Science and religion rarely or never really intersects.
Science is simply the discovering "stuff" that religion already knows is there.
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Science is simply the discovering "stuff" that religion already knows is there.
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
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the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
How does it reveal there is a creator or a designed? I already explained you the problem with saying that nature is designed. How do you know nature is designed?
The universe is a machine of machines. Machines have makers. Are you going to say that machine makers don't design their machines?
The universe is not a machine, not machines do not need makers therefore the universe doesn't have a maker. What kind of circular reasoning are you using here? The bullshit one? What is the definition of machine here?
The fact that the universe acts like a machine full of machines, and that all the machines of mankind are based on the machinery of nature, shows that the universe is a machine.
What is the definition of machine?
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
How does it reveal there is a creator or a designed? I already explained you the problem with saying that nature is designed. How do you know nature is designed?
The universe is a machine of machines. Machines have makers. Are you going to say that machine makers don't design their machines?
The universe is not a machine, not machines do not need makers therefore the universe doesn't have a maker. What kind of circular reasoning are you using here? The bullshit one? What is the definition of machine here?
The fact that the universe acts like a machine full of machines, and that all the machines of mankind are based on the machinery of nature, shows that the universe is a machine.
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
How does it reveal there is a creator or a designed? I already explained you the problem with saying that nature is designed. How do you know nature is designed?
The universe is a machine of machines. Machines have makers. Are you going to say that machine makers don't design their machines?
The universe is not a machine, not machines do not need makers therefore the universe doesn't have a maker. What kind of circular reasoning are you using here? The bullshit one? What is the definition of machine here?
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
How does it reveal there is a creator or a designed? I already explained you the problem with saying that nature is designed. How do you know nature is designed?
The universe is a machine of machines. Machines have makers. Are you going to say that machine makers don't design their machines?
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
How does it reveal there is a creator or a designed? I already explained you the problem with saying that nature is designed. How do you know nature is designed?
Science and religion rarely or never really intersects.
bible exists and is the will of god, q.e.d.
The scientific proof for the impossibility of the Bible, is more of the proof that God exists. What I mean is, when you look at the things that are written in the Bible, and the time periods that the things were written in, you can see that there is no way that people could have written with such "connectedness." So, the Bible is impossible, except that it exists. This shows that the guiding hand behind it is God.
Universal Salvation is the theological position that ALL people will be saved. This concept, present from the earliest days of Christianity, is supported by numerous verses in the Bible, second in number only to those advocating Salvation by Good Works.
https://www.near-death.com/religion/god-is-with-us/the-salvation-conspiracy-how-hell-became-eternal.html
Science is when you make hypotheses and and test them against empirical evidence. The primary function of science is to demonstrate the existence of phenomena that cannot be observed directly.
At the core of materialism, the fundamental component of existence - the nature of consciousness -- is intentionally ignored even though the pioneers of quantum mechanics demonstrated and believed consciousness has a definite role in creating reality. Mainstream materialist theories of consciousness use classical mechanics in assuming consciousness emerged and is produced from "goo"; this reductive materialism is not only incomplete but false. The authors of Irreducible Mind systematically marshal evidence for a variety of psychological phenomena that are extremely difficult, and in some cases clearly impossible, to account for in conventional physicalist terms.
The Case Against Naturalism
At the core of materialism, the fundamental component of existence - the nature of consciousness -- is intentionally ignored even though the pioneers of quantum mechanics demonstrated and believed consciousness has a definite role in creating reality. Mainstream materialist theories of consciousness use classical mechanics in assuming consciousness emerged and is produced from "goo"; this reductive materialism is not only incomplete but false. The authors of Irreducible Mind systematically marshal evidence for a variety of psychological phenomena that are extremely difficult, and in some cases clearly impossible, to account for in conventional physicalist terms.
The Case Against Naturalism
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
However, it shows that the Creator is really powerful, and that He is very intelligent, and that He is a very capable designer, and a few other things, as well.
Good place to start... with what science reveals about Him. Then, once you accept that He really exists, you can start to look for ways in which He might be revealing Himself to you in more detail. If you find enough of the right details, you might even find that He is offering you eternal life.
bible exists and is the will of god, q.e.d.
The scientific proof for the impossibility of the Bible, is more of the proof that God exists. What I mean is, when you look at the things that are written in the Bible, and the time periods that the things were written in, you can see that there is no way that people could have written with such "connectedness." So, the Bible is impossible, except that it exists. This shows that the guiding hand behind it is God.
bible exists and is the will of god, q.e.d.
The mere fact that our complex bodily functions are working is proof enough of God's great design.
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25792251
It has. Unfortunately none of that proves or shows what the creator is, if there is indeed a creator.
There wasn't any scientific proof for anything, until somebody developed the idea of scientific proof. Since then there is scientific proof for some things, but no scientific proof for many other things.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
Just because somebody hasn't seen the scientific proof doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Just saying that there isn't any scientific proof for God doesn't make it so, unless you can prove it. In the face of the scientific proof that has been shown:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380 ;
the proof has to be scientifically rebutted with real science. If it isn't, the proof stands.
There is no scientific proof that God really exists
THANK YOU!!!
That is the question the OP wanted answered.
Finally this thread can be closed!
There is no scientific proof that God really exists but if you are an anti-christ you won't believe that God is real. We christians have faith that God is real without any proof.
For a change I could provide a divine proof that science exists.
This is the best troll thread on this forum. I used to think PinkiePie and MatthewNWright were the king trolls here but you are the true king BADecker. The best part is that you know you’re full of shit and it’s obvious. Props to you troll master. LOL
He is not trolling. Why would someone troll for so long. They are delusional just like the dude from the flat earth thread, I thought he was a troll too but after you read his posts over and over you realize that he just has problems.
The only anonymous inter-webs characters I’ve ever seen use the Joe Cool smiley at the end of every post and never get upset when someone attacks them in a post are trolls.
Real people become angered when someone attacks them or their beliefs. Trolls don’t because that’s exactly the type of reaction they want to get from the real people so they smile and move on.
Could be but I think he is just too delusional and that's why he doesn't get mad. I believe his delusion is so strong that his brain just ignores good arguments and just keeps resetting.
I guess you could be right. That is, after all, how blind faith turns ‘live people’ into ‘dead people’.
This is the best troll thread on this forum. I used to think PinkiePie and MatthewNWright were the king trolls here but you are the true king BADecker. The best part is that you know you’re full of shit and it’s obvious. Props to you troll master. LOL
He is not trolling. Why would someone troll for so long. They are delusional just like the dude from the flat earth thread, I thought he was a troll too but after you read his posts over and over you realize that he just has problems.
The only anonymous inter-webs characters I’ve ever seen use the Joe Cool smiley at the end of every post and never get upset when someone attacks them in a post are trolls.
Real people become angered when someone attacks them or their beliefs. Trolls don’t because that’s exactly the type of reaction they want to get from the real people so they smile and move on.
Could be but I think he is just too delusional and that's why he doesn't get mad. I believe his delusion is so strong that his brain just ignores good arguments and just keeps resetting.
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