Topic: SCAM: MinexPay crypto debit card by minexpay.com / Minexcoin - page 34. (Read 30729 times)

In my opinion the summary of the credit card debacle is this:

1) They attempted to set up a bank and become an issuer but don't have the skills to do so. The existing banks, central banks and AML legislation and international agreements make it hard for crypto startups to link into fiat facilities.

2) They set up an indirect way to enable cards:

- Used an "associated" company "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" to allpy as a consumer for a common prepaid credit card (fiat only) scheme with an unrelated company "Upaycard" to provide a rechargable gift card for their "employees"
- Used an "associated" company "Chain2Pay"to exchange the crypto for fiat to fund the prepaid credit cards.

My understanding is that:
It is effectively a rechargable gift card where "Chain2Pay" sells the crypto held by the user and sends fiat to "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" to pay the "Upaycard" balance.

It is a far stretch from being a "Minex" credit card.

YESSIR
and the atm machine where they made their "test" was owned by ING bank which is sued for money laundry since september
 

Minex last medium post only confirmed what I said earlier - Minex went rogue completely. They simple do not care any more for laws and regulations at all.

It also confirmed too that Boris and his team are unscrupulous but not so smart. They are stupidly go where no one company gone before  

Illegally using UAB Kristolinis Dugnas account on Upaycard,they didnt break just Mastercard and Upaycard regulations but AML laws.

Using other(shell) company account as cover for a third company is a definition of money laundering.

https://www.gfintegrity.org/issue/anonymous-companies/

read the op.

News:
Now they are sending cards. See at the end of this post.
But

Quote from: TeMHuK on January 02, 2019, 06:22:26 PM

That is business type card. You don't need to provide ID in store for such type of cards.


Summary

There are three options summarized.
1. They try to scam and do so in a very stupid way.
2. They are just too stupid and too naive to keep their promises.
3. They pretend to be stupid to cover up

You have to read this to believe it..... The title from Minexcoin saying "Great News" is nothing of the sort.

Take a closer look at the Medium release. It does not mention "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" and it does not explain why the cards will not be in the name of the "customer" who sent in his ID such as passport, drivers licence and bank statements.

The Medium release does not explain what relationship "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" (the company that all non-Minexpay branded cards are in the name of) has with Minexpay/Minexcoin/Minexsystem or Chain2Pay or Borys

Minexcoin account earlier wrote "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" was an affiliate of Minexpay. The scammer website terms and conditions make no mention of "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS". It mentions Chain2Pay and says it is not responsible for the card. Strange.

The key words "affiliate", "chain2pay", "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" do not appear in the scammer Medium release.

The Medium release mentions 45% parking rates but their desperation is obvious as they try to gain new gullible customers.

They ganged together to report his posts en-mass in the hope to get him banned. All mr.pacy.mf did was to throw back the same comments at temhuk as what temhuk said to me and several others including towards mr.pacy.mf

I concur with your opinion but people are here shouting scam which can't really help at all

I suspect what has happened with Minexcoin: (My opinion from what I have read)

1) They didn't intend to scam from the outset. It probably was a genuine project.
2) They tried to raise funds and didn't meet the target.
3) They tried to meet the development targets.
4) Things turned out harder and more expensive to make, while the funds they raised in crypto became worth less.
5) Skilled people left the project
6) Banks are making it difficult for any Crypto project to get access to fiat banking services.
7) The project came under extreme pressure to meet targets while the market cap was reducing.
8] An attempt was made to obtain card services of sorts to at least stop some of the criticism.
9) The failed attempt to obtain card services makes the project look more dodgy.


At the end of the day - the credit cards appear that they not obtained through a legitimate channel. (From a card issuer according to their terms)

People lost substantial amounts of money.

No real progress appears to have been made.

I also noticed that all the photos I have seen appear to be posed. I don't know many companies that have posters on stands in their offices identifying it with their brand. It make me think the offices may have been a short term rental or temporary offices as part of a crypto conference.

Yes I know that, you know that even the Minex scammers know it along with their inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar,  yurez83, akira128 and others.

Sadly the problem is most investors do not know about this scam.

The first they will know is if they are active in this forum or when their cards are cancelled or when their ID is used in illegal ways against their consent.

It is likely that most of the deleted posts are for consecutive posting. (My guess)

It is against the forum rules to make more than one post consecutively in a thread.
If you want to add more to the thread and no-one else has made a post yet since your previous post then just edit your previous post and add the comments.

EDIT:

Forum rules
Common rule violations resulting in deletion and/or ban

Problem is far deeper than that. Minexpay/Chain2pay did multiple law and regulation violations :

- made a deal (illegal) with UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to present theirs customers as UAB Kristolinis Dugnas empoyees

- made a deal (illegal) with UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to provide false residence documents to theirs non-EEA customers,without it they could not get Upaycards

- made a deal (illegal) with UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS to get full access to its Upaycard business account

It is not only against Upaycard and Mastercard regulations,but against financial laws itself.  When this little scheme be discovered it will awfully look like a money laundering to the authorities.

I dont think so that Minexpay and UAB KS really fully understood seriousness of consequences of theirs acts.

thanks for info ....I'm bad with writing English...I hope that I have explained well and comprehensively there all my reasons

@thanks JollyGood

THE DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE

All the innocent investors who wanted a Minexpay branded card have sent off their ID (we are talking about private and sensitive documents such as passports, driver licences, utility bills, tax returns, bank statements, credit card statements) to the Minex and Republia scammers.

Now these Minex scammers have shared the private and sensitive documents such as passports, driver licences, utility bills, tax returns, bank statements, credit card statements with UAB Kristolinis Dugnas.

Already at least three "companies" and all their associates have the private and sensitive documents such as passports, driver licences, utility bills, tax returns, bank statements, credit card statements of investors who just wanted a Minexpay branded card - and they never even got those.

Instead of receiving a Minexpay branded card all these investors got was to be registered and listed as being employees of some company called "UAB Kristolinis Dugnas"

And in the end ALL the UAB Kristolinis Dugnas cards will be cancelled by Upaycard as soon as they discover the truth about the scam that Minexcoin/Minexpay/Minexsystem orchestrated and was helped to take off by it being spread via propaganda by the inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar,  yurez83, akira128 and others.

The inner circle scammer alliance consisting of Temhuk and Racquemis1 along with paid trolls such as Jedgar,  yurez83, akira128 and others get together and start reporting the same posts. I had so many of mine deleted too where I presented evidence but hardly any of the posts where these scammers used disgusting language and swear words and trolled and attacked were deleted.

Welcome back mr.pacy.mf

They were trying hard to to get you permabanned https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49002190

I was baned for seven days....most of my posts have been deleted by administrator on the main topic....90% of my posts were evidence and facts related to the topic...killing truth and censorship will not help them

It is unbelievable that scammers and paid trolls such as yurez83 continue to spread propaganda even after they have been exposed.

Minexpay/Minexsystem/Minexcoin has lied to Upaycard saying that UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS cards were going to employees but in reality they are going to "customers" that do not work for this scam.

 

Now the farce goes on because as stated there is no mention of "UAB KRISTOLINIS DUGNAS" in the terms and conditions.


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A pathetic response from the "official" Minexcoin account.

They call it an "affiliated company" but the whole thing is a joke. Minexpay/Minexcoin/Minexsystem and Chain2Pay have no contract with Mastercard or any of its card program managers.

Minex will not be able to get a licence therefore they approached Upaycard and lied to them saying they wanted cards to give to their employees 

Yes both scams are run by the same group. Both are going to fail.

Effectively the truth is the Republia scam is the same as the Minex scam and the Minex scam is the same as the Republia scam.