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legendary
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April 04, 2018, 08:44:55 PM
#5
I can think of a few easy ways right now like why are we even allowing newbies to post in the lending section? At least they shouldn't be able to start threads, most of them are scams and while there are definitely members stopping them like vod and others I still find it weird that everyone cares so much about spam and not enough about scams.

No thanks, I've gotten decent profit off of loans to people like max2607 who offer valid altcoin collateral that covers all of their loan. Newbies looking for a loan are usually scammers, but not always. I'd hate to lose the legitimate loan requests just because someone was stupid enough to lend to a very new account without any collateral.

There are a lot of people fighting scams too, and restricting those with negative trust from opening marketplace threads doesn't really help; they'll just switch to a new account. You don't hear about the scammers very often because scamming someone is black and white, unlike spamming/merit farming. If you're scammed; you don't trust that user. I doubt scammers will bother asking people to reconsider

You have a point but there have to be ways to prevent more scams just like there are ways to prevent spam, I was just talking about the fact that most people seem to be concerned a little bit too much with spam or at least make it seem like they are concerned.

What else do you propose we do? Restricting Newbie posts in the Lending section isn't going to help much; if someone was going to give a Newbie with zero reputation and no incentive to repay a loan, chances are they'll get scammed.

Negative trust preventing people from opening new threads will just cause people to switch to alts, like I mentioned. Aside from banning ICOs on the forum entirely, there's not much to be done that would really help. There's way too many ICOs, and new ones launching every day. My guess is that most of them will be scams, but it's hard to tell as they rarely provide any actual information. People were investing in Bitconnect for crying out loud, despite them having negative trust, and obvious fake promises.

If you have any new ideas, I'm sure people would like to hear them, but complaining about the lack of scam protection without offering any good ideas or proof that there really is a lack (Meta being quiet isn't really an indicator) is a bad idea and isn't going to get you anywhere.
hero member
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April 04, 2018, 06:04:38 PM
#4
I can think of a few easy ways right now like why are we even allowing newbies to post in the lending section? At least they shouldn't be able to start threads, most of them are scams and while there are definitely members stopping them like vod and others I still find it weird that everyone cares so much about spam and not enough about scams.

No thanks, I've gotten decent profit off of loans to people like max2607 who offer valid altcoin collateral that covers all of their loan. Newbies looking for a loan are usually scammers, but not always. I'd hate to lose the legitimate loan requests just because someone was stupid enough to lend to a very new account without any collateral.

There are a lot of people fighting scams too, and restricting those with negative trust from opening marketplace threads doesn't really help; they'll just switch to a new account. You don't hear about the scammers very often because scamming someone is black and white, unlike spamming/merit farming. If you're scammed; you don't trust that user. I doubt scammers will bother asking people to reconsider

You have a point but there have to be ways to prevent more scams just like there are ways to prevent spam, I was just talking about the fact that most people seem to be concerned a little bit too much with spam or at least make it seem like they are concerned.
hero member
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April 04, 2018, 05:36:24 PM
#3
It's not that there is no one preventing scams anymore it's more of the central topic of the forum right now is fighting spam. It is just the current trend. Of course preventing scams are still top priority, but right now people are just really hyped up about the new system that has somewhat effectively curtailed the entry of spammers in terms of stopping the account farmers to easily create new accounts and level them up.

About the ICOs, well that's another thing. Usually, most of the ICOs look legit on paper or on its face, and no one can really produce evidence that would cause people to turn those away. Usually the forum fights scams if there is proof of such, but there are ICOs that turn into a huge scam when from the onset they have perfectly executed their plan.

As an investor you should really be diligent in your investing. You can't really be investing in every ICO that comes up, can you? There are a lot of ICO that seems rubbish from the start anyway, and if you carefully scan them you will clearly see that there are only a few of them that you should consider. Sometimes it is just a matter of the gullible being tricked because there were already a lot of signs that it should have been avoided but ignored and not because the forum was not vigilant.
legendary
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April 04, 2018, 05:31:17 PM
#2
I can think of a few easy ways right now like why are we even allowing newbies to post in the lending section? At least they shouldn't be able to start threads, most of them are scams and while there are definitely members stopping them like vod and others I still find it weird that everyone cares so much about spam and not enough about scams.

No thanks, I've gotten decent profit off of loans to people like max2607 who offer valid altcoin collateral that covers all of their loan. Newbies looking for a loan are usually scammers, but not always. I'd hate to lose the legitimate loan requests just because someone was stupid enough to lend to a very new account without any collateral.

There are a lot of people fighting scams too, and restricting those with negative trust from opening marketplace threads doesn't really help; they'll just switch to a new account. You don't hear about the scammers very often because scamming someone is black and white, unlike spamming/merit farming. If you're scammed; you don't trust that user. I doubt scammers will bother asking people to reconsider
hero member
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April 04, 2018, 05:23:24 PM
#1
It seems to me that most of the posts here are bout merits and spam/shitposting. There are a few posts about scams but most are about merits and spam and I'm not saying it's ok to have spam but isn't more important to stop scams? Has anyone seen all the articles about how many scams happen in the cryptocurrency world? Like this: https://news.bitcoin.com/9-million-day-lost-cryptocurrency-scams/

This forum is certainly part of the problem, most ICO's are advertised here quite freely, a ton of scams do happen here daily as well yet everyone seems so concerned with spam. I have seen people with -16 trust creating signature campaign threads and people joining them, sure it's their fault for joining but why are they even allowed to open such threads?

I can think of a few easy ways right now like why are we even allowing newbies to post in the lending section? At least they shouldn't be able to start threads, most of them are scams and while there are definitely members stopping them like vod and others I still find it weird that everyone cares so much about spam and not enough about scams.
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