Topic: Scammer Trade Fortress - page 4. (Read 19596 times)

I've had a quick look over the code. I haven't tested it fully yet but if I get time I will do so, but from my quick glance over it I fail to see how this was "written by a 14 year old with 2 months experience".

Had this happen to me as well, why I am skeptical. Add to that the the constant ultimatums in the forum for refunds. At least give it time to get sorted. I reserve my judgement until all the facts that can be made clear are made so.

How would I earn with TF money? It's not like MoneyPakTrader needs that money to pay me.

Was your design usable? If it was, than fine, you didn't need to refund her. If it wasn't, well, it's hard to pay someone in full and not get a  usable thing. That's what happened with MoneyPakTrader, he paid in full and the work he paid for was not working.

I'm sure you think of everyone disagreeing with you as a sockpuppet, right? Especially when you're trying to earn from TradeFortress's money?

There's so many people trying to take advantage of each other - not just in the bitcoin economy. This 'accusation' hits close to home for me - a year ago, I did significant design work for a friend of a friend. After a few months, she wanted the money back because she didn't like what I made. Being that we haven't done it formally, I just shrugged and refunded her under the condition she won't my work, but a bit later I check her website and she hired someone to recreate what I did.

The same situation is happening here - MoneyPakTrader.com appears to be wanting to find another developer due to the bitcoin price rally. The fact that MoneyPakTrader wants a full refund makes me know his true intentions.

Oops, had a moment of brain freeze just now.   

Hence my question.

Uh, I think he's at Tradefortress's side, not MoneyPakTrader.com.

When and how MoneyPakTrader.com scammed TradeFortress?
I'm starting to think you're a sock puppet.

Also, make sure to send an anonymous tip to the FBI for money laundering :)

I have no respect for people like MoneyPakTrader who scam using scammer accusations. It's like false rape accusations.

Make sure you request that he be judged liable for your fees for defending your reputation. This isn't just about whether or not you are innocent, it's about the damages he caused you. I'm very interested in seeing the result of this.

Explain how I'm supposed to pay for something I haven't got an invoice for and with no response from judge.me. In fact I've followed them up on the email and still no response.

Seriously, I'm just going to ignore you if you keep posting BS to stall and want to get 4x of what you paid for without actually going through arbitration.

Let me make this clear:

YOU ARE NOT WAITING ON ME. I CAN'T DO ANYTHING AND I'M NOT GETTING ANY EMAILS BACK FROM PETER-JAN.

YOU ARE WAITING ON JUDGE.ME OR JUDGE.ME IS WAITING ON YOU (or the FBI).

I'm not even going to bother pointing out your colluding / lying messages here, because I'm saving that up for judge.me.

Thanks, I posted the code TF delivered as a final product. My current programmer has required a complete rewrite because it's unusable. If any programmers are willing to review TF product here, it should make labeling TF a scammer easier (the work speaks for itself). Of course TF is free to post his version of his final version of my site if he believes his work I posted is inaccurate.
Here it is again: http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html

So you refused to file with judge.me and now you're refusing to pay for the case I filed because I am doing something you knew about me from before we ever contracted to have the site built? Anyways, I'll split the fee if you want to do that, pay your half and I'll pay my half in BTC. But, you already agreed to pay the filing fee, so this only makes you look even more guilty by reneging on that.
They have the company representative info. You're not going to evade your promises that way. Either pay the full fee as you promised or pay half. Obviously if you paid the arbitration fee and they canceled it because of my fault you'd get the money back.
Don't try so hard to be a weasel.
Does anyone have the IRL info for TF? It's pretty obvious he's a scammer and it would help with collections.
Don't be such a liar, it went to your [email protected] account. Check the spam folder and/or stop lying about that.
It's the same email you received confirmation of the arbitration I filed (which you posted in this thread), so I know you're getting the emails from them.
Ok, so you gave them my name. Good, glad you can't hide behind that any more.
But now you're abandoning your arbitration offer? And you think everyone is going to just trust you with more BTC? I pity the fool who doesn't do their research on you. You need a scammer tag before you steal even more unsuspecting forum user's BTC.
I'm offering to pay half the arbitration fee now, since it's impossible to file and have the other person pay the full fee (which you must know). Anyways, I filed, I'll pay half the fee in BTC if they take that or someone will pay the paypal and I'll pay them for it.
Anyways, you are obviously reneging on your offer for arbitration and it seems you never intended to pay it anyways. . .
I offered to let you off for less, you refused. Now you owe the full amount for fully failing to do the job. You need to give me all the btc back because the new programmer is completely redoing the code and you have no right to keep btc for a job you couldn't do from the start. You have no right to any portion of the payment, because you couldn't do the job and your work is unfit to be sold as web-programming.
Pay the fee or half the fee and we'll arbitrate. Don't pay and it's obvious you're a scammer.
You stole/scammed 27 BTC from me thinking I was not going to follow through in the forums or you could discount me the way you discounted the initial poster here.

Bottom Line:
I renew my claim that TF and all his identities on here should get the scammer tag because he offered to pay for arbitration openly in here and is now backing out. Coupled with the fact he scammed me out of 27 BTC and there are 2 other reports of him scamming by using programming as the draw.

give him is money back or post the code for review. I am going to Raleigh tomorrow to set up my mining rig. I will have my dad look at it and say what is what. He is a computer engineer of 20 years and owns his own software company norlinx.

He never agreed to reveal his ID to you, he shouldn't have to now. You are the one who didn't deliver a usable product. That is the main reason I have never dealt with MPT, he needs to protect is ID, I only like to deal with people I can look into.

You are going to be put on the pending scammer list until this issue is resolved.     
 

Should TF be placed on the pending scammer list? here... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/masters-scammer-list-149147

good for you on getting your money back, best of luck in court

As far as TF bullshit line of a long for free is a complete BS, if it was paided in USD that would be fine but he paided in BTC therefore you owe the same amount in BTC. if btc is to become a real currency and used currency you cant compare it to usd and call it a long. Thats like me saying you owe me more USD because btc went down in value.

UPDATE:
I decided to go ahead and file the case rather than wait for him. It was a simple process and both TF and myself were emailed with the details that he shared already.
 TF has NOT paid the filing fee fore the case I filed at judge.me and I don't see any case that he filed (maybe because he never filed his case?).
The quote he shared appears to be for the case I filed.
I notified judge.me of TF willingness to pay the filing fee which they are waiting for.
Now it is TF turn to pay the fee to complete the filing:
From: Judge.me Sat 02:14
"Thank you for using judge.me.
Our records indicate that both parties agreed to split the arbitration fee. Trade Fortress, could you please confirm whether or not you want to pay tbe entire fee upfront or split the fee upfront?
Kind regards,
Peter-Jan Celis
www.judge.me
Skype: peter.jan.celis"
Strange that they would send an email to only you about this supposed issue about my information. My experience with judge.me is that they correspond to both parties together (see above).
Can you share the exact quote? Was it from Peter or someone else?

Bottom Line for TF:
Please pay the full arbitration fee (as you promised above) so we can get to damages issue and have you reimburse my losses from your failure to code properly.

I'm releasing a zip of TF final product of my site moneypaktrader.com :
http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
direct link - http://94.75.216.85/en/file/398233/Moneypak-zip.html
If any programmers want to review it and comment on whether it is suitable as commercial web-design/development work, please do so.
Please don't change the PW, so people can test out his bitcoin deposit system, or if someone does change it, you'll need to set up a new blockchain account to test it. It did work once for 0.001 BTC deposit I think. Feel free to steal that, but don't change PW.

So now we wait for him to come on here and claim that you're scamming him by not going through with the arbitration again?

Thank you

The case has now been confirmed by both parties.

We will now send the necessary invoices and add an arbitrator to your case within 2 working days or receiving payment.

You will receive an email notification with further instructions soon.

EDIT: It seems like the case isn't going to go through. Judge.me told me that they need the name of the individual or company representative, and MoneyPakTrader doesn't seem to want to disclose it.

Duh, when you run the code on an unsupported platform it's not going to work. Deposits wasn't broken, it only became broken when you revoked my cPanel access.. Fill in the blanks


Yes, the site is inaccessible when Blockchain.info's API is down. Surprise? I've TOLD you that this is a problem with blockchain.info, you ignore it.

I have emailed you with instructions on how to suppress errors WAY earlier. Is it my fault if you ignores that too and complains about the login/PW.

I bet when he's web host goes down or when he forgets to renew the domain he's going to complain that it's my fault..