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Deleting posts left, right and centre!
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If it smells all the way like a scam, then it must be a scam, but we'll see after the ico.
In the meanwhile, I'm just glad that I found this project that does what it promises.
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StealthCash has P&D similar to CRAVE WRITTEN ALL OVER IT. Wouldnt be surprised if it was the same developer.

LOL ~1.2 million coins....The roadmap has June spelled as "Jun". It says more Infos coming soon. Sounds like a chinese developer that used google translate. *cough* crave *cough*. Weird how that works. This is good. Real real good.

I keep finding stupid mess ups the more and more I read the OP. 1 word. Scam.

If you place any BTC / hashpower into StealthCash i will forever disregard anything you have to say.
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If they note the copyright in the source code and/or whitepaper, it's not a rip off.

This is the purpose of open source software. They can take the code and do what they want to it as long as they give the copyright to the correct sources on the code that they copied.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, so please don't attack them for that. Your opinion on if it may be a potential scam is your opinion. I am wary of the coin myself due to the recent ICO and dynamic PoS scams.

But don't attack them for using open source code.

Copying the source code and giving credit in the codebase is one thing. They are using the same copywrite as SDC in their ANN to explain the technology that SDC pioneered while rebranding it "Stealthcash" instead of "Powered By" Shadowcash or ShadowSend. Any linux distribution can be used as a primary example of how to properly use open source code and cite references. For example, Ubuntu references Linux same like any distribution that uses it on their "About Ubuntu" section. They don't claim credit for creating linux only attempting to improve upon it in their own way. The "about" section on any open source project's website is a similar equivalent of an ANN on Bitcointalk.

The SDC team as a whole wrote the descriptions to promote and describe this project in the ANN thread. Whenever someone uses someone else's text they should cite a reference otherwise it's plagiarism.

Any competent developer would know know to cite references. It's common sense.. something people learn in primary school. I'm labeling it as a scam because if the developer is promising development when he hasn't even learned how to cite references then his motives are clear. Plagiarism is a form of intellectual theft.. scamming the audience into believing they wrote the work.

Didn't realize that their ANN is almost a complete copy + paste. You are right about the plagiarism.

Also claiming that litewallets are their development.
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If they note the copyright in the source code and/or whitepaper, it's not a rip off.

This is the purpose of open source software. They can take the code and do what they want to it as long as they give the copyright to the correct sources on the code that they copied.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, so please don't attack them for that. Your opinion on if it may be a potential scam is your opinion. I am wary of the coin myself due to the recent ICO and dynamic PoS scams.

But don't attack them for using open source code.

Copying the source code and giving credit in the codebase is one thing. They are using the same copywrite as SDC in their ANN to explain the technology that SDC pioneered while rebranding it "Stealthcash" instead of "Powered By" Shadowcash or ShadowSend. Any linux distribution can be used as a primary example of how to properly use open source code and cite references. For example, Ubuntu references Linux same like any distribution that uses it on their "About Ubuntu" section. They don't claim credit for creating linux only attempting to improve upon it in their own way. The "about" section on any open source project's website is a similar equivalent of an ANN on Bitcointalk.

The SDC team as a whole wrote the descriptions to promote and describe this project in the ANN thread. Whenever someone uses someone else's text they should cite a reference otherwise it's plagiarism.

Any competent developer would know know to cite references. It's common sense.. something people learn in primary school. I'm labeling it as a scam because if the developer is promising development when he hasn't even learned how to cite references then his motives are clear. Plagiarism is a form of intellectual theft.. scamming the audience into believing they wrote the work.
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Beware of shitcoins! Meet "StealthCash" the latest SDC clone. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059653.20

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, StealthCash is the greatest form of plagiarism. He ripped off everything from the project without citing any sources for the work. You've been warned fellow investors. An informed investor is the greatest defense against regulations.

I called out the developer in a lengthy post but it was deleted. Here is my reply to the deleted post (which was also deleted).

Typo Fixed.


Credits of STX sources will be present in our whitepaper and source code.

Credit for your work should be in the ANN. Any legitimate developer would reference the authoring developers. SDC authored this technology and named it "ShadowSend" yet I don't see any reference to it in your ANN. There are heaps of Darkcoin shitcoins running around yet the majority of them use the term "Masternodes" because that is term established by Darkcoin/Dash. Rebranding someones innovation is plagiarism. Reference Shadowcash as the author for this if not don't use the same text.

How can anyone trust this project when you aren't even capable of referencing the authoring developers? You should change the name of your project to "StealCash" because that's your end goal.


this is just a blatant copy of Stealthcoin XST, a long-running legitimate coin.

This isn't a clone of Stealthcoin. The only thing they share is the former portion of the name.

what an amazing project this is

look at 50k sell wall, they will cry harder and harder  Cheesy

Agreed!



If they note the copyright in the source code and/or whitepaper, it's not a rip off.

This is the purpose of open source software. They can take the code and do what they want to it as long as they give the copyright to the correct sources on the code that they copied.

There is nothing wrong with what they are doing, so please don't attack them for that. Your opinion on if it may be a potential scam is your opinion. I am wary of the coin myself due to the recent ICO and dynamic PoS scams.

But don't attack them for using open source code.
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Beware of shitcoins! Meet "StealthCash" the latest SDC clone. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1059653.20

Imitation is the greatest form of flattery, StealthCash is the greatest form of plagiarism. He ripped off everything from the project without citing any sources for the work. You've been warned fellow investors. An informed investor is the greatest defense against regulations.

I called out the developer in a lengthy post but it was deleted. Here is my reply to the deleted post (which was also deleted).

Typo Fixed.


Credits of STX sources will be present in our whitepaper and source code.

Credit for your work should be in the ANN. Any legitimate developer would reference the authoring developers. SDC authored this technology and named it "ShadowSend" yet I don't see any reference to it in your ANN. There are heaps of Darkcoin shitcoins running around yet the majority of them use the term "Masternodes" because that is term established by Darkcoin/Dash. Rebranding someones innovation is plagiarism. Reference Shadowcash as the author for this if not don't use the same text.

How can anyone trust this project when you aren't even capable of referencing the authoring developers? You should change the name of your project to "StealCash" because that's your end goal.


this is just a blatant copy of Stealthcoin XST, a long-running legitimate coin.

This isn't a clone of Stealthcoin. The only thing they share is the former portion of the name.

what an amazing project this is

look at 50k sell wall, they will cry harder and harder  Cheesy

Agreed!

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come on community

give a support to 50k buy Wall, sell wall has gone

dude go away
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come on community

give a support to 50k buy Wall, sell wall has gone
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The biggest complainers tend to be the people expecting a reward for not doing anything. I'd love to know what Skip60 has done for the project that entitles him to constantly spew his bullshit into this thread. All I see are lies about his holdings and critique of others efforts. My analysis is that he dumped at 18k and is trying his hardest to get the price back down there so he can buy back in. He's a trojan horse packaged as a concerned investor. Thankfully there is an ignore button for those who know where to find it.

In my view, the influx of anonymous shitcoins into the altcoin market promising decentralized marketplaces right after the release of the SDC motherboard article is/was a defense mechanism by scam developers and pump groups. They pumped out enough shitcoins to distract potential investors from the real innovator. None of them will deliver on their promises except SDC and none of them will make headline news. After the dust settles and they get delisted from exchanges SDC will still be here and those pumped and dumped coins will retain their headless cheerleader communities. The SDC development team is taking its time and effort to craft a real solution and each release is a precursor to the project's next major milestone. From what I can tell the bulk of developmental work is almost done and we could expect the alpha/beta milestone very soon.

Remember SDC was featured on Vice.com, one of the top news publications in the world. This opens the door for future coverage by large mainstream media publications and that means more exposure for the project, in turn resulting in larger growth. Something 99% of the projects listed here can't look forward to. An artificial pump wont get your project in the mainstream limelight (coindesk and cointelegraph are not mainstream). However, real development and delivery will. At the time of this writing the coin is worth around 14 cents a coin. I believe in the very near future we will all look back and laugh at these haters and their shitty speculations. The project is exposed to the world right now and despite what the charts read the coin is on the precipice of a meteoric rise to one of the top market caps. The only thing holding it back right now is the failures of other projects before it that promised a similar platform. Where they failed SDC will succeed with delivery. For those crypto advocates that can read between the lines there is no better coin to put your BTC than SDC.

Let's start acting like a mature community. Do what you can to assist others in learning about the SDC ecosystem.. be it your offline friends or someone new to the space. The community will only grow once it realizes it's position on the world scale. New investors coming here don't want to see bickering they want to see unity and brotherhood amongst like-minded people. If you'd like your investment to grow do your part and enjoy the ride! How about we reserve this thread for actual discussions about the project instead of piss poor speculations from subpar traders.

Almost burst into applause while reading this, what a superb post!
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what a silent topic it is

look at 50k sell wall, that Wall will get thicker and thicker


Agreed!

every other day, i love you more and more
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what an amazing project this is

look at 50k sell wall, they will cry harder and harder  Cheesy

Agreed!
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what a silent topic it is

look at 50k sell wall, that Wall will get thicker and thicker
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^LOL! Cheesy Grin

Barren Wuffet? I'm telling you - that's a great name inversion! Reminds me of Com Truise  Cool
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The biggest complainers tend to be the people expecting a reward for not doing anything. I'd love to know what Skip60 has done for the project that entitles him to constantly spew his bullshit into this thread. All I see are lies about his holdings and critique of others efforts. My analysis is that he dumped at 18k and is trying his hardest to get the price back down there so he can buy back in. He's a trojan horse packaged as a concerned investor. Thankfully there is an ignore button for those who know where to find it.

In my view, the influx of anonymous shitcoins into the altcoin market promising decentralized marketplaces right after the release of the SDC motherboard article is/was a defense mechanism by scam developers and pump groups. They pumped out enough shitcoins to distract potential investors from the real innovator. None of them will deliver on their promises except SDC and none of them will make headline news. After the dust settles and they get delisted from exchanges SDC will still be here and those pumped and dumped coins will retain their headless cheerleader communities. The SDC development team is taking its time and effort to craft a real solution and each release is a precursor to the project's next major milestone. From what I can tell the bulk of developmental work is almost done and we could expect the alpha/beta milestone very soon.

Remember SDC was featured on Vice.com, one of the top news publications in the world. This opens the door for future coverage by large mainstream media publications and that means more exposure for the project, in turn resulting in larger growth. Something 99% of the projects listed here can't look forward to. An artificial pump wont get your project in the mainstream limelight (coindesk and cointelegraph are not mainstream). However, real development and delivery will. At the time of this writing the coin is worth around 14 cents a coin. I believe in the very near future we will all look back and laugh at these haters and their shitty speculations. The project is exposed to the world right now and despite what the charts read the coin is on the precipice of a meteoric rise to one of the top market caps. The only thing holding it back right now is the failures of other projects before it that promised a similar platform. Where they failed SDC will succeed with delivery. For those crypto advocates that can read between the lines there is no better coin to put your BTC than SDC.

Let's start acting like a mature community. Do what you can to assist others in learning about the SDC ecosystem.. be it your offline friends or someone new to the space. The community will only grow once it realizes it's position on the world scale. New investors coming here don't want to see bickering they want to see unity and brotherhood amongst like-minded people. If you'd like your investment to grow do your part and enjoy the ride! How about we reserve this thread for actual discussions about the project instead of piss poor speculations from subpar traders.

Thank you  Cool
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Whats the view on getting a professional pen test?

Would like to hear any pros / cons.

The question is not about how to fund one or when, if it was considered worthwhile.
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The biggest complainers tend to be the people expecting a reward for not doing anything. I'd love to know what Skip60 has done for the project that entitles him to constantly spew his bullshit into this thread. All I see are lies about his holdings and critique of others efforts. My analysis is that he dumped at 18k and is trying his hardest to get the price back down there so he can buy back in. He's a trojan horse packaged as a concerned investor. Thankfully there is an ignore button for those who know where to find it.

In my view, the influx of anonymous shitcoins into the altcoin market promising decentralized marketplaces right after the release of the SDC motherboard article is/was a defense mechanism by scam developers and pump groups. They pumped out enough shitcoins to distract potential investors from the real innovator. None of them will deliver on their promises except SDC and none of them will make headline news. After the dust settles and they get delisted from exchanges SDC will still be here and those pumped and dumped coins will retain their headless cheerleader communities. The SDC development team is taking its time and effort to craft a real solution and each release is a precursor to the project's next major milestone. From what I can tell the bulk of developmental work is almost done and we could expect the alpha/beta milestone very soon.

Remember SDC was featured on Vice.com, one of the top news publications in the world. This opens the door for future coverage by large mainstream media publications and that means more exposure for the project, in turn resulting in larger growth. Something 99% of the projects listed here can't look forward to. An artificial pump wont get your project in the mainstream limelight (coindesk and cointelegraph are not mainstream). However, real development and delivery will. At the time of this writing the coin is worth around 14 cents a coin. I believe in the very near future we will all look back and laugh at these haters and their shitty speculations. The project is exposed to the world right now and despite what the charts read the coin is on the precipice of a meteoric rise to one of the top market caps. The only thing holding it back right now is the failures of other projects before it that promised a similar platform. Where they failed SDC will succeed with delivery. For those crypto advocates that can read between the lines there is no better coin to put your BTC than SDC.

Let's start acting like a mature community. Do what you can to assist others in learning about the SDC ecosystem.. be it your offline friends or someone new to the space. The community will only grow once it realizes it's position on the world scale. New investors coming here don't want to see bickering they want to see unity and brotherhood amongst like-minded people. If you'd like your investment to grow do your part and enjoy the ride! How about we reserve this thread for actual discussions about the project instead of piss poor speculations from subpar traders.

+1, beautiful. I feel the same, but I couldn't put it so nicely together.

Stop hating and let's all collaborate together. For those concerned about price (not pointing at anyone again..), there's a nice thread over at Slack. Let's keep this clean, friendly and informative.

+1

Hate the shitcoins.

Vis-a-vis price:
Some are more cashless than others (I guess I fall in that category Wink ). Certainly SDC has gained dramatic value in the last few months, lets say 300% (from ~20k to ~60k). LOL, by NASDAQ standards this is insane growth. However the gains in SDC have been lost from a depressing drop in BTC value.

The future looks good. SDC is getting stronger and with any luck BTC just might too (preice-wise)

BUt this has been a tricky period.

Sure. Now there is only one coin with real equivalent fiat value. BTC price is dropping as the deficiencies of the coin become manifest: the lack of privacy, the block size limit, the expanding blockchain. SDC addresses one of those. What we're learning is that there may never be "one coin to rule them all" just for technical reasons, and that may be just fine.

It is very interesting being in such uncharted economic territory. BTC was unlike anything that had previously existed. A fully anonymous, decentralized, and unregulated marketplace has also never existed, but we're about to have one. Our future could be as bright as it was for a young man in 1980 who just got his Computer Science degree. Or it could come crashing down, but I'm cautiously optimistic.
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