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Quote from: Xian01 on January 01, 2014, 03:09:10 AM

Yes. Yes you do. Stop trying to find a rationale to not do the right thing. Doesn't look good on you, these forums, or the Bitcoin community.

No, I don't. And that simply isn't how this forum is run. Use the ignore button. My powers are limited to deleting posts and threads, moving threads, editing posts, locking, stickying, and wagging my finger— and all just in the subforums where I am a moderator. If it makes you feel better go ahead and keep on imagining that I'm a misbehaving servant and that you can get something by trying to order me around or impugning my character. My ignore button works fine too, seemingly better than yours. Tongue

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Quote from: Xian01 on January 01, 2014, 03:09:10 AM

Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

Yes. Yes you do. Stop trying to find a rationale to not do the right thing. Doesn't look good on you, these forums, or the Bitcoin community.

+1 Evidence is there. Repeated time and time again. You need to rectify this Gmax.

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Quote from: Bicknellski on January 01, 2014, 03:02:14 AM

Quote from: Entropy-uc on January 01, 2014, 03:00:15 AM

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Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

What do you want— if its active threats, sure— I'll remove them just to keep the tone more polite. But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

There is clearly a PATTERN.

If you can't moderate based on that what good is it having moderation.

There is a concerted effort to defame people and lie and having had to report more than 20 to 30 of these alone from Inaba on my reputation at what point does a sanction get implemented? I get you are busy and have a life and all but at some point you know what is happening here right. I am just one person that has been lied about continuously by the "pro"BFL types and Inaba himself.

What can you do? Warn em. Ban em. Right? It isn't about freedom of speech or openness it about people purposefully intending to derail every thread that negatively reflects the REALITY of the BFL situation. At some point you have to be an honest arbiter in this do you not?

I do think you're being too hard on gmaxwell specifically.

The problem is far above him.

Hint: it would be the guy who profited by withdrawing all his funds from the pirate ponzi before it collapsed

There are social and business networks driving activities on this site that simply aren't visible to the casual visitor.

If he can't fix the fucking problem don't try and weigh in on HF and other scams. I get a bit pissed-off at the regularity of the BFL personal attacks without any repercussions. At some point you have to moderate or quit. I respect the Gmaxwell he is more than moderately intelligent and a fair minded person but at some point you have to do the job. All I am asking.

seriously: just put josh on ignore. He never has anything constructive to contribute so you will miss absolutely nothing. You might not like his personal attacks, I certainly don't, but you should realize that absolutely no one gives the man any credibility here any longer.

Have you ever asked yourself why he has so much rage? It's the knowledge that he has absolutely zero influence in this community.

I have had him on Ignore as I have Slok and BCP19. But the pattern continues. Doesn't matter if we report it, ignore it or respond to it. The pattern remains and it is clear there is no excuse for allowing that sort of flagrant misuse of this forum. It is farce at best the guidelines imposed here if you continue to allow it to happen. I seriously want people to be WARNED off BFL and I think that is something that has VALUE in this community. It is our job to do that given that the Moderators are not doing this, they have basically said just in this thread you are "stupid" for buying BFL. I agree. BFL is not a good choice for your BTC or $ and that is proven time and time again by the posts in their own forums on reddit and here in this forum.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

Yes. Yes you do. Stop trying to find a rationale to not do the right thing. Doesn't look good on you, these forums, or the Bitcoin community.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 03:03:51 AM

You've reported Inaba 27 times, Bicknellski. There is a pattern, indeed. But I suspect that pattern is you being far too easily trolled for the norms on Bitcointalk. Bringing up the moderator interface there are a bunch of reviewed and rejected reports from you (not just or even mostly ignored me, I believe)— apparently not me or MiningBuddy or any of the global mods who've seen these reports thought they were suitable to respond to (I think maybe removed a post or to here or there when they were flagrantly and completely off-topic—).

LOL.... easily trolled.

My word how simplistic.

You would think at 27 I would simply give up.

Look through what I have posted and what he has posted you tell me who is being easily trolled.

If you don't want to moderate then don't but don't come off like you don't see what this guy is doing purposefully every time he posts. It isn't just me. The doxxing of Xian01 repeatedly is something that is just beyond me. You can throw the blame back on those posting FACTS and EVIDENCE but really at what point do you jump in and sanction someone if ever? There is a pattern. We all see it. What will the moderators do to rectify this?

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You've reported Inaba 27 times, Bicknellski. There is a pattern, indeed. But I suspect that pattern is you being far too easily trolled for the norms on Bitcointalk. Bringing up the moderator interface there are a bunch of reviewed and rejected reports from you (not just or even mostly ignored me, I believe)— apparently not me or MiningBuddy or any of the global mods who've seen these reports thought they were suitable to respond to (I think maybe removed a post or to here or there when they were flagrantly and completely off-topic—).

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Quote from: Entropy-uc on January 01, 2014, 03:00:15 AM

Quote from: Bicknellski on January 01, 2014, 02:55:39 AM

Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

What do you want— if its active threats, sure— I'll remove them just to keep the tone more polite. But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

There is clearly a PATTERN.

If you can't moderate based on that what good is it having moderation.

There is a concerted effort to defame people and lie and having had to report more than 20 to 30 of these alone from Inaba on my reputation at what point does a sanction get implemented? I get you are busy and have a life and all but at some point you know what is happening here right. I am just one person that has been lied about continuously by the "pro"BFL types and Inaba himself.

What can you do? Warn em. Ban em. Right? It isn't about freedom of speech or openness it about people purposefully intending to derail every thread that negatively reflects the REALITY of the BFL situation. At some point you have to be an honest arbiter in this do you not?

I do think you're being too hard on gmaxwell specifically.

The problem is far above him.

Hint: it would be the guy who profited by withdrawing all his funds from the pirate ponzi before it collapsed

There are social and business networks driving activities on this site that simply aren't visible to the casual visitor.

If he can't fix the fucking problem don't try and weigh in on HF and other scams. I get a bit pissed-off at the regularity of the BFL personal attacks without any repercussions. At some point you have to moderate or quit. I respect Gmaxwell he is more than moderately intelligent and a fair minded person but at some point you have to do the job. All I am asking. This is why I am astonished he doesn't do more considering what he knows of the situation. I find it hard to believe that Inaba is looking to help promote dialogue about BFL failures and looking for solutions. Every post he makes is an derogatory and not within any bounds of discussion. I think we can all see that right?

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Quote from: Bicknellski on January 01, 2014, 02:55:39 AM

Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

What do you want— if its active threats, sure— I'll remove them just to keep the tone more polite. But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

There is clearly a PATTERN.

If you can't moderate based on that what good is it having moderation.

There is a concerted effort to defame people and lie and having had to report more than 20 to 30 of these alone from Inaba on my reputation at what point does a sanction get implemented? I get you are busy and have a life and all but at some point you know what is happening here right. I am just one person that has been lied about continuously by the "pro"BFL types and Inaba himself.

What can you do? Warn em. Ban em. Right? It isn't about freedom of speech or openness it about people purposefully intending to derail every thread that negatively reflects the REALITY of the BFL situation. At some point you have to be an honest arbiter in this do you not?

I do think you're being too hard on gmaxwell specifically.

The problem is far above him.

Hint: it would be the guy who profited by withdrawing all his funds from the pirate ponzi before it collapsed

There are social and business networks driving activities on this site that simply aren't visible to the casual visitor.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on January 01, 2014, 02:51:52 AM

What do you want— if its active threats, sure— I'll remove them just to keep the tone more polite. But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

There is clearly a PATTERN.

If you can't moderate based on that what good is it having moderation.

There is a concerted effort to defame people and lie and having had to report more than 20 to 30 of these alone from Inaba on my reputation at what point does a sanction get implemented? I get you are busy and have a life and all but at some point you know what is happening here right. I am just one person that has been lied about continuously by the "pro"BFL types and Inaba himself.

What can you do? Warn em. Ban em. Right? It isn't about freedom of speech or openness it about people purposefully intending to derail every thread that negatively reflects the REALITY of the BFL situation. At some point you have to be an honest arbiter in this do you not? Doesn't matter if I stay on topic and post ONLY about the topic... at some point Inaba Slok or BCP19 and or others will come along and attack the person not the information. That has to stop no? You seem to think we all enjoy this constant negativity? We don't we want to have honest and open discussions about things that affect us all and to be honest you know and I know BFL has not been a willing participant here to being honest and open. They with almost every post try to derail the topics.

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What do you want— if its active threats, sure— I'll remove them just to keep the tone more polite. But disclosing someone's name? I do not have a flyswatter big-enough to put a cork back in the genie.

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Quote from: Xian01 on December 31, 2013, 03:11:24 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 02:42:43 PM

WRT offtopic, things which are not at all related to the buying and selling of hardware— including garbage like posting pictures of various peoples family member and other grade-school rubbish are offtopic and they're going to get moved. If you don't like it, stay the @#$@ out of the subforum.

But doxxing... Doxxing is OK.

+1 Where are the mods on this?

It is clear that has happened and NOTHING has been done. No warnings? No bans?

That is just beyond belief.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 06:54:53 PM

Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:57:08 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 03:38:43 PM

Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:30:44 PM

I am talking about nearly every thread created by BFL pitching their ASICs in the late spring / early summer of 2012 being hidden in off-topic.

Hm? Link me to some of them.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitforce-sc-full-custom-asic-83985
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/id-be-treated-with-more-respect-if-i-paid-18k-at-a-car-dealership-89922
I'm sure there are many more, but that should be enough to make the point.

"I'd be treated with more respect if I paid 18K at a car dealership." isn't a thread created by BFL pitching their ASIC.

The other is though, heck if I remember why it was moved— and it was _probably_ me that did it, as I think I've done most of the thread moves in the form. If it was it might have been because by the end of it was totally offtopic and I wanted people to start new ones, or it could have just been a mistake. I'll ask that it be moved back.

A lot of both the PRO and ANTI BFL people behaved in ways that made me think they were double-agents really shilling for the opposite side. I've seldom seen behavior so reprehensible.

It got badly out of hand.

Of course, in the same time frame if you said pirateat40 was running a ponzi scheme, or mining bonds were an investment designed to part fools from their money you would be flamed into oblivion.

It's a shame the message of "I'd be treated with more respect if I paid 18K at a car dealership." didn't get through. The idea that it is reasonable to pay 100% upfront months in advance of delivery has cost many, many people on here huge chunks of money. I did spectacularly well investing in FPGAs that everyone thought were worthless because of the fraud perpetrated on this community by BFL.

Better yet, they soaked up most investment money interested in Bitcoin so difficulty stayed largely flat from June '12 to Feb '13.

Thanks Josh! :-)

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Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:57:08 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 03:38:43 PM

Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:30:44 PM

I am talking about nearly every thread created by BFL pitching their ASICs in the late spring / early summer of 2012 being hidden in off-topic.

Hm? Link me to some of them.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitforce-sc-full-custom-asic-83985
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/id-be-treated-with-more-respect-if-i-paid-18k-at-a-car-dealership-89922
I'm sure there are many more, but that should be enough to make the point.

"I'd be treated with more respect if I paid 18K at a car dealership." isn't a thread created by BFL pitching their ASIC.

The other is though, heck if I remember why it was moved— and it was _probably_ me that did it, as I think I've done most of the thread moves in the form. If it was it might have been because by the end of it was totally offtopic and I wanted people to start new ones, or it could have just been a mistake. I'll ask that it be moved back.

A lot of both the PRO and ANTI BFL people behaved in ways that made me think they were double-agents really shilling for the opposite side. I've seldom seen behavior so reprehensible.

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Quote from: SirWizz on December 31, 2013, 04:13:25 PM

Heh, I have one of the mods on this subforum on ignore, the guy is a disaster as a moderator IMHO. Crumbs might have stepped on a few toes but I didn't see any reason for him to be banned (not that I have read ALL his posts but what I have read would not have qualified for the ban hammer).

Bring back crumbs, I miss the old chap! Grin

Crumbs went way overboard.

Make your point, defend yourself against attacks, and move on. 50 posts a day in the same thread really didn't help his case. I actually started to suspect he was there to make the naysayers look bad.

I think most of the activity in Activemining threads is one person talking to his socks.

I think someone needs to take a close look in the mirror, lol!

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Heh, I have one of the mods on this subforum on ignore, the guy is a disaster as a moderator IMHO. Crumbs might have stepped on a few toes but I didn't see any reason for him to be banned (not that I have read ALL his posts but what I have read would not have qualified for the ban hammer).

Bring back crumbs, I miss the old chap! Grin

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 03:38:43 PM

Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:30:44 PM

I am talking about nearly every thread created by BFL pitching their ASICs in the late spring / early summer of 2012 being hidden in off-topic.

Hm? Link me to some of them.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitforce-sc-full-custom-asic-83985

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/id-be-treated-with-more-respect-if-i-paid-18k-at-a-car-dealership-89922

I'm sure there are many more, but that should be enough to make the point.

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Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 02:42:43 PM

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WRT offtopic, things which are not at all related to the buying and selling of hardware— including garbage like posting pictures of various peoples family member and other grade-school rubbish are offtopic and they're going to get moved. If you don't like it, stay the @#$@ out of the subforum.
/

Wait a sec, would you be talking about the picture of one of Active Mining's directors? The one where he's tied up in the trunk of a 70s Dodge parked smack in the middle of an empty warehouse? The warehouse that was supposed to be Active Mining's sole production facility?
That family picture?
Since Ken's company is staffed exclusively by people whose last names are "Slaughter," it's kind'o tough to talk about the company without dragging the family into the pic.

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Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 03:30:44 PM

I am talking about nearly every thread created by BFL pitching their ASICs in the late spring / early summer of 2012 being hidden in off-topic.

Hm? Link me to some of them.

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I have Inaba on ignore. But I assume he's busy claiming to not be a liar. Here is case in point, posted today:

Quote from: elaramus on December 31, 2013, 03:33:52 PM

Update on BFL Black Friday Jalapeno purchase:

I've only opened two so far. One of the 9Gh/s models was running extremely hot (75c) so this was my first victim/patient. I opened it and found 3 chips installed (new version), firmware 2.92 label, a test date of 12/21 (so much for "in stock for immediate delivery"), and the fan blowing down onto the chips. I flipped the fan, replaced the thermal pad with artic silver alumina, put a layer of alumina between the bottom of the board and the aluminum plate and it is now running at 9+ Gh/s at a much more reasonable 61c.

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Quote from: Entropy-uc on December 31, 2013, 12:55:55 PM

Quote from: gmaxwell on December 31, 2013, 12:45:05 AM

Quote from: pankkake on December 30, 2013, 08:27:50 PM

And since many mods are probably "invested" in these scams, what else to expect?

Wait. I can get paid for our communities inability to keep from getting itself ripped off???

How many threads full of BFL's lies from 2012 were moved from this forum to 'OFF-TOPIC'?

Moderators have taken an active and quite biased role in the development of this ridiculous business model.

That's easy to answer! The answer is 0. You're the only proven liar here so far that I know of. The moderators need to moderate more and remove all the trash that clogs up this subforum... if they were "in" on anything, they'd be removing all the useless junk people like you post. Since your utter trash remains, it stands to reason the mods aren't "in" on anything... if only they were, life would be so much more pleasant without people like you around, spewing lie after lie because you are butthurt over something trivial.

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