Scotland's silent majority decides against separation

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 23, 2014, 10:20:46 AM

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A survey, commissioned by Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft, said 71% of 16 to 17-year-olds voted for Scotland to be independent and 29% voted against.

That is a gigantic margin. In future, there is no doubt that Scotland will secede from England, unless the British find some way to neutralize this huge gap.

Most of the 16 to 17-year-olds get their money from parents as pocket money. When they'll learn how hard is to earn money with jobs, I suppose may start to revise their positions.

Quote from: Sindelar1938 on September 25, 2014, 12:27:39 AM

The vox populi has to be respected, kudos for the large turnout
As somebody said, shows the limits of nationalism absent economic rationality

Agreed. Kudos to all Scots!

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I don't understand this election stuff !!! if they always wanted to go with UK ..what was all that stuff about "free Scotland" . Huh

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The vox populi has to be respected, kudos for the large turnout
As somebody said, shows the limits of nationalism absent economic rationality

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http://www.sundaypost.com/that-s-life/memories/prince-edward-at-50-fifty-facts-you-didn-t-know-about-him-1.258332
24. In January 1987 he dropped out of training with the Royal Marines. It was said at the time that his father, the Captain General of the Marines, berated Edward and reduced him to tears. (gay)

28. In February 1988 he joined Andrew Lloyd Webber’s The Really Useful Theatre Group. (gay)

31. In 1990 Edward reacted angrily to persistent rumours he had more than a friendship with the singer Michael Ball. “I am not gay!” he told a reporter, adding: “It’s just outrageous to suggest this sort of thing. It’s so unfair to me and my family.” (gay)

42. The couple struggled to have a baby and used IVF treatment. (gay)

45. In 2001 Sophie made disparaging comments about her royal relations to an undercover reporter. In return for them not to be used fully she gave an interview to the News of the World and was mortified that the headline they used was ‘My Edward is Not Gay’. (gay)

46. The prince is considered pompous by palace staff. His chauffeur was reportedly informed he has to sit facing the front even if the car is stationary. (gay)

47. The couple still have a flat inside Buckingham Palace where their bed is covered in fluffy toy dogs and bears. (gay)

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Quote from: Mr.Bitty on September 24, 2014, 10:23:31 AM

That English shit Eamon de Valera was gay as Liberace.

Charles was the biggest faggot the royals had for some time, although Diana was a bit of a horse, Charles had no interest and wanted the company of a right old knackers yard hoofer Camilla, like a bloke in drag altogether.

Especially Edward number one poof. Andrew was a bit more of a hardcore swordsman out of the three brothers, prob fucked Diana if he had half a chance plus most of the loose skirt about in his day. Still he married and divorced a fat hoofer. All feckin' queers the lot of them.

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Quote from: Mr.Bitty on September 24, 2014, 10:23:31 AM

That English shit Eamon de Valera was gay as Liberace.

As gay as a may flower dandy as they say.
Auld Pilgrim Poem ..

I came on the boat to see americee,

I was rodgered by injuns in two's and three's,

I sucked a tribe dry ooh ma belly ached good,

I did it again for the whole neighbourhood.

chorus ..

Stockings and garters, ruffs and cuffs,

Stuff me hard up the chuff so rough,

Laces and bows and frills all dandy,

Fuck ma ass hard and call me Mandy.

repeat chorus ..

Stockings and garters, ruffs and cuffs,

Stuff me hard up the chuff so rough,

Laces and bows and frills all dandy,

Fuck ma ass hard and call me Mandy.

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Quote from: Mr.Bitty on September 24, 2014, 10:07:23 AM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The Scottish realized it is difficult to be hardcore Socialists when you run out of other people's money to spend. Staying in the UK means they can keep spending other people's money.

What a joke. Cheesy

Staying in the UK means that Westminster officials will continue to spend their money.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 24, 2014, 10:15:03 AM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 24, 2014, 09:45:14 AM

Quote from: Rigon on September 23, 2014, 01:53:22 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The stone of scone known as The Stone of Destiny or The Coronation Stone of the Kings of Tara (Ireland) was originally robbed from Ireland by one of the AWOL kings of Ireland.

It was taken across to Argyll (Scotland) by Scotland's first Irish King Fergus son of Erc in 1200 odd when many a ruling clan of Ireland would pop over to Scotland to sort things out there as the Irish had been populating Scotland for most of the last seven centuries from the 5th century, hence the familiar Gaelic language the Scots speak based on old Irish.

Scottish had the stone for over 6 centuries in England, it was captured by king Edward I and stored in Westminster Abbey and it was used for coronations because the Kings and Queens of England were also the Kings and Queens of Scotland . They gave the stone back to the Scottish in 96' as a symbolic gesture and there was a handover ceremony before it was taken to Edinburgh Castle.

It was offered back on loan to the Scots, but will still be taken when needed for royal coronations. More so, especially now the Scots are UK bitches and whoever needs to get crowned south of the border will just holler at the scots to get the feckin stone back down.

Yes, it will be used for coronations which is like once or twice a century, but it will always be given back to the Scots. And there will will never be a gay royal or prince/princess as it's not genetic and is due to up-bringing and liberal attitudes so I don't know why you mention this?

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That English shit Eamon de Valera was gay as Liberace.

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Just think though in the future if young English royals turn out to be gay ? What will happen if royal sons and daughters turn out to be chutney ferrets and carpet munchers ?

Will royal bosses ban gay boys and lesbo's and get less gay royals further down the chain to step up to the plate ? Is english royalism all a load of anti-gay fascist and gay bashing power hoarding, dashing for the big cash with no regard for sexual orientation ?

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Quote from: sana8410 on September 24, 2014, 09:45:14 AM

Quote from: Rigon on September 23, 2014, 01:53:22 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The stone of scone known as The Stone of Destiny or The Coronation Stone of the Kings of Tara (Ireland) was originally robbed from Ireland by one of the AWOL kings of Ireland.

It was taken across to Argyll (Scotland) by Scotland's first Irish King Fergus son of Erc in 1200 odd when many a ruling clan of Ireland would pop over to Scotland to sort things out there as the Irish had been populating Scotland for most of the last seven centuries from the 5th century, hence the familiar Gaelic language the Scots speak based on old Irish.

Scottish had the stone for over 6 centuries in England, it was captured by king Edward I and stored in Westminster Abbey and it was used for coronations because the Kings and Queens of England were also the Kings and Queens of Scotland . They gave the stone back to the Scottish in 96' as a symbolic gesture and there was a handover ceremony before it was taken to Edinburgh Castle.

It was offered back on loan to the Scots, but will still be taken when needed for royal coronations. More so, especially now the Scots are UK bitches and whoever needs to get crowned south of the border will just holler at the scots to get the feckin stone back down.

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Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The Scottish realized it is difficult to be hardcore Socialists when you run out of other people's money to spend. Staying in the UK means they can keep spending other people's money.

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The scots probably robbed bagpipes off the Irish or Europeans ...

Actual examples of bagpipes [in Scotland] from before the 18th century are extremely rare; however, a substantial number of paintings, carvings, engravings, manuscript illuminations, and so on survive.

Evidence of the bagpipe in Ireland occurs in 1581, when John Derrick's The Image of Irelande clearly depicts a bagpiper. Derrick's illustrations are considered to be reasonably faithful depictions of the attire and equipment of the English and Irish population of the 16th century. The "Battell" sequence from My Ladye Nevells Booke (1591) by William Byrd, which probably alludes to the Irish wars of 1578, contains a piece entitled The bagpipe: & the drone.

In the early part of the second millennium, bagpipes began to appear with frequency in European art and iconography. The Cantigas de Santa Maria, compiled in Castile in the mid-13th century, depicts several types of bagpipes. Though evidence of bagpipes in the British Isles prior to the 14th century is contested, bagpipes are explicitly mentioned in The Canterbury Tales (written around 1380): A baggepype wel coude he blowe and sowne, /And ther-with-al he broghte us out of towne.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 23, 2014, 01:53:22 PM

Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The stone of scone known as The Stone of Destiny or The Coronation Stone of the Kings of Tara (Ireland) was originally robbed from Ireland by one of the AWOL kings of Ireland.

It was taken across to Argyll (Scotland) by Scotland's first Irish King Fergus son of Erc in 1200 odd when many a ruling clan of Ireland would pop over to Scotland to sort things out there as the Irish had been populating Scotland for most of the last seven centuries from the 5th century, hence the familiar Gaelic language the Scots speak based on old Irish.

Scottish had the stone for over 6 centuries in England, it was captured by king Edward I and stored in Westminster Abbey and it was used for coronations because the Kings and Queens of England were also the Kings and Queens of Scotland . They gave the stone back to the Scottish in 96' as a symbolic gesture and there was a handover ceremony before it was taken to Edinburgh Castle.

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The Scots robbed whiskey off the Irish too.

The word whisky (or whiskey) is an anglicisation of the Gaelic word uisce/uisge meaning water.

The first confirmed written record of whisky comes from 1405 in Ireland. In the Irish Annals of Clonmacnoise in 1405, the first written record of whisky attributes the death of a chieftain to "taking a surfeit of aqua vitae" at Christmas.

In Scotland, the first evidence of whisky production comes from an entry in the Exchequer Rolls for 1494 where malt is sent "To Friar John Cor, by order of the king, to make aquavitae", enough to make about 500 bottles.

With a licence to distil Irish whiskey from 1608, the Old Bushmills Distillery in Northern Ireland is the oldest licenced whiskey distillery in the world.

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Quote from: sana8410 on September 23, 2014, 01:09:49 PM

Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

The stone of scone known as The Stone of Destiny or The Coronation Stone of the Kings of Tara (Ireland) was originally robbed from Ireland by one of the AWOL kings of Ireland.

It was taken across to Argyll (Scotland) by Scotland's first Irish King Fergus son of Erc in 1200 odd when many a ruling clan of Ireland would pop over to Scotland to sort things out there as the Irish had been populating Scotland for most of the last seven centuries from the 5th century, hence the familiar Gaelic language the Scots speak based on old Irish.

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Quote from: Rigon on September 19, 2014, 10:01:45 AM

With Scotland re-affirming their wedding vows to their UK masters, ole' Cameron will be lifting a few kilts from the back and slipping his rod firm up the Scots for good measure.

With Catalonians and the Basques getting restless in Spain, also the wealthy Bavarians and Venetians in Germany and Italy wanting a bit of independent action, what would the likeliest states in the US be on a list of 1 to 10 for those wanting to separate from their federal US masters ?

Scotland have their own laws, their own Parliament, we even let them keep the stone of scone so it was all nonsense anyway because all they are dependant on is money from the treasury via the Barnett formula which is base on current population figures.

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Good luck to Scotland going forward. Hopefully this will be an eye opener to Great Britain to address the issues that led 45% of voters to want independence. Nice to see clean democracy at work.

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Was it paper ballots, hand counted? Or was it corrupt, electronic voting machines?

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/29279384

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A survey, commissioned by Conservative peer Lord Ashcroft, said 71% of 16 to 17-year-olds voted for Scotland to be independent and 29% voted against.

That is a gigantic margin. In future, there is no doubt that Scotland will secede from England, unless the British find some way to neutralize this huge gap.

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