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Topic: [scam tag request] user unclescrooge founder and operator of bitfinex.com - page 5. (Read 18283 times)

myself

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chaos is fun...…damental :)

i go to sleep now and tomorrow i am out so don't expect any reply's soon

simonk83

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Man, I should have put MPOE-PR on ignore so long ago. My bad, but consider that rectified. What a dick.

myself

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chaos is fun...…damental :)

I only give up 5% to 20% I did never give up the whole 25%

and yes i told you if you want my 20% that's the price take it or leave it

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I don't want to read anymore that we steal your forum licence (this is wrong, we bought everything back to VBulletin and third parties, and it's a shame as we could have bought it from you if you were only open to discussion)

when i made this thread that was not the case

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I don't want to read this kind of false accusations

bullshit

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From - Wed Apr 03 15:37:44 2013
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Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 15:37:35 +0200
From: myself <[email protected]>
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To: Raphael Nicolle <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Tang Insurance
References: <CAG4Gv-LRZc0_GxXCpT2syafiK9mfZXw8zG5-3PsVUE3i97NZmA@mail.gmail.com> <CAG4Gv-JSZoHFqGLLS2y3DcUwJK5Ztojdbu4BKjex_a_DczscoQ@mail.gmail.com>

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On 03.04.2013 15:04, Raphael Nicolle wrote:
> Just a confirmation to answer your question "Myself": we lend MrTang
> the money to buy the forced executed. He will have a negative balance
> until he sells the bitcoins he has and/or repay the difference should
> the price go even lower.
>
i dont like that ....also why dont you lent me 150k lol

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Just a confirmation to answer your question
   "Myself": we lend MrTang the money to buy the forced executed.
   He will have a negative balance until he sells the bitcoins he
   has and/or repay the difference should the price go even lower.div>



   i dont like that ....also why dont you lent me 150k lol



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unclescrooge

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Ianov FARSACIU,

Let me recapitulate the whole story:

We agreed on a contract, where you would be giving advices to me, in exchange for 10% of profit. You would not participate in the decisions, nor in the losses. This is a consulting contract with remuneration based on performances.

And so for months, I paid 150+ btc to cover bugs to users, paid thousands of euros for incorporation,... You didn't put a dime, fair enough, it was the contract. You acted as an advisor/consultant.

Now come other associates which I gladly invited to the team. They don't want a crypto-anarchist project, they want a serious team, they don't want a joke of a contract, they want legal papers. They came in April, a month during which we lost quite some money with the Big Crash. So at the end of the month, we agreed to cover all losses, if we were to be associates. You refused it, and stated that you only want to share profit and will never take any losses. By doing this you confirmed that you want a consulting contract, not be an associate. So we proposed you, and multiples times since then, to tell us what you were looking in term of remuneration for a consulting collaboration. You never answer to this. You just came yesterday asking us 5000 BTC so you can leave the team. After which I cut you access to the read-only part of the admin side of Bitfinex (what would you expect?).

there was never money put in that was not going to be paid. If our associates which you met, and you now how wealthy they are, weren't there, there would be no more Bitfinex. They allow us to pass a hard time of 5 figures losses, and now be strong as we are.

Now Ianov, I'm sorry we have come to this. I'm sorry you refused to discuss at all, I'm sorry you were paranoid from day 1, just to end up creating some thread on a forum to do what? You know, and I believe everyone knows, that I am really open to discussion. I mean fuck it's been a month since I asked you to state the kind of contract you want with us, and explained you that you are not, and never acted as, an associate. I believe this is a reasonable time to discuss things.

Now as I said, we are not a crypto-anarchist project but a real team with a project in the real world for the future, and we are doing things as a company do. That means that if you push us to do something, we won't create a thread on a forum. I hope the message is clear.

I don't want to read anymore that we steal your forum licence (this is wrong, we bought everything back to VBulletin and third parties, and it's a shame as we could have bought it from you if you were only open to discussion), I don't want to read that we credit money that doesn't exist, I don't want to read this kind of false accusations.

MPOE-R you still don't get how Bitfinex matches user position with real funds of lenders and doesn't act as a bucket shop, and it's a shame from you.

For everyone, sorry to have this dirty laundry in public. If you feel uneasy and want to withdraw your funds from Bitfinex, please do.

Best regards
Raphael
Bitfinex team

nrd525

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There doesn't appear to be any duration terms specified in Myself's agreement.

I think a better written contract would have a duration or process for ending it.

ssbtoday

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myself u are a scammer

myself

legendary

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chaos is fun...…damental :)

@MPOE-PR if you want any reply from me make short and to the point questions atm i am not in a state to deal with with long+spin+god_know_what posts

MPOE-PR

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myself

legendary

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Merit: 1000

chaos is fun...…damental :)

why I don't want to put money for the loses bitfinex have

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Preliminary observations on Bitfinex.com losses.

Because of  our former agreement I'm protected by any loses generated in
bitfinex.com, I request that our former agreement has to be respected.
All this problem concerning the losses I think that is a strategy to get
rid of me "simply", without me you wouldn't have had the the same amount
of clients "we both have access to google analytics and we can see the
traffic generated through chatzy, where I talk to lots of traders and
they've been attracted to use our platform, besides that all the
information and promotion I did and do on the forums" and the platform
it wouldn't be the same and probably it couldn't be existing any longer,
because it was a bucket shop.

Regarding the losses there are a few key points that you should
understand, even though I'm not forced to be participant on the losses.
1. The losses are not settled every month the losses are settled at the
end of the fiscal year.
2. To know the exact amount of losses is required an external and
neutral audit for all the bitfinex accounts.
3. Besides that is required an audit for the entire bitfinex platform,
the platform tempered/adjusted twice, first with mister Tang and was
credited from him 150.000 USD, that he didn't deposit in his account,
the second time when mister Devasini was credited one million dollars,
money that he didn't have deposited in his account. Because of this I
cannot be sure if the current losses are real or not.
4. You are the only operator of the bitfinex platform and you let the
platform to lose money on purpose, you have been notified concerning
problems with the MTGOX platform, these losses are not generated by
mistake or by incompetence, you knowing it and let this happen and you
didn't want to stop it.

Because of all these points and the reasons exposed above my trust level
is extremely low and any decision regarding my financial interest in
Bitfinex. will be made after consulting other people.

--=20
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myself

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chaos is fun...…damental :)

the agreement part

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myself is granted an access to the data exposing the financial situation of the website www.bitfinex.com. He can access these data any time he wants

and

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myself will receive a financial compensation of 10% of the profits of the previously mentionned website, every month

and

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should financial results be negative, myself won't pay nor receive anything for these negative months

R and the other investors insist that i need to pay for BFX loses and my agreement clearly say i do not have to put any money if there is a loss and this agreement was made previous to the join of investors just when there was R and me

using this strategy to push me out of BFX and to take my part away now that all the BFX logic is sound, there is a new market that there was not before on bitcoin world, the lending for leverage.

first agreement

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I agree with the following terms of the contract
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after that agreement when BFX got incorporated i got a 25% share on BFX and then got diluted to 20% so investors get in BFX also

myself

legendary

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chaos is fun...…damental :)

i lost my log in access emails

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did u change something to my bitfinex.com/admin [email protected] i
cant log in anymore

--=20
Bye



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did u change my admin log in ? bitfinex.com/admin [email protected]
i cant log in anymore

--=20
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i got this in reply

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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:58:07 -0700
From: "Raphael Nicolle" 
To: [email protected]
Message-ID: 
In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: admin log in
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Hello,

I'm currently away until the 18th of June.

For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact:
Giancarlo Devasini 
J.L. van der Velde 

Best regards,
Raphael
Bitfinex team

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Hello,
I'm currently away until the 18th of June.

For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact:
Giancarlo Devasini <[email protected]>


J.L. van der Velde <[email protected]>

Best regards,Raphael
Bitfinex team





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so i decide to send a email from other email address

Code:

From - Mon Jun 03 23:28:04 2013
X-Mozilla-Status: 0003
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
Return-Path: 
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        for 
        (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
        Mon, 03 Jun 2013 14:03:54 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:03:53 +0200
From: Ioan 
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Raphael Nicolle , 
 Raphael Nicolle 
Subject: admin log in
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did u change my admin log in ? bitfinex.com/admin [email protected]
i cant log in anymore

but this time i get a manual reply

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X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
Delivered-To: [email protected]
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In-Reply-To: <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
	<[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:24:37 +0200
Message-ID: 
Subject: Re: admin log in
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_NICOLLE?= 
To: Ioan 
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Hello,

I'm currently away until the 18th of June.

For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact:
Giancarlo Devasini 
J.L. van der Velde 

Best regards
Raphael NICOLLE
Bitfinex team



On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ioan  wrote:

> On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:
> > did u change my admin log in ? bitfinex.com/admin [email protected]
> > i cant log in anymore
>
>
> hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply bullshit   remember
> tomorrow there is a deadline
>

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Hello,
I'm current=
ly away until the 18th of June.

For all matters re=
lated to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact:
Giancarlo Deva=
sini <g.devasi=
[email protected]>

J.L. van der Velde <_blank">[email protected]>

Best regards=
Raphael NICOLLE
Bitfinex team

v>


On Mon,=
 Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ioan <@bitfinex.com" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]> wrote:>px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:

> did u change my admin log in ? arget=3D"_blank">bitfinex.com/admin m">[email protected]

> i cant log in anymore





hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply bullshit =A0 remember>
tomorrow there is a deadline




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and ofc i see that this is bullshit

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Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:25:40 +0200
From: Ioan 
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To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_NICOLLE?= 
Subject: Re: admin log in
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> 
In-Reply-To: 
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this email come from Raphaël NICOLLE  the other one
come from [email protected]

so bullshit


On 03/06/2013 23:24, Raphaël NICOLLE wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm currently away until the 18th of June.
>
> For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact:
> Giancarlo Devasini >
> J.L. van der Velde >
>
> Best regards
> Raphael NICOLLE
> Bitfinex team
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ioan > > wrote:
>
>     On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:
>     > did u change my admin log in ? bitfinex.com/admin
>      [email protected]
>     
>     > i cant log in anymore
>
>
>     hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply bullshit   remember
>     tomorrow there is a deadline
>
>


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    this email come from Raphaël NICOLLE
      <[email protected]> the other one come from
      [email protected] 

      

      so bullshit 

      

      

      On 03/06/2013 23:24, Raphaël NICOLLE wrote:

    

    cite="mid:CAEG5Az5uYVPxz0yTDiXmPqeeHjgSQyzG_5w7HTp-CdMhvBHXSw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      
      
        Hello,
          

          

          I'm currently away until the 18th of June.

          

          

          For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex,
            please contact:

          Giancarlo Devasini <              href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]>

          J.L. van der Velde <              href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]>

          

          

          

          Best regards

          Raphael NICOLLE

          Bitfinex team

          

          

        

      

      

        

        On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ioan             dir="ltr"><              href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]>
          wrote:

          
            On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:

            > did u change my admin log in ?               moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bitfinex.com/admin"
              target="_blank">bitfinex.com/admin               moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]

            > i cant log in anymore

            

            

            hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply bullshit
              remember

            tomorrow there is a deadline

          

        

        

      

    
    

  


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the reply

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From - Mon Jun 03 23:34:53 2013
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X-Mozilla-Keys:                                                                                 
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:34:45 +0200
From: myself 
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To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rapha=EBl_NICOLLE?= 
Subject: Re: admin log in
References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]>  
In-Reply-To: 
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is all or nothing=20

or i get all or i get nothing

On 03/06/2013 23:33, Rapha=EBl NICOLLE wrote:
> Hello,
>
> You refused to discuss our losses while now Bitfinex is not just me
> and all associates reached an agreement, like you did not propose to
> lift 1 btc when I reimbursed 150+ btc to our users since the start of
> Bitfinex (yes i know, as in the contract, but a contract doesn't
> prevent you to participate). Now I exposed you some alternatives
> because I don't wanted this contract anymore, and this is up to you.=20
>
> Please discuss it with Jean-Louis as with his email, my time will be
> limited in the next 2 weeks as I'm taking some well-deserved time off,
> only providing limited support to users.
>
> Thanks for your comprehension
> Raphael
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Rapha=EBl NICOLLE > > wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     I'm currently away until the 18th of June.
>
>     For all matters related to the interest of Bitfinex, please contact=
:
>     Giancarlo Devasini >     >
>     J.L. van der Velde >
>
>     Best regards
>     Raphael NICOLLE
>     Bitfinex team
>
>
>
>     On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM, Ioan >     > wrote:
>
>         On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:
>         > did u change my admin log in ? bitfinex.com/admin
>          [email protected]
>         
>         > i cant log in anymore
>
>
>         hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply bullshit =20
>         remember
>         tomorrow there is a deadline
>
>
>


--=20
Bye


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    is all or nothing  

      

      or i get all or i get nothing 

      

      On 03/06/2013 23:33, Raphaël NICOLLE wrote:

    

    cite=3D"mid:[email protected]=
l.com"
      type=3D"cite">
              charset=3DISO-8859-1">
      Hello,
        

        

        You refused to discuss our losses while now Bitfinex is not
          just me and all associates reached an agreement, like you did
          not propose to lift 1 btc when I reimbursed 150+ btc to our
          users since the start of Bitfinex (yes i know, as in the
          contract, but a contract doesn't prevent you to participate).
          Now I exposed you some alternatives because I don't wanted
          this contract anymore, and this is up to you. 

        

        

        Please discuss it with Jean-Louis as with his email, my
          time will be limited in the next 2 weeks as I'm taking some
          well-deserved time off, only providing limited support to
          users.

        

        

        Thanks for your comprehension

        Raphael

      

      

        

        On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:24 PM,
          Raphaël NICOLLE <"true"
              href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">raphbot=
@gmail.com>
          wrote:

          
            
              Hello,
                

                

                I'm currently away until the 18th of June.

                

                

                For all matters related to the interest of
                  Bitfinex, please contact:

                Giancarlo Devasini <                    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank=
">[email protected]>

                J.L. van der Velde <                    href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">j=
[email protected]>

                

                

                

                Best regards

                Raphael NICOLLE

                Bitfinex team

                

                

              

            

            
              
                

                  

                  On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22=

                    PM, Ioan <                        moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blan=
k">[email protected]>
                    wrote:

                    
                      On 03/06/2013 23:03, Ioan wrote:

                      > did u change my admin log in ?                         moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
                        href=3D"http://bitfinex.com/admin" target=3D"_bla=
nk">bitfinex.com/admin
                                              href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla=
nk">[email protected]

                      > i cant log in anymore

                      

                      

                      hey you forgot to add this email to the auto reply
                      bullshit   remember

                      tomorrow there is a deadline

                    

                  

                  

                

              

            

          

        

        

      

    
    

    

    --=20
Bye

  


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myself

legendary

Activity: 938

Merit: 1000

chaos is fun...…damental :)

please note the following
i am extremely mad
and my English is very bad

this post will be updated

term many time used
unclescrooge= Raphael= R
urwhatuknow=Giancarlo=G

this is happening live here is a list of thing that did happen recently

1) is got my bitfinex admin login revoked
2) i got my admin access revoked https://community.bitfinex.com/member.php/1-Myself yes the forums license was mine (and still is mine)
3) R try to avoid me by filtering my emails and sending me auto reply emails that he is on vacation

broken agreements
1) read only access to BFX
2) the agreement that i wont take any loses from BFX (i dont have to put money for the loses on BFX)
3) payment of dividend at the end of the month ( other share holders got money i did not) BFX did pay a 10 000 USD dividend for the month of may

i know many people put the trust on me and they put money in BFX because of that, since tonight I lost my read only access and I cant keep a eye on their money

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