Topic: scammers scamming scammers (Read 2717 times)

who are the mods in this reference?

I have searched google for an Inaba in MO but cannot find one.   Are you sure you own your posts and post under your real name?

You have no choice but to make your info public,you made that decision when you took a high profile job,Hurrr durrr........   

That's why your forum is free from negativity,you can identify everyone & beat them into submission.

BTW,think twice before doing something stupid 

DON'T BUY FROM BFL !!!!!!!!!

And...

Examples right here about how these people act.

It is about derailing and personal attacks. Simple solution use pseudonyms in everything you do so that they won't dox you and threaten you and your livelihood. Funny it doesn't suprise me that yet another BFL henchmen chimes in and gladly I have Fractal on ignore as well.  

The best option and the only option ignore their BS keep posting the truth about the fact BFL is probably the worst company providing mining equipment in my humble opinion based on the 1000's now literally 1000's of posts and complaints about them. Just keep on informing everyone you can of their common practices all well documented here in the forums.

1. Failure to deliver on time.
2. Failure to deliver on spec.
3. Failure to refund according to FTC regulations.
4. Multiple product failures and under performance.
5. Abusive and defamatory comments to derail and deflect threads off topic in a effort to mask 1 - 4.
6. Consistently misrepresent delivery dates of products.

Whether the Moderators do anything to protect those who point this out has been answered. They won't. So yet again the community has to protect against this by using multiple / anonymous accounts. Freedom to post as yourself here in this forum died the minute moderation didn't follow through on this promise:


At this juncture it is clear there is a PATTERN of stalking / harassment from Inaba, BCP19, Fractal02, Josh_BFL, SLok and the mods can't really be that oblivious to this pattern. It is a pandemic. I am not talking about back and forth tit for tat I am talking decidedly 1-way traffic of attacks on many members who have voiced valid and factual opinions regarding BFL and their business practices.

If you won't moderate then at least remove the code of conduct that is not being moderated... and then explicitly warn everyone that they risk being abused, and threatened and their anonymity being threatened if they voice opinions or post in an effort to inform the community. Sad, very very sad but this forum is not free. It is not a place where there is open and honest discussion going on particularly with regards to what BFL is doing. At this point most of the problems in the forums are a result of the behavior that goes unchecked and counter to what Gmaxwell posted as a point of order on the conduct in this subforum. Every strong democracy allows for debate within a set standard of decorum and it is clear that those on the ProBFL side are not living up to those set standards. If one takes the higher road they continue to malign and defame people without exception or moderator intervention.

Be a mensch and dig up the post where I actually apologized to Josh for that same comment, if you are dredging up the past.

EDIT: While you're at it, why don't you dredge up the entire flame-war (both sides, please) from December 2012 to June 2013 when BFL were claiming that us preorder customers would be receiving product "in two weeks", to give our viewers some historical context as to why I lost my cool.

Xian01 = Zero credibility


Do you want i dig and show up some of your insulting threads ?

"Eat bags of Di**s" no...you don't remember this one...?

I found a good advice for you from somebody you know pretty well  

 To be clear, are you equating deleting posts with being the same as unpublishing posts ?

 You still don't get it, do you ?

 You created your problems with this community and myself with your horrible customer service, presence on these forums, and delay after delay, Josh.

 Why can't you accept responsibility for this and keep trying to paint us out as the bad guys due to your own shortcomings ?

 If you had just been honest from the start and been a genuinely decent and nice person (read: trolling begets trolling), there could have been a better-than-good chance I (and many of us) would have been a happy customer and even became acquaintances over our interest in Bitcoin.

 Instead, you act like a school-yard bully rationalizing doxxing of your critics.

 Poor form, and pretty unforgivable.

 I'm proud of my name, Josh.

 Are you proud of yours ?

I love how Mr Bick whine here about lack of thread's moderation but create almost every day a new thread about BFL (Obsession anyone...?)

This kind of behavior is almost psychotic.

But when you find this kind of video near some other where he explain how great school he run...(Brrr man...you work with children right ?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSqQX7VF8Bw

You know with what kind of person you deal...

It should be a requirement to use your real name on this forum... it would cut down on the trolling dramatically.  I have absolutely zero problem with peoples real name being published if they are acting like ass hats on the internet.  If you want to act like an idiot, you better be prepared to tie your horse to that wagon.  Doing it anonymously is unacceptable, and I have zero sympathy for whiney little brats who want to fling poo all over the internet  and not suffer the real life repercussions, such as they might be.

It's why I routinely use the real name of the super trolls like Christian "Xian" Antkow, Darrin "Bicknellski" Bicknell, etc... when people do a Google search on their names, they should be identified for exactly what they are and it should follow them forever more.  Hopefully it will be a deterrent to others from acting in completely irrational, crazy manner as a matter of routine.  Probably fighting against the tide with that one, but what can you do. 

P.S. In before 'Hurrr durrr look at you!' ... yes, look at me.  I own my posts.  I don't hide behind the anonymity of the internet, for better or worse on what I post, as least I own it, which is far more than I can say for most of the super-trolls around here.

I'd normally not rise to the trolling, but in the interest of accuracy— as I did point this out previously: I've never been paid by BFL or received any hardware from them.

And, regardless, I do not have some mysterious cosmic power that enables me to unpublish your name, no matter how much I might want it.

hey now, he got paid.

he's not biting the hands that feed him.

Hmm so you don't like that? Where were you when tard Inaba disclosed customers name like Xian01 or Bicknellski?

taking there money

Seriously, to allow BFL to advertise here when the majority of the community wish nothing more to do with them as a disgrace.

Yes, allow Anaba his fun posting (providing no names ext) but hang a big fat warning over his and the related members posts.

But advertising, shame on you. Shame for the community.

Let the members of the forum vote on this issue and act with the community interests.

Sad. Freedom is gone.

1. doxed by BFL

Having your real personal information (e.g. name, address, phone number) discovered and revealed on the Internet, destroying anonymity
when you post negative on BFL.

That's how "bullies" work...I know,my jr high school days were hell.You try being a orange haired,glasses wearing,95 lb kid,back in the early 70's

Well,I'm not that kid anymore 

It's the only way he can hurt anyone,by defamation & doxxing.He's got no other way.Josh is a pussy,pure & simple & his little entourage is his ego 

Good luck Bick,you have more honor in the tip of your little finger than Josh & his cronies will ever have 

The paradox remains. One can see posts calling out HF from a moderator yet none calling out BFL. That to me is the take away. The community needs to protect itself from BFL and HF and not rely on the mods to be there to do anything about egregious and predatory behavior of these companies and their spokesmen and women. Noting that if you go after BFL or HF or any other company the mods will not be their to moderate the attacks from said spokesmen on our practice to get facts out to the community.

Time to move forward and have some people use multiple secondary accounts so that they can remain anonymous when posting against the likes of BFL. It is the only safe way to do it. Personally my livelihood was threatened by Inaba on a number of occasions with lies and defamatory comments some of which still remain in my trust on this forum and in the multiple threads. I would respectfully submit that no one is safe to post without fear of threats and defamation especially with regards to BFL and their hatchetmen. So much for a "free" forum it is a sad day when you have to HIDE behind a pseudonym just to tell the truth, the ignore button can't protect me from that unfortunately.

Guy's,BFL pays the bills here...........nuff said 

 I need to conclude that these forums are not run with the protection and safety of its patrons as a basic tenant.

 Suggesting using the ignore button is a cop-out straw man, and does not inherently solve the problems.

So basically the forum is unmoderated and rules for posting are merely suggestions. Got it. Why are we even bothering discussing this then? I'll just go back to reporting Inaba on a regular basis as I come across his quotes in thread that are defamatory and continually hit BFL over the head with their own customers complaints as shaming them is the only thing that might save just one person from buying into BFL. I am sure you know what I mean.