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Topic: SCAMMER - username : BITCOINMAR - Profile ID : 452003 - SCAMMED 550 EUR - page 3. (Read 2456 times)

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
probably but I don't recall
I do recall taking screen shots of there comets and posting them back and forth to each other
till it got to be to much work and I just joined them into a group chat
he knew full well that I was just making a connection
I did the same thing for him with another guy yesterday
in that trade I did offer to guarantee it because I have known the other trader over a year
and if there is a problem with the PP I will make it right
but I made no such promise to cover "BITCOINMAR"

Then post those screenshots and/or chat logs, starting from the beginning of your conversation with the OP. All the evidence presented so far points to you being the initial contact, providing the payment address etc. Post the full conversation from your end and highlight the parts that you think absolve you from the responsibility for the deal.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

Trust me, i know about bitcointalk LONG before you do, and i found the scammer profile and thread form google based on his email address even before you sent it to me, leading me to this scam report.

point is I told you to post this thread before you did
maybe you knew maybe not it don't matter cause I was telling you to
I gave you the the forum address
I gave you BITCOINMAR's profile link (you know him only under a dif name in skype)

maybe you would have come in on your own but you DIDN'T
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean



Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.

probably but I don't recall
I do recall taking screen shots of there comets and posting them back and forth to each other
till it got to be to much work and I just joined them into a group chat
he knew full well that I was just making a connection
I did the same thing for him with another guy yesterday
in that trade I did offer to guarantee it because I have known the other trader over a year
and if there is a problem with the PP I will make it right
but I made no such promise to cover "BITCOINMAR"
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
crooks need to ban and inform the public

I love btc, have been working with BTC almost as soon as they came out so scammers like this make me sick, and are parasites of the btc community. They give bitcoins a bad reputation referencing them only to HACKS and SCAMS thus slowing the btc community growth. They need to be rooted out.

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

Trust me, i know about bitcointalk LONG before you do, and i found the scammer profile and thread form google based on his email address even before you sent it to me, leading me to this scam report.


I didn't accuse you of hacking, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.

The OP got scammed and needs to be refunded. You seem to be good buddies with bitcoinmar (who is suspiciously silent) so figure out how you two will refund the OP. After that I will consider revising the feedback to neutral.


Thank your for the assistance, i always found bitcointalk community very friendly ( have been a lurker for long time ).
Sadly to see that a "scam report" is my first thread here and was the reason to open an account.


Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.


https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e


Point is if you want to be exchanger or middleman, you need to know the consequences of making this kind of deals. I have exchanged god knows how many bitcoins, and have been scammed in the past, but i dont blame anyone for it and i take full responsibility since i was the one managing the deal directly.

And this can be resolved very quickly. Since you talk with bitcoinmar and you say that BITCOINMAR account got "hacked" and his money were lost ( before you told me his account was locked and it turned out to be working but nvm ), i will settle for 50% refund just to get this SHIT over with.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean



Simple question. Did you or did you not give this Bitcoin address to PowerSEOService?

17L8YL8V7SbWx7kAgvqu54ma1mW8hgzieq

If you did then PowerSEOService had every reason to believe that he/she was dealing with you and not with a third party. Whatever happened afterwards does not absolve you from your responsibility.
hero member
Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
Move On !!!!!!
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
Sure, bitcointalk is better off without the scumbags like you who can't take responsibilities for their action. Why are you still even here?
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
(((((Involved in a Skrill account hack / scam. Details in reference. )))))

paint the thing green for all I care
NO ONE who reads that will deal with me
im done here now and you know it
this is some reward im getting for trying to help a friend that got scammed
NO IM NOT willing to cover his loss
and neither would you be in my place

no one would cover a $550 loss simply cause they made the connection
and you know it

make all the threats you like
50 people can pile on and leave me a neg now
it makes no dif
the damage is done
even if you removed it im not sure I would be interested in trading here anymore
all I have done is loose money
and then to try and work under this hammer
for what (to look for yet more ways I can get scammed)
look at my given feedback and you will see what I mean

legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
https://bpip.org
suchmoon
IM the one that brot up the Skrill hack and you leave me a neg accusing me of doing it ?

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

I didn't accuse you of hacking, you might want to brush up on your reading comprehension.

The OP got scammed and needs to be refunded. You seem to be good buddies with bitcoinmar (who is suspiciously silent) so figure out how you two will refund the OP. After that I will consider revising the feedback to neutral.
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
that may have been after I gave you his BTC address im not sure now
but go ahead and check your logs and you will find that the BTC address didn't change

You did the first 2 exchanges, i had no idea who was in this deal or what was your arrangement for commission with him :

150 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/b4a29efd3b0285556feb0c9ec845e01e

200 EUR :
https://gyazo.com/69d324992488a08c9632f43d7408f5f0

And i still find it very suspicious that you are still responding in his name here and explaining his problems  + you are talking with him on skype and he is still ignoring me.

all I did was put you together with someone I had traded with in that past and considered trust worthy

I wanted paypal, you were the one offered me the skrill deal :

https://gyazo.com/00deb1cd0972b2d551562885f834cd45

https://gyazo.com/bad1952e9178731da4784cb6913a1ce0

And me forcing you ? NO, i just want you/him as exchangers/middleman`s to take responsibility of your actions.

You can not negotiate a deal as middleman and if the deal goes sideways just say "hey sorry for your loose i wasnt the one sending the money".

I just want what is rightfully mine THAT IS my money back, since i kept my end of the deal.

So again since you are talking with him, i expect this to be sorted out and get refund on my BTC address above or my skrill account.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
crooks need to ban and inform the public
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
suchmoon
IM the one that brot up the Skrill hack and you leave me a neg accusing me of doing it ?

and you ONLY know about this cause I told him to come here and post
he didn't know about this forum till I told him

member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
you seem to think you can force me to cover this trade because I have deeper pockets
well yea I likely could scrape together enough $ to pay you off
but I did not guaranty this trade
all I did was put you together with someone I had traded with in that past and considered trust worthy

im sorry for what has happened but I didn't know there was 4th person involved till I saw you asking him just how many people where involved in the trade
you knew at that point that I had not vouched for the 4th person
I had no idea who it even was
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
at first I was planing to hide you 2 from each-others identity so I could be sure to trade with you myself later
you have a lot of BTC and I was planning to do a lot of trading using you as my source for BTC
then you 2 where sanding so many messages back and forth I just didn't have time so I opened a group chat and just let you deal with each other directly
that may have been after I gave you his BTC address im not sure now
but go ahead and check your logs and you will find that the BTC address didn't change
I didn't have you send me some and him some
I got nothing


I had 2 interests in this trade
A I wanted to get you what you needed so you would keep coming back (got a lot of BTC and I wanted to be your trader)
B I wanted to repay "BITCOINMAR" for all the trades he has sent me (been trying really hard to help me get established here)
I figured with one good trade I could accomplish both goals
but you 2 wanted to chat to much and I had other work to do so I stopped functioning as a middle man (even for your chatting)
and let you 2 deal directly

newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
I would like to re-iterate that I didn’t actually do any of this trade
I have not handled any of the money
All I did was tell 2 people about each other

You handled the first 2 payments ! You sent me where to send btc and i sent you my skrill ID. After that you started the skype group chat.

I can post chat proof if you want ??

I dont know if you took commission on this or not, and buddy i dont care honestly because basically YOU and your friend BITCOINMAR acted like a MIDDLEMAN in this deal ! And i only went through with this because i trusted you.

As MIDDLEMAN you both need to take RESPONSIBILITY for your actions, i dont care if you/he made deal with member with 1 post or 100000 posts, i also dont care if he got hacked/ or someone he worked with got hacked/ or if its all bullshit, that is none of my business.

I sent you/him BTC as agreed, and kept my end of the DEAL ! In the END i got scammed.

And as i can see you are still talking to him, and he still HAS NOT responded to my msgs and continue to ignore me which makes this whole deal even more suspicious. He is even online and i am guessing he is reading this thread but he has not responded here also so far  but he is talking with you on Skype and you are telling his story here instead of him ? or are you setting up the make up for his scam, so he can come here later and say hey i got hacked ??

Whatever it is expect full REFUND or Payment on Skrill on this matter.

The BTC ADDRESS is posted above or you have my Skrill account.
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
Ok near as I can tell this would seem to be the pattern of events

Someone hacked a Skrill account then posted here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/want-to-buy-btc-with-skrill-1384251
One of my off forum trade partners asked me for a large trade of BTC for Skrill
I didn’t have any BTC at the time so I asked “BITCOINMAR” if he could manage it
He having seen that thread said yes and so I connected him and my guy
They did a trade and both BTC and Skrill where sent
Then the Skrill accounts real owner re-took control of it and got his Skrill returned to him
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14096335

Skrill themselves then considering bitcoinmar a scammer or something canceled many other recent transactions and wiped out his skrill balance

My trader “PoWERSEOService’ then came back to me screaming that he got ripped off
And in a way he has been
As has “BITCOINMAR“ though he was the one that chose to act as a middle man for a person making what was likely his very first post in this forum

The only person with morally wrong intent was the person that hacked the Skrill account in the first place
But is seems both the BTC and Skrill are gone now


I would like to re-iterate that I didn’t actually do any of this trade
I have not handled any of the money
All I did was tell 2 people about each other
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
bitcoinmar show'd me a couple images of his Skyp
ill let him show them if he decides to (not my place to post images of someone else s skrill account)

anyway it looks to me like skrill themselves have attacked bitcoinmar
likely cause of his trading

I don't think there is any scamming going on here
just skrill reversing all of bitcoinmar's recent transactions


Now turns out account is attacked ?!?

I call this a bunch of BULLSHIT !

Quote
I don't think there is any scamming going on here

I dont know even what to say to this.

And bitcoinmar is talking to YOU on skype but he is not talking to ME / ignoring me Huh

This is getting even more suspicious.

As Exchangers you need to take responsibility for your deals/actions. I dont care if his CC got limited or he had chargeback ( which is all bullshit btw ).  

And you both as excahngers since you talk to each other, make your deal and i expect a refund of my BTC or payment done on Skrill in next 24h.

BTC ADDRESS : 15Gtq858Vem9HWdDzZHm7yM2UzpaJXS2GU
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
bitcoinmar show'd me a couple images of his Skyp
ill let him show them if he decides to (not my place to post images of someone else s skrill account)

anyway it looks to me like skrill themselves have attacked bitcoinmar
likely cause of his trading

I don't think there is any scamming going on here
just skrill reversing all of bitcoinmar's recent transactions
member
Activity: 70
Merit: 10
from what I understand bitcoinmar had a third party that was buying the BTC with skrill and he was acting as a middle man
I sorta was to (putting them together) but I wasn't handling any money or taking any cut

im wondering if the $550 hopping from account to account then being withdrawn to a visa card may have razed a red flag at Skrill and they reversed all the transactions
has anyone had any experience with Skrill to comment on that possibility ?
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
And i am digging more info about you, just found some other information as well !

Will update this thread with all information i collect !
newbie
Activity: 36
Merit: 0
I was away with some serious personal problems today Just came and now checking this all as I check my Skrill account I also lost all my payment without any reason need some time to check what happen and how happen as I have all information about this then I will reply about this

DONT LIE, this WAS CANCELED SINCE 1-2 DAYS AGO ! ITS NOT FROM TODAY !

https://gyazo.com/e0bee513a002621f5507e1a7537bd118

AND I TALKED TO SKRILL ! ONLY WAY FOR PAYMENT TO BE CANCELED IS IF YOU REQUESTED IT OR DID CHARGEBACK FROM YOUR CC !

YOU TOOK MONEY ON YOUR BTC ADD AND YOU PAID ME FROM YOUR SKRILL ADDRESS AS CLEARLY SEEN ABOVE !

AND SINCE YOU ADMIT ITS YOUR PROBLEM REFUND THE BTC THAT I HAVE SENT YOU THAN !
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