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Update: Friday, May 15 2015

Shadow Update v1.3.2.4

-Fixed the refetching of blocks from multiple peers (faster sync)
-Fixed the deadlocks in the Encrypted Messaging code

Shadow v1.3.2.4

Moving on...!

I'm back on ShadowGo (Android) while TV and st3bas are back on the HD wallet development. We're moving forward quickly and look forward to hearing about your first experiences.

Thank you for your continued support!

Have a great weekend.

The Shadow Team
Rynomster (lead developer)
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I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.

You can just create a bunch of wallets, put the 10K coins in each wallet, then use the dumpprivkey function in the console to get the private keys of each and record it. Then format and/or destroy your hard drive.
well i hope someone in the future produces physical shadow coins because i am very interested in buying but  thanks for the tips.
im in the process of physical shadow coins
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I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.

You can just create a bunch of wallets, put the 10K coins in each wallet, then use the dumpprivkey function in the console to get the private keys of each and record it. Then format and/or destroy your hard drive.
well i hope someone in the future produces physical shadow coins because i am very interested in buying but  thanks for the tips.
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Faucet is up and running ... http://faucet.shadowchain.info/
You can click on the donate button in the header to get the address to fund the faucet.
Thanks for setting it up *thumbs up*
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For those that don't know what BIPs are, check out this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals

They're code submitted to be integrated into the Bitcoin core. A few clicks on that page will take you to the summary of each one. I believe the SDC devs are planning to integrate 32, 39, and 44 to bring us hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallets.

What is an HD wallet? You can read more here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki http://weilu.github.io/blog/2014/07/11/the-perks-of-being-an-hd-wallet/

Counterwallet is one example of an HD wallet but I know there are more.

I think an Armory wallet works that way.

Not a fan of it myself. I prefer to manage individual keys paired with addresses.

Interesting .. So you would rather have to keep private keys or wallet files and worry about backing those up v.s. a secure mnemonic seed/words?

Obviously there are a load of other benefits such as integration into hardware wallets etc.

The thing about mnemonics for me is that if I didn't create it it might as well be random. So I just keep all keys for all coins in a file that I've encrypted. Thinking about keeping a second copy in a bank vault too.

But that is the whole idea right, for it to be random.
I mean there is nothing stopping you from choosing the words yourself but the key here is to get them random.
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Faucet is up and running ... http://faucet.shadowchain.info/
You can click on the donate button in the header to get the address to fund the faucet.
hero member
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I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.

You can just create a bunch of wallets, put the 10K coins in each wallet, then use the dumpprivkey function in the console to get the private keys of each and record it. Then format and/or destroy your hard drive.
legendary
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Pecvniate obedivnt omnia.
I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.

Why not just use a paper wallet?
because i want it stored on something physical like silver that could also raise in price the fact if SDC is huge in the future and silver will  go up no doubt because it has been manipulated for so long i remember when BTC hit 1k each physical holding 1 BTC were going for ridicules amounts 6-12k on ebay depending on the material used to people investing in them as collectors items for the future i want to have coins and bullion in all different nominations for this reason and for security reasons a silver coin for instance may survive a house fire where a paper wallet probably wont.
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For those that don't know what BIPs are, check out this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals

They're code submitted to be integrated into the Bitcoin core. A few clicks on that page will take you to the summary of each one. I believe the SDC devs are planning to integrate 32, 39, and 44 to bring us hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallets.

What is an HD wallet? You can read more here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki http://weilu.github.io/blog/2014/07/11/the-perks-of-being-an-hd-wallet/

Counterwallet is one example of an HD wallet but I know there are more.

I think an Armory wallet works that way.

Not a fan of it myself. I prefer to manage individual keys paired with addresses.

Interesting .. So you would rather have to keep private keys or wallet files and worry about backing those up v.s. a secure mnemonic seed/words?

Obviously there are a load of other benefits such as integration into hardware wallets etc.

The thing about mnemonics for me is that if I didn't create it it might as well be random. So I just keep all keys for all coins in a file that I've encrypted. Thinking about keeping a second copy in a bank vault too.
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I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.

Why not just use a paper wallet?
legendary
Activity: 1190
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Pecvniate obedivnt omnia.
I have a question, when i was first looking into crypto in the early days there were heaps of the physical bitcoins going around, wish i had of bought em up they were so cheap haha anyways i never really understood how they worked, are they like a paper wallet but just engraved in a valuable object? is this how the HD master key work? i want my coins off the grid, until needed, i do not need the stake i want to remove them completely from my computers and take no risks, basically what i want is physical SDC coins or bullion each holding around 10k, how do i even start to do this? because in the near future i think it may be dangerous to hold large amounts on our computers, we will be a definite target too government agency's, i want to get active now and prevent tears latter.
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I'm used to CryptoNote coins and understand quite well how they function. I've tried using Shadow to compare, but the knowledge base in the internet is quite scattered. Could you answer my questions or point me to the place where I can get more info?

1. Are all transactions anonymous by default in Shadow? Is there anonymity level setting in the wallet?
2. Are there any faucets?

Thank you.

Shadow is quite different in the way CN functions.

1. To make an anonymous transaction, you use tokens called "SDT" .. you can convert your SDC to SDT and once you have these you can further send SDT to SDT or SDT back to SDC. <--- anything that involves a SDT is a anonymous transaction. You can set the anonymity level you want in the wallet during the transaction.

Please take a look here for an explanation : http://shadowcash.info/display/shadow/Transact+Anonymously

2. There used to be, but it seems they are dry or offline now. I will see if we can fire one up.


So basically when i withdraw sdc from exchanges it's not anonymous at all because only sdc are used not tokens ?

the point in this is to switch more and more to sdt as time passes i guess ? But exchanges will always use sdc right ?

Yes, exchanges use only SDC (yet).

With every SDT transaction (to and from it), more anonymous outputs are created - you can check that under Chain Data in your Wallet. So yes, you're right. The point is also not to convert all SDT received directly to SDC in the same amount, as that transaction could be "matched" (not for sure, but it's a slight link). So it's good to gradually convert SDC to SDT (even if you don't necessarily need SDTs), to create some more chaos. And when receiving SDT, which you want to convert back to SDC, it's good to do that in smaller chunks as time passes.. or, ideally, leave it in SDT for future use.

Btw it's worth noting that your SDT aren't staking. You can stake only SDC.

Ill throw some SDC at the faucet if it gets up & running soon, just shoot me a DM
hero member
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For those that don't know what BIPs are, check out this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals

They're code submitted to be integrated into the Bitcoin core. A few clicks on that page will take you to the summary of each one. I believe the SDC devs are planning to integrate 32, 39, and 44 to bring us hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallets.

What is an HD wallet? You can read more here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki http://weilu.github.io/blog/2014/07/11/the-perks-of-being-an-hd-wallet/

Counterwallet is one example of an HD wallet but I know there are more.

I think an Armory wallet works that way.

Not a fan of it myself. I prefer to manage individual keys paired with addresses.

Interesting .. So you would rather have to keep private keys or wallet files and worry about backing those up v.s. a secure mnemonic seed/words?

Obviously there are a load of other benefits such as integration into hardware wallets etc.

Has anyone created a smartphone HD wallet app yet?
hero member
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For those that don't know what BIPs are, check out this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals

They're code submitted to be integrated into the Bitcoin core. A few clicks on that page will take you to the summary of each one. I believe the SDC devs are planning to integrate 32, 39, and 44 to bring us hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallets.

What is an HD wallet? You can read more here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki http://weilu.github.io/blog/2014/07/11/the-perks-of-being-an-hd-wallet/

Counterwallet is one example of an HD wallet but I know there are more.

I think an Armory wallet works that way.

Not a fan of it myself. I prefer to manage individual keys paired with addresses.

Interesting .. So you would rather have to keep private keys or wallet files and worry about backing those up v.s. a secure mnemonic seed/words?

Obviously there are a load of other benefits such as integration into hardware wallets etc.
sr. member
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I'm used to CryptoNote coins and understand quite well how they function. I've tried using Shadow to compare, but the knowledge base in the internet is quite scattered. Could you answer my questions or point me to the place where I can get more info?

1. Are all transactions anonymous by default in Shadow? Is there anonymity level setting in the wallet?
2. Are there any faucets?

Thank you.

Shadow is quite different in the way CN functions.

1. To make an anonymous transaction, you use tokens called "SDT" .. you can convert your SDC to SDT and once you have these you can further send SDT to SDT or SDT back to SDC. <--- anything that involves a SDT is a anonymous transaction. You can set the anonymity level you want in the wallet during the transaction.

Please take a look here for an explanation : http://shadowcash.info/display/shadow/Transact+Anonymously

2. There used to be, but it seems they are dry or offline now. I will see if we can fire one up.


So basically when i withdraw sdc from exchanges it's not anonymous at all because only sdc are used not tokens ?

the point in this is to switch more and more to sdt as time passes i guess ? But exchanges will always use sdc right ?

Yes, exchanges use only SDC (yet).

With every SDT transaction (to and from it), more anonymous outputs are created - you can check that under Chain Data in your Wallet. So yes, you're right. The point is also not to convert all SDT received directly to SDC in the same amount, as that transaction could be "matched" (not for sure, but it's a slight link). So it's good to gradually convert SDC to SDT (even if you don't necessarily need SDTs), to create some more chaos. And when receiving SDT, which you want to convert back to SDC, it's good to do that in smaller chunks as time passes.. or, ideally, leave it in SDT for future use.

Btw it's worth noting that your SDT aren't staking. You can stake only SDC.
hero member
Activity: 503
Merit: 500
For those that don't know what BIPs are, check out this link: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Bitcoin_Improvement_Proposals

They're code submitted to be integrated into the Bitcoin core. A few clicks on that page will take you to the summary of each one. I believe the SDC devs are planning to integrate 32, 39, and 44 to bring us hierarchical deterministic (HD) wallets.

What is an HD wallet? You can read more here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0032.mediawiki http://weilu.github.io/blog/2014/07/11/the-perks-of-being-an-hd-wallet/

Counterwallet is one example of an HD wallet but I know there are more.

I think an Armory wallet works that way.

Not a fan of it myself. I prefer to manage individual keys paired with addresses.
hero member
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Shadowcash will be the new era of our time the time is now ! invest or get left like the rest

ok mr hype
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Moon
Shadowcash will be the new era of our time the time is now ! invest or get left like the rest
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Pecvniate obedivnt omnia.

Those are the blackphone guys right? I read somewhere that it's one of the most expensive phones out there because all of the software is subscription based. That and the unlocked phone is priced very high.
I'm not sure i only just found this but im going to look into it more i think the Dev team might be able to use some of the concepts and ideas as future inspiration for the shadow project possibly also, so thought i would share it.
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Those are the blackphone guys right? I read somewhere that it's one of the most expensive phones out there because all of the software is subscription based. That and the unlocked phone is priced very high.
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