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Quote from: Atomicat on February 07, 2016, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:27:00 AM

I never deny that I did not own dovetail account. I even start using this account after I send the account to wourtchsack. I even pm my customers that I'm dovetail.

Can any of your customers confirm that you PMed them with this account after taking a loan with the dovetail account?

I have a confirmation from another user that such PM exists. Not sure if that helps here, it only confirms that wensbo for some reason did not want this information to become public. Also in the PM I've seen wensbo didn't actually explain that he/she no longer controls the dovetail account, just stated "I'm dovetail".

The whole "I'm very busy" excuse doesn't work when you have time to PM users.

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Quote from: Atomicat on February 07, 2016, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:27:00 AM

I never deny that I did not own dovetail account. I even start using this account after I send the account to wourtchsack. I even pm my customers that I'm dovetail.

Can any of your customers confirm that you PMed them with this account after taking a loan with the dovetail account?

Some trusted member can login to my account and see the pms themselves.

wensbo

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Quote from: Atomicat on February 07, 2016, 05:41:55 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:27:00 AM

I never deny that I did not own dovetail account. I even start using this account after I send the account to wourtchsack. I even pm my customers that I'm dovetail.

Can any of your customers confirm that you PMed them with this account after taking a loan with the dovetail account?

I will try to tell them. But I cannot force them if they would not like to. The best if mods will interfere and check our pms. It would take only a few minutes.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:27:00 AM

I never deny that I did not own dovetail account. I even start using this account after I send the account to wourtchsack. I even pm my customers that I'm dovetail.

Can any of your customers confirm that you PMed them with this account after taking a loan with the dovetail account?

wensbo

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I never deny that I did not own dovetail account. I even start using this account after I send the account to wourtchsack. I even pm my customers that I'm dovetail.

wensbo

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Quote from: Atomicat on February 07, 2016, 05:19:23 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:16:01 AM

Quote from: khalized on February 07, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on February 06, 2016, 09:55:46 PM

Quote from: khalized on February 06, 2016, 07:54:53 PM

This is the principal wallet of the user... maybe you can find other address linked to other scam attempt...

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1A2oT6bGNCKZxTfdGHWyUG2pHqpFomXnPQ

I hope this could help some one.

where did you even find that? can't find anywhere on bitcointalk.

@wensbo if you're telling the truth then you should have watched your own account while it was in wouchstack's possession and notify everyone as soon as he posted.

I see the adddress of the user on blockchain (address in profile that NOW HE REMOVED!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13712220
1BZB238kcFvVGi4C56BBWtqcAiEmCnRDdy

And I find the "double bump" dovetail - wensbo.
(where bot sell the same domain and where wensbo start to pump the post)

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/address/18qiZyPhaHYFJb3wRmAxG61i8yxDqBZRuk dovetail wallet

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/tx/e90b2a1d68ad44415f64df3cd5f094b0d699186a62ff6022abd7d63cc875808e January 23 2016 dovetail send money to wensbo

I own dovetail until January 27, 2016. Only January 27, 2016 I transferred it to wouchtsack as collateral.

Did you contact wouchtsack from any other account before you transfer the account as collateral for the loan?

Unfortunately I did not. I never thought he would do like that. He seems like a decent man.

If mods reading this posts. Please look at the pms of wochtsack and dovetail.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 05:16:01 AM

Quote from: khalized on February 07, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on February 06, 2016, 09:55:46 PM

Quote from: khalized on February 06, 2016, 07:54:53 PM

This is the principal wallet of the user... maybe you can find other address linked to other scam attempt...

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1A2oT6bGNCKZxTfdGHWyUG2pHqpFomXnPQ

I hope this could help some one.

where did you even find that? can't find anywhere on bitcointalk.

@wensbo if you're telling the truth then you should have watched your own account while it was in wouchstack's possession and notify everyone as soon as he posted.

I see the adddress of the user on blockchain (address in profile that NOW HE REMOVED!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13712220
1BZB238kcFvVGi4C56BBWtqcAiEmCnRDdy

And I find the "double bump" dovetail - wensbo.
(where bot sell the same domain and where wensbo start to pump the post)

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/address/18qiZyPhaHYFJb3wRmAxG61i8yxDqBZRuk dovetail wallet

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/tx/e90b2a1d68ad44415f64df3cd5f094b0d699186a62ff6022abd7d63cc875808e January 23 2016 dovetail send money to wensbo

I own dovetail until January 27, 2016. Only January 27, 2016 I transferred it to wouchtsack as collateral.

Did you contact wouchtsack from any other account before you transfer the account as collateral for the loan?

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Quote from: khalized on February 07, 2016, 05:02:22 AM

Quote from: --Encrypted-- on February 06, 2016, 09:55:46 PM

Quote from: khalized on February 06, 2016, 07:54:53 PM

This is the principal wallet of the user... maybe you can find other address linked to other scam attempt...

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1A2oT6bGNCKZxTfdGHWyUG2pHqpFomXnPQ

I hope this could help some one.

where did you even find that? can't find anywhere on bitcointalk.

@wensbo if you're telling the truth then you should have watched your own account while it was in wouchstack's possession and notify everyone as soon as he posted.

I see the adddress of the user on blockchain (address in profile that NOW HE REMOVED!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13712220
1BZB238kcFvVGi4C56BBWtqcAiEmCnRDdy

And I find the "double bump" dovetail - wensbo.
(where bot sell the same domain and where wensbo start to pump the post)

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/address/18qiZyPhaHYFJb3wRmAxG61i8yxDqBZRuk dovetail wallet

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/tx/e90b2a1d68ad44415f64df3cd5f094b0d699186a62ff6022abd7d63cc875808e January 23 2016 dovetail send money to wensbo

I own dovetail until January 27, 2016. Only January 27, 2016 I transferred it to wouchtsack as collateral.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on February 06, 2016, 09:55:46 PM

Quote from: khalized on February 06, 2016, 07:54:53 PM

This is the principal wallet of the user... maybe you can find other address linked to other scam attempt...

https://blockchain.info/it/address/1A2oT6bGNCKZxTfdGHWyUG2pHqpFomXnPQ

I hope this could help some one.

where did you even find that? can't find anywhere on bitcointalk.

@wensbo if you're telling the truth then you should have watched your own account while it was in wouchstack's possession and notify everyone as soon as he posted.

I see the adddress of the user on blockchain (address in profile that NOW HE REMOVED!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13712220
1BZB238kcFvVGi4C56BBWtqcAiEmCnRDdy

And I find the "double bump" dovetail - wensbo.
(where bot sell the same domain and where wensbo start to pump the post)

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/address/18qiZyPhaHYFJb3wRmAxG61i8yxDqBZRuk dovetail wallet

https://ws.blockchain.info/it/tx/e90b2a1d68ad44415f64df3cd5f094b0d699186a62ff6022abd7d63cc875808e January 23 2016 dovetail send money to wensbo

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Stay on topic please,i can't understanding why users still scam if they need money thwy should get a job.

I got scammed myself yesterday for 1$ Roll Eyes

this proof how broke or idiotic some users are.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 04:20:19 AM

Quote from: Jhanzo on February 07, 2016, 03:42:26 AM

man I'd hate to be a member of those forums. Roll Eyes

no forum mods should be able to read any PMs. most of the time they are just volunteers.
and no it's not their job to sort out anyone's mess because they gave their account to someone else.

Those mods are volunteers. And they solve every issue like this. And they have no salary whatsoever.

and they also spy on you.
but whatever. we're getting off-topic and I've better things to do than to argue about some dumb forum from god knows where which allows their mods to see users PM.

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Quote from: Jhanzo on February 07, 2016, 03:42:26 AM

man I'd hate to be a member of those forums. Roll Eyes

no forum mods should be able to read any PMs. most of the time they are just volunteers.
and no it's not their job to sort out anyone's mess because they gave their account to someone else.

Those mods are volunteers. And they solve every issue like this. And they have no salary whatsoever.

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man I'd hate to be a member of those forums. Roll Eyes

no forum mods should be able to read any PMs. most of the time they are just volunteers.
and no it's not their job to sort out anyone's mess because they gave their account to someone else.

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Quote from: Atomicat on February 07, 2016, 02:24:49 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 01:43:27 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on February 07, 2016, 01:39:17 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 12:28:45 AM

I already give you the proofs. And still you are not neg repping wouchsack and you are even depending him. Is wouchsack account your alt?

Yeah right, I gave you some coins just to mess with you. Get real Roll Eyes

I think a reasonable way out of this for you would be to give me (or any trusted member here) access to your account to confirm those PMs with WouchtSack, timing of account transfer, other details that would show you're not just making this up now. I have a feeling though you're gonna say the important PMs are in the dovetail account... am I right?

I'm willing the change the neg trust to neutral if anyone can come up with some kind of verifiable proof that isn't just words of an outed alt. The bar is set pretty low here I think.

The conversion with worthsack was on dovetail account because I still have control of the account at that time. I only use this account after worchsack changed the password the dovetail account.

The pm I have in this account is with the my customers telling them I'm dovetail.

Mods can confirm the pm's on my dovetail account.

Moderators don't have the ability to read PMs. I don't think even a Global Mod can read PMs.

And I don't think an admin is going to look into this case so you need to provide some valid proof.

Why not? I've seen bigger forums than bitcointalk and their moderators efficiently handle cases like this. I did not have any control of the account. This is the job of the mods.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 01:43:27 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on February 07, 2016, 01:39:17 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 12:28:45 AM

I already give you the proofs. And still you are not neg repping wouchsack and you are even depending him. Is wouchsack account your alt?

Yeah right, I gave you some coins just to mess with you. Get real Roll Eyes

I think a reasonable way out of this for you would be to give me (or any trusted member here) access to your account to confirm those PMs with WouchtSack, timing of account transfer, other details that would show you're not just making this up now. I have a feeling though you're gonna say the important PMs are in the dovetail account... am I right?

I'm willing the change the neg trust to neutral if anyone can come up with some kind of verifiable proof that isn't just words of an outed alt. The bar is set pretty low here I think.

The conversion with worthsack was on dovetail account because I still have control of the account at that time. I only use this account after worchsack changed the password the dovetail account.

The pm I have in this account is with the my customers telling them I'm dovetail.

Mods can confirm the pm's on my dovetail account.

Moderators don't have the ability to read PMs. I don't think even a Global Mod can read PMs.

And I don't think an admin is going to look into this case so you need to provide some valid proof.

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Quote from: suchmoon on February 07, 2016, 01:39:17 AM

Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 12:28:45 AM

I already give you the proofs. And still you are not neg repping wouchsack and you are even depending him. Is wouchsack account your alt?

Yeah right, I gave you some coins just to mess with you. Get real Roll Eyes

I think a reasonable way out of this for you would be to give me (or any trusted member here) access to your account to confirm those PMs with WouchtSack, timing of account transfer, other details that would show you're not just making this up now. I have a feeling though you're gonna say the important PMs are in the dovetail account... am I right?

I'm willing the change the neg trust to neutral if anyone can come up with some kind of verifiable proof that isn't just words of an outed alt. The bar is set pretty low here I think.

The conversion with worthsack was on dovetail account because I still have control of the account at that time. I only use this account after worchsack changed the password the dovetail account.

The pm I have in this account is with the my customers telling them I'm dovetail.

Mods can confirm the pm's on my dovetail account.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 12:28:45 AM

I already give you the proofs. And still you are not neg repping wouchsack and you are even depending him. Is wouchsack account your alt?

Yeah right, I gave you some coins just to mess with you. Get real Roll Eyes

I think a reasonable way out of this for you would be to give me (or any trusted member here) access to your account to confirm those PMs with WouchtSack, timing of account transfer, other details that would show you're not just making this up now. I have a feeling though you're gonna say the important PMs are in the dovetail account... am I right?

I'm willing the change the neg trust to neutral if anyone can come up with some kind of verifiable proof that isn't just words of an outed alt. The bar is set pretty low here I think.

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Quote from: wensbo on February 07, 2016, 01:15:45 AM

Quote from: Jhanzo on February 07, 2016, 12:56:35 AM

what proofs? it's all your words trying to defend yourself.

oh you mean this one?
that's not enough because there's no confirmation that the account ever changed hands.
others may think differently though. there are cases where users got negged until they're proven to be innocent.

Look in https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

January 27, 2016, 02:18:08 PM - dovetail - password changed
January 27, 2016, 02:13:31 PM - dovetail - password changed

I hope mods will confirmed this.

knew that. that's what I hinted on my reply to your post on the first page. still I didn't think that was good enough.

I guess in this case I can a neg him until he can prove his innocence. there's quite a few accusations against him anyway.

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Quote from: Jhanzo on February 07, 2016, 12:56:35 AM

what proofs? it's all your words trying to defend yourself.

oh you mean this one?
that's not enough because there's no confirmation that the account ever changed hands.
others may think differently though. there are cases where users got negged until they're proven to be innocent.

Look in https://bitcointalk.org/seclog.php

January 27, 2016, 02:18:08 PM - dovetail - password changed
January 27, 2016, 02:13:31 PM - dovetail - password changed

I hope mods will confirmed this.

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what proofs? it's all your words trying to defend yourself.

oh you mean this one?
that's not enough because there's no confirmation that the account ever changed hands.
others may think differently though. there are cases where users got negged until they're proven to be innocent.

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