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There is a possibility that scammers:
JollyGood, vlom, thunderjet working on a coin mco.
And since she was unable to issue cards anywhere except in Singapore, then for her it would be tantamount to pick up in the middle of the road.
Well, there is still the likelihood of these trolls working on a Paycell coin, which also has not been able to do anything out of cards for a year. There is no video in YouTube. I can even claim it. Facts - my assumptions. Let's start from this, from my conjectures.
It is very likely that they are paid to conduct investigations around the clock, as they say they have no investment in coins, but nevertheless work hard against minexcoin and republia (already former), which has already been funded in its 50 million, but nevertheless, these trolls claim that it is a scam. That is, those people who signed a contract for such an amount are so stupid that these trolls at the head of JollyGood, vlom, thunderjet can give them a head start. They are much smarter than a company with 20 years of experience. Where is she (PaxNet) before some headless trolls JollyGood, vlom, thunderjet. These are professionals with a big bull, which is in the ass ...
Morons JollyGood, vlom, thunderjet - do not disgrace. I understand that you bought accounts on the forum. But your statements are as moronic as confirmed.
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Now their censored thread shows:  This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (4 posts by 4 users deleted.)

So 4 users have had 4 posts deleted since the system to display deleted posts was implemented and at 20 - 30 posts before that must have been removed.


They have deleted my posts also. Cards still dont work. No whitepaper just nothing from them for over a year. Safe to say they will exit scam as soon as Instabuy is empty.

I am not sure about the exit plan yet. They still have maybe between 10 and 30 cards they sent out. The cards are useless, worthless and without doubt they are trying to buy time for Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others.

Their "instabuy" is one way to make more money. Much of that money was diverted to Republia and of course was used to help fight the Court cases that Borys have been involved with regarding tax evasion and fraud.

They have not elaborated why they sent the third party cards out after claiming they were "tested" and "fully working" but it seems none of the cards are working:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49363486

Furthermore they claim they are still testing... it is so pathetic  Roll Eyes



There are a lot of chances that Minexpay/Chain2pays Upaycard payment cards will never work as they should or wont work at all and not just that it is illegal scheme where Minexpay/Chain2pay is using UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard. Problem is much deeper. Upaycard owner, company Moorwand Ltd, had a bank account and did all bank business via small Danish bank Kobenhavns Andelskasse.

This bank started to have serious problems in March/April 2018 due to illiquidity so Danish state had to intervene.Danish state financial agency, Finansiel Stabilitet took control over bank Kobenhavns Andelskasse at 13th Septemeber 2018.They found that bank has almost no assets ,so it has to go in bankruptcy process, where all depositors can get only 100.000 Euros per account,as a state guarantee measure.

At the same time ,users of Upaycard services started to report serious problems with money withdrawals in all forms. Upaycard started to stall,making all possible excuses,especially demanding already verified customers to give them a whole bunch of additional documents and when customers did it, they decilned them due to any possible reason,playing back and forth game with customers.You can find a lot of serious compaints about it on Sitejabber Upaycard review(plus few obvious positive bot posts). Another serious problem is that Upaycard provides services to unregulated Forex and binary option brokers which scammed a lot of users,so users demanded from UK regulatory agency FCA to shutdown Moorwand ltd, Upaycard owner.


https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08491211 - Moorwand ltd ,owner of Upaycard register data

https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/community/threads/algotechs-and-bealgo-withdrawal-issues.58437/page-2 - Upaycard Andelkasse bank account number

https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/upaycard.com#reviews - Site Jabber Upaycard reviews

https://kbh-andelskasse.dk/finansiel-stabilitet-initiates-measures-to-resolve-koebenhavns-andelskasse-control/ - Kobenhavns Andelskasse bank document about taking control of bank by Danish financial state agency














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Now their censored thread shows:  This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (4 posts by 4 users deleted.)

So 4 users have had 4 posts deleted since the system to display deleted posts was implemented and at 20 - 30 posts before that must have been removed.


They have deleted my posts also. Cards still dont work. No whitepaper just nothing from them for over a year. Safe to say they will exit scam as soon as Instabuy is empty.

I am not sure about the exit plan yet. They still have maybe between 10 and 30 cards they sent out. The cards are useless, worthless and without doubt they are trying to buy time for Borys and his inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar, yurez83, akira128 and a few others.

Their "instabuy" is one way to make more money. Much of that money was diverted to Republia and of course was used to help fight the Court cases that Borys have been involved with regarding tax evasion and fraud.

They have not elaborated why they sent the third party cards out after claiming they were "tested" and "fully working" but it seems none of the cards are working:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49363486

Furthermore they claim they are still testing... it is so pathetic  Roll Eyes

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minexcoin-minexpay-5090539: "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (2 posts by 2 users deleted.)"

I posted their censored thread and had my post deleted. I am not the only one.




https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49363486::
Hello,

Please don't worry about the news, you can keep in touch just to follow our officiall chanells.

The first batch of cards has already been sent, some functionality is already working and now we are under the testing proccess. Depends on the result of testing we are going to start full work.

Approximately time will be known later, but we will definitely announce that in our official channel.


So it means cards are "not" working  Grin

Did anybody make any purchase with these scam cards? They send them out and then say "The first batch of cards has already been sent, some functionality is already working and now we are under the testing proccess. Depends on the result of testing we are going to start full work. Approximately time will be known later"

What a joke. What a scam.

They have deleted my posts also. Cards still dont work. No whitepaper just nothing from them for over a year. Safe to say they will exit scam as soon as Instabuy is empty.
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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minexcoin-minexpay-5090539: "This is a self-moderated topic. If you do not want to be moderated by the person who started this topic, create a new topic. (2 posts by 2 users deleted.)"

I posted their censored thread and had my post deleted. I am not the only one.




https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49363486::
Hello,

Please don't worry about the news, you can keep in touch just to follow our officiall chanells.

The first batch of cards has already been sent, some functionality is already working and now we are under the testing proccess. Depends on the result of testing we are going to start full work.

Approximately time will be known later, but we will definitely announce that in our official channel.


So it means cards are "not" working  Grin

Did anybody make any purchase with these scam cards? They send them out and then say "The first batch of cards has already been sent, some functionality is already working and now we are under the testing proccess. Depends on the result of testing we are going to start full work. Approximately time will be known later"

What a joke. What a scam.
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this is a good enhancement is think.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minor-selfmod-enhancement-5099378
although it does not show how many post have been deleted before.


It is good first step to prevent scammers from total abusing self moderated threads. Making a clearly visible link for a log of deleted posts will be even better.
legendary
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this is a good enhancement is think.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/minor-selfmod-enhancement-5099378
although it does not show how many post have been deleted before.
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bump because they are still active.


Yes they are.After locking Russian thread they are now in full cenzorship mode.Total blackout. There were not so much opposition to them on the russian thread,but nevertheless they put it in self-moderated (censored) mode. Mine opinion is they do it in advance,because they are expecting things to go bad soon.

Cards have not been activated yet,partly because it is very complicated to make functional ,close to realtime web wallet platform,when you have so many artificially intermediaries in the process and partly because they are aware that after activation, clock is start ticking against them until eventually they would be discovered and cards cancelled so they want to launch as many as possible cards at once which will give them more time to milk this cash cow before the bitter end.

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bump because they are still active.
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The lying OP of that thread (naska21) said you "apologised and your apology was accepted" therefore the thread was locked.

I think he must be heavily involved in the Minexsystem/Minexcoin/Minexpay scam and probably suffered huge losses like his best friend temhuk who mortgaged his property to get money to put in to Minex, therefore he just wanted to create some problems for those of us that are trying to expose these evil scammers at Minex.

He wasn't lying about the appology:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49017539

Which was the right thing by mr.pacy.mf to do. He clarified what he meant and apologized for the misunderstanding.

But I suspect the thread was closed because it was causing scrutiny for the project.

It is the typical story. People think they can complain in META and that their story will be accepted without investigation.
Often when people post in META with a complaint there is an ulterior motive and stuff they haven't disclosed.

I believe that the old thread was closed down because @thunderjet did an awesome work exposing Boris Shulyajev's other businesses and how they are failing. Tax evasion, court cases against boris companies for not delivering on paid work ( suprise suprise ). Demolition man became a blockchain entrepeneur. What a joke.


I have obtained more informations about Boris construction companies which will shed some more light on the question why Boris is almost always choosing path of making shady partnerships with some obscure guys, which leading in more or less serious illegal doings against the law.

Two of Boris companies in Ukraine, one construction and one demoliton, were involved in 30 lawsuits - FC BUD in 23 lawsuits( 7 as plantiff and 15 as defendant, 1 is unclear) and Domostroy-7 in 7 as defendant. All lawsuits agains FC BUD are conducting on Business court due to some breaking of contracts, not paying for equipment ,etc.. Also,there are 7 lawsuits against his company Domostroy-7, all criminal, one for participating in the tax evasion ring of 23 companies(already published)  and one for running fictitious company(on the bottom of picture below ) . Unfortunately, didnt succeed to find more informations for other 5 criminal lawsuits.


These are info and links( use Google Translator for English or some other language translation ):

https://vkursi.pro/card/36529767 - FC BUD company data

https://vkursi.pro/card/39486496 - Domostroy 7  company data








Behaviour has been seen in running Minex,especialy dealing with payment card program(false contract with CSOB bank , picking Novarise Secrecy scammer as card program manager and UAB Kristolinis Dugnas as false company for Upaycard cards), is not nothing unusual,but unfortunately part of Boris business practice.




Additional news - Minex has been locked its thread on Russian at Bitcointalk. On that thread they had almost complete dominance,but they decided to lock it too. Instead they opened new, self-moderated thread.

Theirs rapidly increasing intolerance to the slightest opposition is a very bad sign and based on different scams from the past, Minex project is accelerating into the full scam phase.



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1849692.15760  - Minex thread on Russian(picture below is translated to English via Google translator)





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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.







Prepaid card link to E-wallet,available in EEA country

What if i dont want to link the prepaid card to Ewallet?


Then ,you cant use the card. All money comes first to e-wallet ,than you can transfer further to the card, bankwire, another user....

You will never get access to yours e-wallet on Upaycard( exactly your sub-account) ,because then you will be able to sell yours cryptos directly and avoid all additional "special" Minex web wallet exchange rates and fees. Such thing Boris will never allow.



What i really want to point out is that the E-wallet is opional for business card,you can design your wallet and provide the card worldwide.... They way i understood it but you can ask upay support for further info.

And part of the feature of business card you can have your own card design

E-wallet is not optional, it is necessity. You cant avoid it ,because it is central part of Upaycard system. All you can do is to put that all money you receive goes automatically on your card.

But you cant do that,because Boris is controlling your sub-account on Upaycard and as I said before, he will never allow you access to it ,because you will be in position to avoid his Minexpay wallet ,additional fees and bad exchange rates.

E-wallet options are Upaycard options and you cant avoid its limitations. Upaycard has license from Mastercard only for EEA zone and you cant change that or avoid it legally. Boris falsified documents of customers out of EEA,but there is price for that illegal doing, plus he didnt achieve nothing with it ,because Mastercard and Visa are monitoring location of card using too. Not only cards will be cancelled ,but he will be reported to government authorities. Using UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account wont shield him,because there are already too much proofs that he is real user of UAB KD account.

No, you cant change design of business card,because every design change needs approval from Mastercard and separate agreement with card manufacturer.Not at one card issuer,including Upaycard wants do it for a single customer.Also you cant get your logo on card if you are not card issuer. Sometimes card issuer gets approval to issue cards in different colours,but design remains same.


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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.




http://i65.tinypic.com/28gxrhl.jpg


Prepaid card link to E-wallet,available in EEA country

What if i dont want to link the prepaid card to Ewallet?


Then ,you cant use the card. All money comes first to e-wallet ,than you can transfer further to the card, bankwire, another user....

You will never get access to yours e-wallet on Upaycard( exactly your sub-account) ,because then you will be able to sell yours cryptos directly and avoid all additional "special" Minex web wallet exchange rates and fees. Such thing Boris will never allow.



What i really want to point out is that the E-wallet is opional for business card,you can design your wallet and provide the card worldwide.... They way i understood it but you can ask upay support for further info.

And part of the feature of business card you can have your own card design
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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.







Prepaid card link to E-wallet,available in EEA country

What if i dont want to link the prepaid card to Ewallet?


Then ,you cant use the card. All money comes first to e-wallet ,than you can transfer further to the card, bankwire, another user....

You will never get access to yours e-wallet on Upaycard( exactly your sub-account) ,because then you will be able to sell yours cryptos directly and avoid all additional "special" Minex web wallet exchange rates and fees. Such thing Boris will never allow.


Exactly.

Borys and Minex scammers will not allow their MNX token holders go directly to Upaycard to add money on to their card. The customers still can do it (there is a way)

If Borys allows customers to go directly to Upaycard the it means there is no need for Minex.

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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.







Prepaid card link to E-wallet,available in EEA country

What if i dont want to link the prepaid card to Ewallet?


Then ,you cant use the card. All money comes first to e-wallet ,than you can transfer further to the card, bankwire, another user....

You will never get access to yours e-wallet on Upaycard( exactly your sub-account) ,because then you will be able to sell yours cryptos directly and avoid all additional "special" Minex web wallet exchange rates and fees. Such thing Boris will never allow.

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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.




http://i65.tinypic.com/28gxrhl.jpg





Prepaid card link to E-wallet,available in EEA country

What if i dont want to link the prepaid card to Ewallet?
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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country



Not true. Both , personal and business card are only for residents of EEA zone.








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Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone

Upay business card can be issue worldwide only personal card is available to EEA country
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I check upay business card features and i found this @thurderjet do you know what it means?

PAYROLL OPTION

The low cost, convenient way to pay employees, affiliates and clients through our state-of-the art payroll feature.

Does that mean business card can be issue to client?

Sure, business card can be issued to your clients,but Minexpay users are not clients,but customers. Clients are definition for company business partners.(example - company wants to pay its lawyer for his services) Wink

Second, cards can be issued only to employees,affiliates and clients from EEA zone,but Minexpay users are customers and vast majority of them is out of EEA zone, plus Minexpay are illegaly using UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS account on Upaycard, which is not violation of Upaycard and Mastercard rules and regulations, but serious violation of AML laws.

Dont forget, Minexpay could not give Upaycard to his customers other than to falsify that they are UAB KD employees and even more serious,Minexpay falsified place of residence for customers which are not from EEA zone. Such violation will lead to immediate cancellation of cards and sending informations to appropriate governement authorities due to Upaycard Terms of Service:







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 I check upay business card features and i found this @thurderjet do you know what it means?

PAYROLL OPTION

The low cost, convenient way to pay employees, affiliates and clients through our state-of-the art payroll feature.

Does that mean business card can be issue to client?
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