This is not going anywere. BITCOINMAR havent even bothered to reply on this thread, and as Martin mentioned i have 0% chance of getting my funds back.
So i am closing this thread. And let karma catch up with him ( or an Admin can also ).
Cheers
Topic: SCAMMER - username : BITCOINMAR - Profile ID : 452003 - SCAMMED 550 EUR (Read 2456 times)
March 18, 2016, 12:39:57 PM
March 10, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
first of all how people can trust newbie with skrill/neteller even they knew it can be easily reversed.
That is the main reason trusted ex-changer charge fee. Because they took responsibilities of their trade and don't excuse like this.
Next time pay some fee to trusted and experience trader.
That is the main reason trusted ex-changer charge fee. Because they took responsibilities of their trade and don't excuse like this.
Next time pay some fee to trusted and experience trader.
March 09, 2016, 10:50:45 PM
hmmm
my skyp id is "giga-owner" not "Martin Nesbitt"
though my name is Martin Nesbitt
I thought I was showing as "giga-owner" but perhaps not
whatever
we can go around this all we want but in the end I was trying to help not hurt
im not sure what you mean by "managing your image"
I removed my domain from my account here yes
you have me labeled a scammer so posting my domain here now can only serve to hurt me
I don't wish to let anger control me anymore so I choose to forgive you
ill just right this forum off as a failed test
blame me all you like for that but fact is I came in with $300 to test with (prepared to loose it)
and im down $580 so clearly trading here is a bad move for me
it's time I accepted that and moved on
my skyp id is "giga-owner" not "Martin Nesbitt"
though my name is Martin Nesbitt
I thought I was showing as "giga-owner" but perhaps not
whatever
we can go around this all we want but in the end I was trying to help not hurt
im not sure what you mean by "managing your image"
I removed my domain from my account here yes
you have me labeled a scammer so posting my domain here now can only serve to hurt me
I don't wish to let anger control me anymore so I choose to forgive you
ill just right this forum off as a failed test
blame me all you like for that but fact is I came in with $300 to test with (prepared to loose it)
and im down $580 so clearly trading here is a bad move for me
it's time I accepted that and moved on
March 09, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
well that one is at-least honest
you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing
I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault
you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing
I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault
Oh FFS would you stop already... it takes about 3 seconds to google your Bitcointalk profile using your name from the skype screenshots. So yeah you would have been entangled in this scam regardless of your "disclosure", and good job getting in front of it by managing your image here but now you're overdoing it.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=martin+nesbitt+bitcointalk
March 09, 2016, 10:07:17 PM
well that one is at-least honest
you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing
I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault
you need to understand I was only trying to do the right thing here
you would not have known anything if not for me
and in-spite of what PSS thinks you could not have made a connection to me if I had not made it for you
he didn't know my name here and even if he had figured it out it is not my skype ID
it would have proved nothing
if I where the man you think I am I would have just cept quiet and ignored the hole thing
I have people insisting your just doing your job
so I will try to forgive your assault
March 09, 2016, 09:38:45 PM
I have asked many people how the trust system works and they all either don't respond at all
or say they are not sure
lets have a look at your feedback shall we
((((( Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))
is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?
involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam
IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone
you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone
or say they are not sure
lets have a look at your feedback shall we
((((( Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))
is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?
involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam
IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone
you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone
So you admit that you don't understand how the trust system works but that doesn't prevent you from labeling my feedback as "abusive". Same self-serving bias that got you into trouble to begin with.
I have revised my trust comment to clarify the "involvement". Enjoy.
March 09, 2016, 08:59:43 PM
im being asked by OP to let it go
so in respect for him ill try to calm down
so in respect for him ill try to calm down
March 09, 2016, 08:42:58 PM
I have asked many people how the trust system works and they all either don't respond at all
or say they are not sure
lets have a look at your feedback shall we
((((( Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))
is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?
involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam
IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone
you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone
or say they are not sure
lets have a look at your feedback shall we
((((( Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))
is there anyone
even ONE person who can honestly say that when seeing that from a "default" level member they would not assume it means that I am a hacking scammer ?
involved in a skrill account Hack
Lie - I was never in any way involved with that account
Lie - I was NOT involved in the hack (if there even really was one)
Lie - I was not involved in the scam
IF the account was hacked I had no part in it
and though there clearly was a scam here somewhere I had no part in the scam
you are saying I am involved cause I setup the trade
under that logic I could blame the other people in this thread for your abusive feedback on me
but I do not
they are not involved in that you did it alone
you didn't prevaricate at all
you said "involved in Hack/scam"
that is not even an accusation it's a statement of fact
but it is not a fact it is a lie
I had no part in any plan to defraud anyone
March 09, 2016, 08:28:50 PM
honestly suchmoon I am more upset about your actions then any/everything else here
I don't mind arguing
I can even accept im wrong from time to time
but you put a BIG red sign on me calling me a hacker and a scammer
I am NEITHER and im still really pissed about that accusation
it dwarfs everything else to the point of making them irreverent
I don't mind arguing
I can even accept im wrong from time to time
but you put a BIG red sign on me calling me a hacker and a scammer
I am NEITHER and im still really pissed about that accusation
it dwarfs everything else to the point of making them irreverent
I did not call you a hacker or a scammer. I stated that you're "involved" in this shitshow and you very much ARE involved no matter how you try to twist your story. I'm also not implying that you need to refund the remaining half. If bitcoinmar comes through with the refund - happy end for everyone.
I'm sorry that you feel more upset about my factual feedback on your account than the actual scam. If you trusted bitcoinmar when brokering the 550 EUR deal you should be able to trust him/her now to resolve the issue. Until that happens perhaps you should spend less time posting and learn how the trust system works. You have various ways to mitigate my feedback if you feel it's unjust.
March 09, 2016, 08:19:51 PM
Dont worry i am sure they will be removed once this fog settles down, and things cleared.
No need to be upset, its just how things work. Imagine if nobody take actions like suchmoon did.
Than no one would care how the reports will end up, and almost all members that want to make a quick buck can go on a scamming spree`s.
The REP system is there for a reason.
No need to be upset, its just how things work. Imagine if nobody take actions like suchmoon did.
Than no one would care how the reports will end up, and almost all members that want to make a quick buck can go on a scamming spree`s.
The REP system is there for a reason.
March 09, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.
Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.
If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.
Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.
Same here and thanks for the kind words.
Great job amartin99. I posted a neutral for you and will remove the neg once this is sorted out.
but so long as that neg is in place this account is dead to me
there is no point in even trying to trade
and now you seem to be saying this hole thing is my responsibility
well im not paying the other 1/2 just to get a neg removed
im not at all sure I even want to deal here anymore
in the first 2 weeks I have lost $580 (look at it from any angle you like im still out $580)
and I have learned that the reward for being open and honest is to get held responsible for the vary issue I am trying to help with
honestly suchmoon I am more upset about your actions then any/everything else here
I don't mind arguing
I can even accept im wrong from time to time
but you put a BIG red sign on me calling me a hacker and a scammer
I am NEITHER and im still really pissed about that accusation
it dwarfs everything else to the point of making them irreverent
March 09, 2016, 07:32:43 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.
Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.
If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.
Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.
Same here and thanks for the kind words.
Great job amartin99. I posted a neutral for you and will remove the neg once this is sorted out.
March 09, 2016, 07:27:50 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.
Yes i can confirm that he did. And as promised i will not touch those funds.
If bitcoinmar resolves his issue i will be more than happy to return those funds to Martin.
Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.
Same here and thanks for the kind words.
March 09, 2016, 06:57:44 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
as said if you really have covered the 1/2 of total volume as listed in this transaction , then i am happy for you , I wish if bitcoinmar can also refund or pay OP his trade share.
Quote
Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.
Yes i agree with you.
at-last i wish that tomorrow when i wake up i will see things getting sorted out.
March 09, 2016, 06:55:18 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
It is about the friendship yes but what is more important is this :
Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.
Notice how I didn't give you negative feedback? You can look at my posts anyway you want but I was actually trying to help you, again, as this mess WILL affect your business under that account. I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you. Sorry for wasting your time.
Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.
https://blockchain.info/address/15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU
This is the address you sent funds to. And i promise i will not move or touch these btc funds until your guy says if he can resolve his issues.
If he can than i will send these funds back to you in a heartbeat.
only been here 10-15 days no big deal to make a new account
but I am now out about $580 since joining this forum
kinda wishing I had never joined this forum
and every last dime of it is cause of scammers here
ALL other trades I have made went threw without problems
im not sure what im going to do
March 09, 2016, 06:35:24 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I do think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
It is about the friendship yes but what is more important is this :
Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.
Notice how I didn't give you negative feedback? You can look at my posts anyway you want but I was actually trying to help you, again, as this mess WILL affect your business under that account. I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you. Sorry for wasting your time.
Reputation, good standings and most of all TRUST is what matters here.
https://blockchain.info/address/15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU
This is the address you sent funds to. And i promise i will not move or touch these btc funds until your guy says if he can resolve his issues.
If he can than i will send these funds back to you in a heartbeat.
March 09, 2016, 06:25:12 PM
alright
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
I will cover 1/2 of this since you are both friends
I do feel some responsibility and I don't think he can posibly reach the $550
this way I can lighten his load and maybe salvage our friendship
but ill never again put 2 people together to trade
endless grief for nothing
March 09, 2016, 06:22:28 PM
I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
IF ALL MIDDLEMAN`s THINK LIKE THIS ! EXCHANGES WILL DIE OFF !
What is the middleman`s job ? To ensure the proper dealing between two parties ?!
I DEALT WITH YOU ON SKYPE !
ANYWAY MARTIN JUST MADE IT CLEAR AS A DAY I WONT SEE MY FUNDS AGAIN :
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[12:07:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I just didn't want you going to him again later I wanted to save up some $ myself and be your trader
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150 I don't see him coming up with $500
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150 I don't see him coming up with $500
Already wasted a lot of time here !
And just so you both know : God`s hand is long, and karma is a bitch !
Wish you both a good day !
it's an opinion not a fact
I don't know how much $ he has set-aside for trading
but $550 is a lot of $ for someone on a $150 a month income
March 09, 2016, 06:16:54 PM
I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
Some would, if they value their reputation. That's usually why the others receive negative trust.
You seemed confused once again but I'll just shut up this time and let you wonder why not many will continue to deal with you.
if it where say $100 id pay it myself just to prove im an honest man
but $550 I just don't feel this is my responsibility
all I did was connect to people for them to make a trade
yes I tried to prevent them from learning who they where dealing with
but I also show'd them many images of each-others text so they would know the response was not coming from me
and they bartered back and forth so much that I got sif of being the middle man and put them in a group chat
I do not agree that a middle man should back the deal
but even if im wrong I ceased to be a middle man when I put them in a group chat and left them to talk it out
at that point they where on there own and they knew it
March 09, 2016, 06:13:40 PM
I don't blame him for being upset
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
I blame you for thinking I should cover that loss
no one would and you know it
IF ALL MIDDLEMAN`s THINK LIKE THIS ! EXCHANGES WILL DIE OFF !
What is the middleman`s job ? To ensure the proper dealing between two parties ?!
WHAT ARE MIDDLEMANS BASED ON ? TRUST !
I DEALT WITH YOU ON SKYPE !
ANYWAY MARTIN JUST MADE IT CLEAR AS A DAY I WONT SEE MY FUNDS AGAIN :
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[12:07:33 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I just didn't want you going to him again later I wanted to save up some $ myself and be your trader
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150 I don't see him coming up with $500
[12:07:52 AM] Power SEO Service: no, and why not , becuase i considered you trustworthy and trusted you for completing this deal as middleman
[12:08:03 AM] Power SEO Service: Anyway fuck this i know i am not gettign any SHIT back
[12:08:29 AM] Martin Nesbitt: honestly I don't think you are either $550 is a hell of a lot of money
[12:08:40 AM] Martin Nesbitt: I don't think he has it to give you
[12:09:10 AM] Martin Nesbitt: told me thismorning the forum is his sole sores of income and he is only making around $150 a month
[12:09:24 AM] Martin Nesbitt: so where is he gona come up with $550
[12:09:59 AM] Martin Nesbitt: unless he can convince skrill to give it back and if the other hacked guy has proven he got hacked that wont happen
[12:10:19 AM] Martin Nesbitt: best hope here is that he wasn't really hacked and they come to realize it
[12:10:49 AM] Martin Nesbitt: gold did also say he was trying to see what he could come upwith to deal with this
[12:11:11 AM] Martin Nesbitt: but if his monthly income is only $150 I don't see him coming up with $500
Already wasted a lot of time here !
And just so you both know : God`s hand is long, and karma is a bitch !
Wish you both a good day !
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