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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:50:49 PM

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:39:12 PM

Granted, not all my questions were answered at the time and they were supposed to be putting together more info, but still, I got some answers to what I asked at the time.

Post it here. If it isn't hot air, I'll go away.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8971700

I also read a lot of different things about ZK, the Zerocoin/Zerocash stuff, Darkwallet etc since they all appeared to me to be along the same lines.

It's a really interesting field. I believe we're in a paradigm shift right now from non-zk to zk based coins. Have you looked into Pinocchio coin?

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:39:12 PM

Granted, not all my questions were answered at the time and they were supposed to be putting together more info, but still, I got some answers to what I asked at the time.

Post it here. If it isn't hot air, I'll go away.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8971700

I also read a lot of different things about ZK, the Zerocoin/Zerocash stuff, Darkwallet etc since they all appeared to me to be along the same lines.

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Simple math and logic:
Cloak cap => 0.00 $
IF ShadowDevs = CloakDevs THEN
Shadow cap => X.XX $

How much is 'X' ?

shadowdevs = cinnicoindev = trash = scammers

Well.. Even with those new conditions the tasks are equal Grin

I must say this is entertaining, thanks for the laughs. I love all the kids who realized their XST investment was based of vapor and not the product of actual development.

Your anger makes you stronger, it gives you focus.

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:39:12 PM

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I you are an impartial innocent bystander, Viper1, ask right here on this shitty thread how the dev is going to use zk-snarks. Fucking ask the question and see what you get.

I did it a long time ago Viper1 and got nothing but deleted posts.

If I would have gotten any answer at all, I'd probably be bouncing trolls right now. But shadow is shitware viper. That's the truth.

I did ask a number of pages back when I was first looked into the coin. Funny thing about that. You were complaining about not getting answers from them, either here or in the XST thread, can't remember which thread now, and someone posted in response to you all the stuff I had asked and the answers I received. lol

Granted, not all my questions were answered at the time and they were supposed to be putting together more info, but still, I got some answers to what I asked at the time.

The devs are in a testing cycle so the spec changes based on results. The reason why you didn't get more info is because the spec is changing after each test cycle so the information you initially would of received would of been inaccurate.

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:15:40 PM

I you are an impartial innocent bystander, Viper1, ask right here on this shitty thread how the dev is going to use zk-snarks. Fucking ask the question and see what you get.

I did it a long time ago Viper1 and got nothing but deleted posts.

If I would have gotten any answer at all, I'd probably be bouncing trolls right now. But shadow is shitware viper. That's the truth.

I did ask a number of pages back when I was first looked into the coin. Funny thing about that. You were complaining about not getting answers from them, either here or in the XST thread, can't remember which thread now, and someone posted in response to you all the stuff I had asked and the answers I received. lol

Granted, not all my questions were answered at the time and they were supposed to be putting together more info, but still, I got some answers to what I asked at the time.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 08:12:12 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:10:00 PM

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More worthless crap from you. You never have anything worthwhile to say. And let's just point out that I sat in that XST thread "discussing things" with that longandshort guys about his so called "proof" until he finally came out and said where he was getting his info. You in the meantime did and do absolutely nothing. In other words. I did more to actually "defend" chandran sigs than you have ever done and I don't even like XST or that community. So why don't you just go hide back under the rock you crawled out from under.

+1

You were the only person I saw come into the channel and ask them legitimate questions about XST. I was offline for that bit, but I have respect that you fact checked the information provided by longandshort instead of resorting to them mindless trolling like the guys invading this thread.

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You just make it that much easier to get you banned. There's plenty of people reporting you right now. You're actually doing the crypto community a favor by spamming this thread with more posts, the more you post the more reports we get for you. The profanity really helps thanks for that.

Shadow is the farthest thing from vapor I've seen in this section of bitcointalk. It's delivered on every one of it's promises. There isn't a spec for SS2 yet because the devs are finalizing and reviewing it before posting. Unlike vapor it's already in the testing cycle. The spec changes as a result from testing cycles.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 08:05:12 PM

Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 07:56:06 PM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 07:48:33 PM

The XST whitepaper was reviewed by some of the bitcoin core devs and they came to the conclusion that it was unfeasible.

The least you can do is be truthful. They didn't say it wasn't feasible and in fact one of them said they didn't have enough information about all potential solutions to actually know or not.

This whole thing is just pathetic. Both sides just spewing off bullshit to suit their own purposes. Grow a fucking spine people and show some ethics in what the hell you say. The number of children in this shit pretending to be adults just pushes me over the edge at times.

Viper1 you are correct, this whole thing is pathetic. It has nothing to do with SDC and everything to do with XST. Longandshort started this investigation by inquiring about the feasibility, not me. In fact, you should take your queries back up with Greg he's the one of the guys who gave his expert opinion on it, not me. I've just been swatting these trolls's baseless scam accusations in this thread.

Answer from Greg Maxwell:
[01:38am] bjjb: If this is truly a work of his passion, maybe he will find a way to make it work. I do appreciate the skeptic professional opinions tonight - they are rare in the trade scene.
[01:40am] nessence joined the chat room.
[01:40am] gmaxwell: You can't really honest effort yourself through something that is just not applicable, and probably not through not knowing what you're doing. ... and you speak of integrity, but launching some speculative asset when you've not done the work? I don't think that is something that speaks of integrity.

Bottom Line:
Devs shouldn't post specs as promises when they haven't done their homework.

You seem to forget I was in that chat. I know exactly what he said and didn't say. I was also in a Monero chat room with the guys that would actually have more information than the bitcoin guys.

I'm certainly not "defending" the Stealthsend stuff as it's pretty clear at this point that even if it gets implemented it has issues and will be questionable as to whether or not it's cryptographically sound. But I just want to see some truths being told and not bullshit.

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have you people finish now? how long will you keep going posting crap?

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 08:10:00 PM

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You are full of shit viper. The shadow cocksuckers spammed the XST thread relentlessly.

The shadow dev is a little bitch who deletes posts.

More worthless crap from you. You never have anything worthwhile to say. And let's just point out that I sat in that XST thread "discussing things" with that longandshort guys about his so called "proof" until he finally came out and said where he was getting his info. You in the meantime did and do absolutely nothing. In other words. I did more to actually "defend" chandran sigs than you have ever done and I don't even like XST or that community. So why don't you just go hide back under the rock you crawled out from under.

+1

You were the only person I saw come into the channel and ask them legitimate questions about XST. I was offline for that bit, but I have respect that you fact checked the information provided by longandshort instead of resorting to them mindless trolling like the guys invading this thread.

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You are full of shit viper. The shadow cocksuckers spammed the XST thread relentlessly.

The shadow dev is a little bitch who deletes posts.

More worthless crap from you. You never have anything worthwhile to say. And let's just point out that I sat in that XST thread "discussing things" with that longandshort guys about his so called "proof" until he finally came out and said where he was getting his info. You in the meantime did and do absolutely nothing. In other words. I did more to actually "defend" chandran sigs than you have ever done and I don't even like XST or that community. So why don't you just go hide back under the rock you crawled out from under.

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Quote from: Viper1 on October 10, 2014, 07:56:06 PM

Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 07:48:33 PM

The XST whitepaper was reviewed by some of the bitcoin core devs and they came to the conclusion that it was unfeasible.

The least you can do is be truthful. They didn't say it wasn't feasible and in fact one of them said they didn't have enough information about all potential solutions to actually know or not.

This whole thing is just pathetic. Both sides just spewing off bullshit to suit their own purposes. Grow a fucking spine people and show some ethics in what the hell you say. The number of children in this shit pretending to be adults just pushes me over the edge at times.

Viper1 you are correct, this whole thing is pathetic. It has nothing to do with SDC and everything to do with XST. Longandshort started this investigation by inquiring about the feasibility, not me. In fact, you should take your queries back up with Greg he's the one of the guys who gave his expert opinion on it, not me. I've just been swatting these trolls's baseless scam accusations in this thread.

Answer from Greg Maxwell:
[01:38am] bjjb: If this is truly a work of his passion, maybe he will find a way to make it work. I do appreciate the skeptic professional opinions tonight - they are rare in the trade scene.
[01:40am] nessence joined the chat room.
[01:40am] gmaxwell: You can't really honest effort yourself through something that is just not applicable, and probably not through not knowing what you're doing. ... and you speak of integrity, but launching some speculative asset when you've not done the work? I don't think that is something that speaks of integrity.

Bottom Line:
Devs shouldn't post specs as promises when they haven't done their homework.

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Awesome! You found a perfect example of a dev (concealcoin) scamming investors. Thanks for digging that up.

That dev did the same thing that XST did, in a shorter time span (a few days). Concealcoin had hyped up whitepaper and a ridiculously high hashrate from which I mined and traded on before exiting. It was added to every major exchange right off the bat. The trading was insane on it, as was the volume. Like all coins of its kind, it was a gamble I trade on it and luckily made money.

All in all it was a learning experience that taught everyone involed a lesson. No matter how good the volume is, how many exchanges add the coin and how big the hasrate is during mining - don't put faith in vapor.

I am an idiot

Nice attempt to take my words and twist them around. You think that because you found a post for a coin which topped all the exchanges and pools it was on for the 3 days it was in existence somehow translate me trading and mining the coin into hypocrisy?

The lesson learned here: No matter how good the coin is doing and how great the presentation is by the developer at the time - you need to fact check otherwise you will be left getting scammed. I mined that coin and because I have my own rigs it didn't cost me anything.

Basically you're trying to say because I mined a coin, traded it I deserve a pair of handcuffs? Man the only problem here is still your ignorance.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 07:48:33 PM

The XST whitepaper was reviewed by some of the bitcoin core devs and they came to the conclusion that it was unfeasible.

The least you can do is be truthful. They didn't say it wasn't feasible and in fact one of them said they didn't have enough information about all potential solutions to actually know or not.

This whole thing is just pathetic. Both sides just spewing off bullshit to suit their own purposes. Grow a fucking spine people and show some ethics in what the hell you say. The number of children in this shit pretending to be adults just pushes me over the edge at times.

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Quote from: Coolstoryteller on October 10, 2014, 07:48:33 PM

Quote from: koby on October 10, 2014, 07:44:36 PM

Quote from: 00Smurf on October 10, 2014, 07:34:23 PM

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Are you people saying that I've been scammed investing in this project?

by investing in xst or sdc?

So far sdc has delivered everything it has promised. The dev's is open and usually avail everyday on IRC #shadowcash on freenode.

I cannot comment on xst beyond what i've skimmed and read.

I'm in SDC I din't invest in xst, I thought SDC was good and now I'm seing all this people coming in this thread and going against SDC plus

the market cap of Shadowscash is going really down, just wondering.

Hey Koby,

Yep, everything is good on SDC's end. There's just a lot of upset XST investors look for a place to vent their remorse. it has nothing to do with SDC though. The XST whitepaper was reviewed by some of the bitcoin core devs and they came to the conclusion that it was unfeasible. As a result, they are looking to blame SDC because they didn't take the time to research their investment.

Ok so I'm asking to all this troll to buy some Ice cream stop crying and move on

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Quote from: koby on October 10, 2014, 07:44:36 PM

Quote from: 00Smurf on October 10, 2014, 07:34:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Are you people saying that I've been scammed investing in this project?

by investing in xst or sdc?

So far sdc has delivered everything it has promised. The dev's is open and usually avail everyday on IRC #shadowcash on freenode.

I cannot comment on xst beyond what i've skimmed and read.

I'm in SDC I din't invest in xst, I thought SDC was good and now I'm seing all this people coming in this thread and going against SDC plus

the market cap of Shadowscash is going really down, just wondering.

Hey Koby,

Yep, everything is good on SDC's end. There's just a lot of upset XST investors look for a place to vent their remorse. it has nothing to do with SDC though. The XST whitepaper was reviewed by some of the bitcoin core devs and they came to the conclusion that it was unfeasible. As a result, they are looking to blame SDC because they didn't take the time to research their investment.

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Quote from: 00Smurf on October 10, 2014, 07:34:23 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Are you people saying that I've been scammed investing in this project?

by investing in xst or sdc?

So far sdc has delivered everything it has promised. The dev's is open and usually avail everyday on IRC #shadowcash on freenode.

I cannot comment on xst beyond what i've skimmed and read.

I'm in SDC I din't invest in xst, I thought SDC was good and now I'm seing all this people coming in this thread and going against SDC plus

the market cap of Shadowscash is going really down, just wondering.

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Are you people saying that I've been scammed investing in this project?

No, we're speaking about XST. Their thread is shut down and they keep coming in here trying to smear the project.

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Are you people saying that I've been scammed investing in this project?

by investing in xst or sdc?

So far sdc has delivered everything it has promised. The dev's is open and usually avail everyday on IRC #shadowcash on freenode.

I cannot comment on xst beyond what i've skimmed and read.

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the older members from xst community know who is Hondo in the real world.
He is a scientist, a great researcher at a major university in USA.
Unlike most of those kids that usually "develop" coins

Why are you deleting my posts that say this?

If that were true, he would have probably had his whitepaper peer reviewed before dumping it on people with flashy colors and a catchy layout.

in the beginning xst not had any attractive layout or flashy colors similar to this thread here.
The community asked Hondo to put a graphic designer in devteam.
If the xst thread was not blocked, I would paste here my posts asking for it

My main point had nothing to do with colors and layout.

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