opinion.
. I believe they will solved it in the good way for both investor and Kepler team.they should talk to private investor to buy token at this time, at least after community building. and, they can re-planning unsold token for burn or airdroped to token holders (investor only maybe, not include bounty participant). it will bring more trust for us.
February 13, 2018, 08:06:13 PM
what will happen to the unsold tokens if there will be any?
i dont know, i hope they will be bunrned or back to the investors?
I have seen some projects giving away free unsold tokens to the investors but I feel it's wrong because they already have a stash of coins. Unsold tokens should always be burnt so that the present token value will be increased.
Depends on how many tokens you have sold, if you sell 10% of the tokens I don't think that that's always a good idea to burn them, you'll have liquidity's problems
Hmm burn or give away ... either way is good in my opinion.
. I believe they will solved it in the good way for both investor and Kepler team. 
February 13, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
Guys, we will not burn any token if there's some left. The reason for this is, some private investors have already agreed to come onboard, and they are willing to buy those unsold tokens higher than the ICO price. Look, our hard cap is 250M USD that figure is not your normal average hard cap that you see every day. Although we are confident that we will hit that target on our own (with community's help) but in an unlikely scenario where we fall short of our goal this is where the unburned tokens will save the project from scrap and cancelation. Case in point, after crowdsale and we only got 200M USD the unsold tokens worth 50M USD will be divided among all private investors. So instead of just burning it and get absolutely nothing out of it, we made something productive out of it. Guys, you have that this project is high tech, it needs tons of money to develop. So we will need all the money that we can muster.
I hate being the antagonist but why would any investor choose come in late for higher cost when they can at a cheaper price point? I understand you need tons of money for this project. Let's hope you can raise it or else that poor private investor will have to make do with left overs.
Good point! Why do investors delay their investment? Completely abstract is for me that they don't want to buy tokens cheaper but more expensive! After all, ICO is organized for investors, right? Can someone explain this nonsense?
Let me quote a previous reply. Just for everyone knowledge, many private investors would want to buy all unsold tokens in fiat money, and those private companies have agreed and will not dump those tokens in the market because they are into this for the long term. You have to consider these are companies, not private individuals. An example is Hualing Group and private Investors from Russia.
February 13, 2018, 07:53:23 PM
Oh my god, i see them hiring a bounty assistant and telegram community manager nearly, and i find out this topic Only 2 week ago and have many attention, because of AI & Robotics. Awesome!
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