Topic: [SCAM][SPAM] User "bitcoinicon" selling corrupted Bitcoin wallet - page 2. (Read 2014 times)

Even if you return the money to any *past* customers, your negative trust ratings won't be removed as:
1) You intentionally did what you did.
2) You're threatening other people with lawsuits.
3) You're leaving fake retaliatory ratings.

Please also see this thread for proof of communication with a buyer I refunded and an email where I said I no longer sell the wallet months ago.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2065259.new#new

Here you can see that I was accused of scamming user qasimilyas99 by user aleksej996


When you look at the feedback its user qasimilyas99 that was accused of scamming people with this wallet

I do logo contests, threads, trading and websites I am not a crypto creator. I do not create currencies so the fact that I am full time in crypo does not suggest that I am the one who created this wallet. I have said over and over I had NO idea it was even possible to do this!!! I will do a lie detector test to prove my innocence. Also since this has happened I have been offered reputation services to the cost of $4000?? How convenient!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's clear that several people have been conned by this particular wallet (not that the wallet-selling-scam is anything new). It also seems that at least a couple of people have been reselling this wallet, possibly without the knowledge that it's empty or broken, or possibly with that knowledge.

FWIW, there's no hard evidence that I've found which implicates anyone in this thread (or the others referenced) of being the creator of this wallet / original scammer, so I personally see no reason to assume malice on anyone's part. On the other hand, reselling this wallet (or any for that matter) is at the very best terribly irresponsible.

I wouldn't think this needs saying, but buying a wallet of dubious origin is never a good idea. It's trivial to create a wealthy-looking wallet which appears undoctored but is actually devoid of any spendable funds. This particular wallet is not an example of this (it's obviously messed up in several ways), but the bottom line is: caveat emptor!


Anybody with a full node and the wallet.dat in question can verify that it contains no spendable funds. (This is not true in general, but is true for this particular wallet.) The email where I was quoted above (highlighted in way-too-much-red) shows how to do this.


I don't mean to pick on you, but claiming that your are "in crypto full time" and at the same time were unable to see any problems with this wallet (some of which were very much related to cryptographic mistakes) does little to advance your credibility IMO.

I am telling you that I did not sell this wallet knowing that it was not real as I am led to believe. I am willing to do I lie detector test to prove my innocence. What you and the rest of your crew are doing is damaging my reputation based on the assumption that intentionally acted with the intent to scam, this my friend is not the case so you are the one on the wrong side of the law.

The only negative feedback I have is from your crew claiming I am a scammer.

Right now,you're the one with -8 negative feedback for scamming,stealing bitcoins,cheating and promoting a potential scam all over the internet.What makes you think the law will work in your favor ? The place where I'm from,you could go to jail for several years if in your position at the moment.

Well you seem to be the one that is not familiar with the law, not me. I have the means to get to where you are no matter what it takes.

And you left me 2 negative retaliatory feedbacks ? You think you can really take me to the court from across 7 seas ? What  are you going to tell the judges ? That you were dumb enough to get duped by a 12 year old who sold you fake wallet lol ? Cool bro.

Thank you, I have already refunded one of the buyers and have three left to go. I have already deleted the wallet from my laptop and sever in a fit of anger so cant post it but I'm sure the guy that made the thread that everyone was trying to get the wallet from has it. I'm more than happy to do the video for educational purposes and will do so.

Evidence of buying the wallet file and receiving the refund? Transaction ID and signed message? Proof of communication?

I'm buyer of wallet.dat, today I have received email from bitcoinicon and he informed me about the bad news, he was in shocked but I was also in shocked due to this bad news, bitcoinicon sent my payment back to me, I want to say he is cooperative person and thank you so much.

I have no power over them, but I would appreciate if we stayed on topic here. If there should be anything wrong with a contest you did or didnt hold or an ICO or something else, its perfectly fine to make a new thread about it. Present proof - if any - and ask for DT support if needed.

A new video, maybe with the help of gurnec if they are willing to chime in, would IMHO be a good step for several reasons. For one its better for your reputation than threads. It also helps spreading awareness of this potential problem. I dont know of a similar case. Depending on your youtube and social media skills, you could also monetize the video to help partially cover for your loses.

Speaking of loses, IIRC you said you got 0.1 BTC each for the file, sold it 4 times and that its been a while. Considering the significant price change of BTC I dont think its fair to expect you to repay the full 0.1 BTC each. Maybe adjust by preev rate of last deal or something. I would also expect those claiming a refund to somehow be able to provide evidence that they bought the file from you.

and maybe for education's sake put the zip file with the wallet back online? Maybe with a short .txt note added or something so people finding old links know whats up.

I sold this file to 4 people, I will gladly send them a refund and create a new video. I would like make it clear that there is no reason for this guy to start targeting my customers work. I am going to fulfill the criteria of your requests and request that he stops posting malicious comments o my threads.

Look at what you are doing now, this thread was created after a logo context was that I ran for a customer!!!!! There is no reason why you have to do this to me! I have cooperated with you. I have even offered to talk with you to resolve this issue!! You have no intention to resold this you are simply a little turd that wants to damage my reputation and livelihood. If you think I am going to let you get away with what you are going you are wrong. You are all wrong! 

Thank you Shorena for stepping in. 

Bitcoinicon is trying hard to bullshit his way out of this after realizing that his account got to waste..

Also, seems like he is running a ICO scam, Dirhamcoin!

The website states that the coin collected 480 BTC.If, a coin collected such amount there would be at least some talk here on bitcointalk.. 
It's obvious that he is here to scam people, out of their money..

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.19290862
https://dirhamcoin.com/

Thats not how this works.


Feel free to find someone trustworthy that can confirm this and resolve the issue with the other party. I suggest you ask very nicely here -> https://github.com/gurnec/btcrecover/issues/85 for an expert option and provide as much information as needed.


The file itself was looked at by an expert and ruled to be intentionally corrupted.

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That might just mean that you have no idea what you are looking at.


No, its not. Considering the evidence it is very likely that you did this on purpose. Having to wait for your reply would give you more time to potentially scam more victims, thus the usual approach is to shoot a negative rating first and allow you to answer to it later.

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No. See above how to sort this. Neither my, nor your face has anything to do with this.

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Good luck. If you instead would like to resolve this issue, start repaying. If I may suggest; a second video explaining what is actually up with the file would also be a good idea IMHO.

This is the truth, I think you are simply out to damage my name... You have no intention to resolve this, you simply want to make me look bad so please accept that you are not as anonymous as you think. I've tried to be civil with you and I will have no choice but to take this up though legal action and through providing legal documentation to the forum.

In case you need to familiarize yourself with this
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/nolo/civil-litigation/defamation-character-lawsuit-proving-harm.html

Hmmm..I thought the answer would be like this...... 

I sent this from BITTREX a very long time ago and it was to someone online also to an email I no longer have.