Topic: [SCAM][SPAM] User "bitcoinicon" selling corrupted Bitcoin wallet (Read 1965 times)

Here is the main investigation thread, I will update this thread regularly and will create separate threads for each of these so called people. If you have been a victim and have lost your reputation or business as a result of false allegations on Bitcointalk.org please get in touch, I also have a mailing list there where I will share legal best practice.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcointalk-ring-exposed-2079010

To be honest, Lauda didn't start this. This guy already received some negative feedback by the time Lauda showed up.
There is no need to fight, you just have a different opinion then us.

When I see them actively trying to make up for their mistake, helping out to prevent similar scams in the future I am willing to forgive them. Malicious or stupid is not decidable from here. Maybe I shouldnt be so forgiving, but thats who I am. Since you benefit from this as well, maybe just for once, you and the others that tend to follow you can not make this another shit show. Im trying to mitigate further damage, while you again torch the earth.

When I see them actively trying to make up for their mistake, helping out to prevent similar scams in the future I am willing to forgive them.

2) I am threatening lawsuits you are correct on the following grounds and I am not going to hold back on this! http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/civil-litigation/defamation-character-lawsuit-proving-harm.html

As there seems to be a group of people here hell bent on only destroying the name I work under you removing your feedback is not enough, you will need to work with your little clan of turds to do the same.
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They can then all leave you turds feedback about how to go around damaging other peoples feedback... You all deserve that, and I have a fair few subscribers and a very large mailing list.

Maybe I shouldnt be so forgiving, but thats who I am.

Since you benefit from this as well..

..maybe just for once, you and the others that tend to follow you can not make this another shit show.

Im trying to mitigate further damage, while you again torch the earth.

Water is wet, but apparently not for bitcoinicon. Have fun with your lawsuit in case that you don't remove the negative rating.

Just my 2 cents here, but this will lead to nothing.

It's clear that several people have been conned by this particular wallet (not that the wallet-selling-scam is anything new). It also seems that at least a couple of people have been reselling this wallet, possibly without the knowledge that it's empty or broken, or possibly with that knowledge.

FWIW, there's no hard evidence that I've found which implicates anyone in this thread (or the others referenced) of being the creator of this wallet / original scammer, so I personally see no reason to assume malice on anyone's part. On the other hand, reselling this wallet (or any for that matter) is at the very best terribly irresponsible.

I wouldn't think this needs saying, but buying a wallet of dubious origin is never a good idea. It's trivial to create a wealthy-looking wallet which appears undoctored but is actually devoid of any spendable funds. This particular wallet is not an example of this (it's obviously messed up in several ways), but the bottom line is: caveat emptor!


Anybody with a full node and the wallet.dat in question can verify that it contains no spendable funds. (This is not true in general, but is true for this particular wallet.) The email where I was quoted above (highlighted in way-too-much-red) shows how to do this.


I don't mean to pick on you, but claiming that your are "in crypto full time" and at the same time were unable to see any problems with this wallet (some of which were very much related to cryptographic mistakes) does little to advance your credibility IMO.

I did none of the above but you have your head so far up your snake butt that you cant see straight. This has gone way above redemption, it's not about making sure you all pay for not talking the time to give me the benefit of the doubt.

You're definitely on the right path towards redemption by:
1) Spamming fake negative ratings.
2) Threatening users.
3) Creating, likely, shill accounts to leave positive trust ratings to yourself.

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Users like this usually do the most damage to themselves post an accusation.

It is not a "false statement" when you are actively promoting it without doing any tests to prove that it is real in the first place. Its actually quite time consuming and expensive to sue people for defamation, especially when you most probably won't win the lawsuit. Oh yeah, it might be quite hard to sue people overseas too.
Just a reminder, the negative feedback you gave implies that "Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.". Retaliatory feedback do not work in this forum.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt and I will consider to remove MY feedback as long as you can prove that you have compensated for everyone who was affected by your sale of wallet fairly.
Sure.

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You seem to be avoiding the issue on providing the TXID.

2)I am threatening lawsuits you are correct on the following grounds and I am not going to hold back on this! http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/civil-litigation/defamation-character-lawsuit-proving-harm.html

3) I am not leaving fake feedback! I am making sure people know that you all are only out to damage my reputation regardless of anything I do to correct it so I will make sure that I follow through with what I have been working on over the last couple of days.

I have already emailed all 4 people that bought this wallet, not one of them complained it was fake and I had no idea that it was even possible to fake a wallet. I run a Youtube channel and website linked to this name that you all are trying to sabotage. I have many youtube subscribers and a mailing list of people, the same way you lot have carelessly left me feedback without giving me the benefit of the doubt they all will post feedback for you on how you have been working together to damage my reputation.

I have websites, email address, Bitcoin talk handles and a few other things you people think you can hid behind Bitcoin talk but you are wrong. I will be creating a main thread for this whole issue and separate threads for each person involved. Some of you have gone as far as posting on my customers threads, for this there needs to be some sort of example made in this cesspool of snakes called Bitcoin talk.

I love surprising arrogant little turds like you...

Yes you did. Failing to admit wrongdoing makes you even more shady.

Threatening people around here usually results in a negative rating. Go ahead and sue a cat for leaving you a negative rating on the interweb.

Why would shorena (and me) want to damage your reputation? You have no reputation to begin with, idiot.

Yep, I've heard that story quite the number of times from people who have threatened me in the past. I'm still waiting for someone to show up.

1) I did absolutely nothing intentionally

2)I am threatening lawsuits you are correct on the following grounds and I am not going to hold back on this! http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/civil-litigation/defamation-character-lawsuit-proving-harm.html

3) I am not leaving fake feedback! I am making sure people know that you all are only out to damage my reputation regardless of anything I do to correct it so I will make sure that I follow through with what I have been working on over the last couple of days.

I have websites, email address, Bitcoin talk handles and a few other things you people think you can hid behind Bitcoin talk but you are wrong.

Even if you return the money to any *past* customers, your negative trust ratings won't be removed as:
1) You intentionally did what you did.
2) You're threatening other people with lawsuits.
3) You're leaving fake retaliatory ratings.

This guy left a very weird negative feedback today for me
"I have since been offered reputation services to the cost of $4000 to clear my Bitcoin talk name" and referenced this topic.
Now I have him on the ignore list since he was annoying, but I see no one offering him any services here...

Please also see this thread for proof of communication with a buyer I refunded and an email where I said I no longer sell the wallet months ago.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2065259.new#new

Here you can see that I was accused of scamming user qasimilyas99 by user aleksej996


When you look at the feedback its user qasimilyas99 that was accused of scamming people with this wallet

Even if you return the money to any *past* customers, your negative trust ratings won't be removed as:
1) You intentionally did what you did.
2) You're threatening other people with lawsuits.
3) You're leaving fake retaliatory ratings.