Topic: [SCAM]LEDU CAMPAIGN - page 3. (Read 964 times)
Why do projects order bounty campaigns from third parties in 2020? In the majority of cases, it ends badly for both of the parties.
Here is what happened with LEDU.
They hired me to run their signature ad campaign.
Paid me for first month. No issues
They (Ledu team) Agreed to pay for the 2nd month & asked me to start asap.
I started the campaign & sent the payment address for 2nd month.
they sent the tokens for participants, when i asked about my payment. they stared giving excuse (Checking with team etc)
The CEO SAID they don't give a shit on Bitcointalk flags or Bitcointalk.
I paid the participants the tokens for 2nd month as they send the payment for participants & didn't get the my payment for 2nd month. which is 1k USD. The CEO sent some threating PM a few months ago & i blocked him. Now I really don't give a fuck about the payment now & the flag will stay after all of this.
They hired me to run their signature ad campaign.
Paid me for first month. No issues
They (Ledu team) Agreed to pay for the 2nd month & asked me to start asap.
I started the campaign & sent the payment address for 2nd month.
they sent the tokens for participants, when i asked about my payment. they stared giving excuse (Checking with team etc)
The CEO SAID they don't give a shit on Bitcointalk flags or Bitcointalk.
I paid the participants the tokens for 2nd month as they send the payment for participants & didn't get the my payment for 2nd month. which is 1k USD. The CEO sent some threating PM a few months ago & i blocked him. Now I really don't give a fuck about the payment now & the flag will stay after all of this.
Update - Everyone Received their token (Deducted transaction fees)
Tx- https://etherscan.io/address/0x129e28db2bc5eae7454df8ba8e194929c52bbd72#tokentxns
Best Regards
Murat
Tx- https://etherscan.io/address/0x129e28db2bc5eae7454df8ba8e194929c52bbd72#tokentxns
Best Regards
Murat
What surprises me though is that such an experienced bounty manager accepted campaign without getting money up front, or at least escrowed it.
That surprised me too that he didn't get paid upfront. Well, may be his payment was to be in two parts — Bitcoin and the project token, and they did pay him only the project token leaving out that of Bitcoin. But if at all they didn't pay him any, that will be poor negotiation on Murat's part. However, the good thing about the whole situation is the escrow part and this is why every BM should have projects' tokens escrowed to them as part of the negotiations. Good one, Murat. All isn't lost at all.It could be that case, but as you have said Murat is an experience bounty manager so he knows what he is doing. And the moment that he was screwed by the campaign, then he called them scammers and the community supported him. So I'm sure that LEDU tokens will slowly break into pieces and won't be a success because of this accusations. So in the end, it was not Murat lost, but the project itself.
What surprises me though is that such an experienced bounty manager accepted campaign without getting money up front, or at least escrowed it.
That surprised me too that he didn't get paid upfront. Well, may be his payment was to be in two parts — Bitcoin and the project token, and they did pay him only the project token leaving out that of Bitcoin. But if at all they didn't pay him any, that will be poor negotiation on Murat's part. However, the good thing about the whole situation is the escrow part and this is why every BM should have projects' tokens escrowed to them as part of the negotiations. Good one, Murat. All isn't lost at all.
It is most likely that they aren't going to do anything about the project since looking at the above scenario, they'll scam their investors too. Murat did a good job with managing and still sending the tokens but I doubt those tokens will have value after this incident.
Supported the flag.
Supported the flag.
This isn't the first time I'll see this happen to a project bounty manager. They always think they are smart. Now the bounty manager has to pay for gas fee for a token that may worth nothing.
A project that violates agreement shouldn't be trusted. They deserve the negative tagging.
A project that violates agreement shouldn't be trusted. They deserve the negative tagging.
I agree to provide evidence of some of their conversations or
Let's just wait. Im sure Murat will clear things off and do this when its time. I bet he still with some discussion on the team to fix or come up with arrangement. Title should be changed to scam instead of possible scam because he scam manager Murat he worked with the project to maximize the promotion so it can attract investors then left him without acknowledging his effort, investors should be aware of this kind of action.
Ive already explained in the context. I put possibly cause as Ive talked with Murat he still on negotiation with the team and still trying to settle the score on his payment. What if they paid him? Should I put scam all the way? Anyway I will update it once Murat told me or inform here that there is no chance. Dont worry, I will make sure everyone aware of this case.legendary
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A project which excuses to pay the campaign manager can not be a good project (it's not a big amount for project IMO). Actually, sometimes some managers agree to keep in risk his own management cost but always keep secure the bounty participant's payment. And when a project the bounty token upfront, in this case, it's it's common that manager thinks maybe they will no do any shady behavior to pay the management cost.
BTW I will support the flag and ask the bounty participants to remove the signature as soon as possible.
BTW I will support the flag and ask the bounty participants to remove the signature as soon as possible.
Title should be changed to scam instead of possible scam because he scam manager Murat he worked with the project to maximize the promotion so it can attract investors then left him without acknowledging his effort, investors should be aware of this kind of action.
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me.
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
Thats awful dude. Sorry for your loss. If its okay can you share here some evidence or any form of conversation that they really refusing to pay you for the works you did. This will be a strong cause for everyone to tag the project even more and warn that the team dont pay such due. Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
Also can I quote this message of you and add on the OP? for additional details on this case against Ledu.
Supporting the flag
damn, that was unexpected, seeing that they paid you for the first month. I wonder why they suddenly decided to get cheap and stop paying you that could badly affect their "project"
flag supported
Supported the flag Murat doesn't deserve this kind of treatment he is a good and considerate manager I hope it will never happen to independent managers like Murat, we should all work together bounty managers and hunters to clean the community of scammers and dubious projects.
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What surprises me though is that such an experienced bounty manager accepted campaign without getting money up front, or at least escrowed it.
This is not much of surprise because most of the times, if a project is established or somewhat known which looks a serious project, any campaign manager would trust their words I think. Murat is a long experienced manager here but still there are people whom anyone can trust easily what Murat did trusting Ledu project. And there are some campaign managers who never learn, although I do not think Murat is such manager.
I support it, I can say that it was sad to make such a situation. At least when we get our shares for us, we will more or less guess how the campaign will end.
What happened is they paid me full for First month.
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me. So I closed the campaign (Not really interested to give them free Managment).
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
EDIT - Please support the flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2184
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me. So I closed the campaign (Not really interested to give them free Managment).
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
EDIT - Please support the flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2184
damn, that was unexpected, seeing that they paid you for the first month. I wonder why they suddenly decided to get cheap and stop paying you that could badly affect their "project"
flag supported
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me.
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
Thats awful dude. Sorry for your loss. If its okay can you share here some evidence or any form of conversation that they really refusing to pay you for the works you did. This will be a strong cause for everyone to tag the project even more and warn that the team dont pay such due. Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
Also can I quote this message of you and add on the OP? for additional details on this case against Ledu.
Supporting the flag
Kudos to Murat for taking actions here and even paying it out of his pocket. But clever trick for these scammers, this time, paying only for a month and then after that making lots of excuses. At least though bounty participants got their payment here, but if these is a scam then I guess the tokens will not worth anything and that is the risk of being a bounty hunter.
Edit: supported the flag as well.
Edit: supported the flag as well.
What happened is they paid me full for First month.
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me. So I closed the campaign (Not really interested to give them free Managment).
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
EDIT - Please support the flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2184
For 2nd month they sent only bounty pariticipants payment. when i asked about my payment they keep giving different excuses & they are not willing to pay me. So I closed the campaign (Not really interested to give them free Managment).
Pariticipant will be paid in full (Gas price from my own pocket).
EDIT - Please support the flag - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2184
Curious also that his payment werent paid, but the team only give the payment for participants. Whats that? A test if he pass management, now people know how they deal with negotiation.
Most likely that was part of the deal, for bounty manager to distribute the bounty tokens. It is a lot of responsibility, and in this case it might even be extra expense for bounty manager, since he wasn't paid for the job done.Anyway, tough situation, as bounty hunters will expect their tokens and will cry and moan if they don't get them. Most of the times they don't even care whether project is legit or not, as long as they get the tokens.
Means that only the empty hand that can be obtained by Murat if the team only pays for the participants while he with the initial approval only at the end is not appropriate from the team so this should be paid early normally for a bounty manager like that and why in the end getting disagreed
Of course Murat will bear the higher gas costs because the guarantee was not given by the team.
Of course Murat will bear the higher gas costs because the guarantee was not given by the team.
Maybe they weren't satisfied with the results, maybe they planned that from the beginning. Who knows...
Its not a good stance if thats the case. The one will suffer with that consequence is no other than Murat, he will paid the participants for their participation and the fees will be at his expenditures surely. Knowing the gas fee is high now for eth? He could actually post something against this project.What surprises me though is that such an experienced bounty manager accepted campaign without getting money up front, or at least escrowed it.
Curious also that his payment werent paid, but the team only give the payment for participants. Whats that? A test if he pass management, now people know how they deal with negotiation. Jump to: