Topic: Scammer Trade Fortress - page 2. (Read 19519 times)

You should post in his trust with the links before he scams more people.

He owes me 10.15 BTC that he has taken from me and given to other people.

He has also promised to pay 445+ other people 1 BTC each which he has yet not fullfiled.

Worse, he has done so by asking them for 100 BTC credit, in a deceitful manner, setting up a scenario where many people could be scammed out of a great deal of money.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2213093
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2209999

Wow looks like op is the scammer and not TradeFortress.

No, he actually offered to code a working btc taking site and failed to do so. Not just design (although the design sucked too).
If he offered to "pretend to code a working site" or "design for site" I wouldn't have contracted with him.

No, you paid for a service which TF was offering, he provided you with a deisgn & you didn't like it, now you think he's scammed you?

That's not a scam.


If that is true what you have quoted then yes I believe that is a scam.

Lol, Of course he's a scammer  No really he's not.

What a thread.

How dare you interrupt the smear campaign!

This thread is old why does it still go?

looks like that site went down recently, maybe TradeFortress kept a copy since it's his code and he was supposed to provide a working copy of it to complete the site. Then again, it would be embarrassing to him since it is sooo bad.

Both links are dead for me, any other sources than those two?

Recent arbitration discussion timeline summary:

Continuous: TF never files an arbitration case and doesn't pay any arbitration fees anywhere and makes no attempt to resolve our dispute by refusing all of my settlement offers while using smokescreens to redirect away from the facts of the case.

February 28, 2013, 09:08:21 AM
TF offers arbitration for the last time (agreeing to pay 100%) after I already accepted his offer on February 28, 2013, 01:53:08 AM

March 01, 2013,
I make public notice of TF failure to proceed with arbitration.

March 03, 2013, 07:39:57 PM
I publicly encourage TF to proceed with arbitration.

March 05, 2013, 03:03:36 AM
TF publicly admits to contacting judge.me to slander me and my business. This provides the reason why judge.me took so long (~3 weeks) to decide whether to accept our case (which I filed).

March 11, 2013, 11:42:07 PM
I make public notice of TF's admission to slandering me to judge.me and TF failure to proceed with arbitration

Wed, Mar 20, 2013
judge.me agrees to take the case and requests payment (50/50)
I promptly pay half the arbitration fee despite TF previous offer to pay 100%.
Note: I paid the 50% due to TF previous complaint that the arbitration filing was under a 50/50 fee agreement.

Sun, 31 Mar 2013
judge.me sends TF a final notice to pay half the fee for arbitration.

Today -
I disclose to the forum that TF is refusing to pay even half the arbitration fee.

full details/links available here:

This thread doesn't have the concise history of the other one.
But to summarize:
So you're now openly reneging on your arbitration offer?
Wow, I knew arbitration was too good to be true because it would reveal how much of a fraudster you are.

You've wasted enough of my time already by not actually going through with arbitration and telling me to pay (even through I wasn't given anything to pay to!), and now months later seeing the rise in BTC you finally decide to go through with arbitration again?

Also, seeing as you're a trader, might go through the old currency exchange threads and bump the ones where people are selling BTC for $5 each.

/ignore

See quote for full details.

Wrong, TF is encouraged to finish the job and post his new and improved "Finished Product" that I paid him for. However it won't be hosted on my server.
Which claims were disputed? obviously your opinion is worthwhile, but the specifics/links to facts are necessary for any credibility.
True, but if TF was trustworthy, this would be irrelevant.
Which contract? What good would that do? It seems regardless of the contracts/ btc paid, many people here don't want to condemn TF for scamming.
I don't recognize the references. The specifics/links to facts are necessary for a more detailed response.
The final unchanged version of TF code he gave me as his final product has been posted. AFAIK that's undisputed. It is non-functional.
TF could provide his version of the site showing how anyone supposedly changed it.
The whole site is being developed into a usable product, so that is being changed. Otherwise, as I wrote, not sure where your references are coming from (unless you're using unsupported statements made by TF).
Wrong and unsupported by the facts.
I'm the only person who filed an arbitration claim and TF admitted to interfering with the arbitration process by slandering me to judge.me and failing to file an arbitration case anywhere as his writing shows:
TF neither filed an arbitration case nor had any intention of paying an arbitration fee and proceeding with arbitration.
I made this obvious by filing the case and offering to pay half the fee, only later finding out judge.me won't proceed with the case because of TF's slander.
I could accept a less than professional website if I hounded him again and again to fix all the bugs in his final version which would likely take months to do, but that's not what I paid for. I solicited and paid for a professional quality, functioning web site. TF failed to deliver a functional site and he can not make a professional quality site regardless of the time given. He never has and never will IMHO.
Because TF offers to create commercial websites and doesn't have the skills/experience to do so, he is a scammer.

I think it's been said already- you have a right to be unhappy with Trade Fortress, but it doesn't mean he is a scammer. I suspect the possibility of fixing your working relationship has been ruined by this thread, but it seems like you could have worked with him longer to resolve your complaints.

You are a broken record.

1. You refused to let TF "finish" any work. Another has looked at the code and disputed some of your claims.
2. You used bad judgement by paying the total cost upfront
3. You keep on and on and on about how you were scammed. You were not. You didn't like the product so you hired another for less money. What were the terms of the contract? Post said terms.
4. Carlos L claims no code was changed, you stated it was. Which is it?
5. You have made it nearly impossible to get a judgement by interfering in the arbitration process. Why again did you do this? On purpose?
6. Keep repeating 1-5 until everyone's eyes bleed.

I see your point, TF elaborate methods of covering his tracks after taking the 27 BTC seems to have insulated him pretty well from accountability in this forum.
I guess if TF ever successfully finishes the job I paid him for, then your view would have more grounding, but as of now, the last work I received from him was non-functional as I described in the other thread (with links to the web-code available above for inspection).

It's probably because you were using a proxy like TOR and got blanket-banned. We get spambots via TOR a ton of times daily, and we IP ban them.