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legendary
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It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io

Ok I think now there is nothing to worry about duckdice, its not direct link to duckdice so dicecoin owner might have added ref link to duckdice to earn affiliate commision because duckdice is one of the dice site paying high affiliate commission.

I will keep playing on Duckdice.
full member
Activity: 331
Merit: 100
Totally Agree with @1982dre.

 Yesterday I have made another withdrawal of 12433 doge without a problem. I request not to accuse good sites. Lets us support good sites always.

Thank you

proof of my yesterday's withdrawal.
https://prnt.sc/frebs9



Duckdice.io is fine and pays out great.    I see your message where you notify the owner of duckdice to let them know of my accusations.  I have tried to get it touch with them in private multiple times prior to posting here and they have decided not to respond.   Play where you enjoying playing.  That is what I recommend.  Just keep in mind that you are playing at a site where the owner has intentionally tried their best to obscure their real location, real name and anything that makes them a sold, identifiable person.   Why would someone do that?
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 512
Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.  
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.

Tested (from usa):


It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io


if it is a referral link,then it makes no real sense
also just tested it from my country (not US) dicecoin loads as it is supposed to
so this redirect is most likely to cut the US customers,many sites are doing this to avoid legal actions or problems in the future
imho there is no connection between dicecoin and duckdice,looks like totally different concept and developpers were not the same

Well it makes sense that it's a referral link. Probably the owners of cryptogames still want to earn something if the users from the USA and uses duckdice for it.

Would there be also that much rumour when they used Primedice for it?? They just picked a new dicesite because the chance is bigger that the user doesn't got an account there.
legendary
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Merit: 1107
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Cryptogames.io and duckdice.io are so obviously built by the same group of people.  Even if they aren't the same exact person they are close enough in degrees that I have no doubt that duckdice knows who is leaving cryptogames.io up to steal the money from anyone that deposits there.
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it is not obvious to me,on the contrary I would love some information or proofs of that,because there are none at the moment
it was the first occurrence of cryptogames.io trying to "steal" the money,cause there are no open scam accusations against them
and why duckdice,why not yolodice or kingdice or any other dice site? just based on the same domain registrar? or the affiliate link redirect? I can set that on my site to ANY and it makes no sense if I'm the owner of duckdice and wanted to hide it,to make it sooo obvious
I think cryptogames did try to hijack cryptogames traffic,but there are two sides of the medal:you do get some traffic leftovers
BUT you will never be able to build your brand,you will always be "the site that sounds like crypto-games"
legendary
Activity: 3066
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If it is true that cryptogames.io, dicecoin.io and duckdice.io are managed the the same group of person then duckdice.io has just got their bad reputation. They should come here to clarify this thing wether or not they have connection with the first two sites.
legendary
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Merit: 1008
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Its obvious that cryptogames was planning to steal crypto-games.net customers and trying to hijack traffic as you can seen in rankings in google its a number 2 or top 2 to the real site.. that actually can affect the real website.. this is another way of marketing if you want to hijack the traffic since the brand name or domain name is little the same of the fake site..
So hope that google can remove that site in rankings or taking down that site in rankings because it can affect a lot the reputation of real site..

How can they hijack them? This is really annoying when they can be hijacked. And I think crypto-games.net sites is very unique, so how can they even possibly using almost exactly the same name as their domain? This does not add up, moreover people usually are really sensitive about their domain name so people will usually remember the right domain name in case this thing happens
full member
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Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.   
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry
You should be careful when performing a bitcoin transaction. The bitcoins system is very secure and cannot be broken to steel your bitcoins but outside the system there can be some people who try to cheat on you. So before depositing bitcoins to other websites you should be sure that website is authentic.


This site was legit until it wasn't.   The same could happen to any site you play at.   Primedice could decide to stop everything one day and keep it all.    I'm not out any cash overall.   I'm missing about $30 in LTC from the last two times I tried to deposit.  The only reason I kept playing there is because I felt like I could win easier there than at another site.  At this point I really want to know the scoop just because. 

...also I found a person/contact [email protected] and it looks like her name is Julia Brown and she lived in the UK.   Not sure how true that actually is though.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.  
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.

Tested (from usa):


It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io


if it is a referral link,then it makes no real sense
also just tested it from my country (not US) dicecoin loads as it is supposed to
so this redirect is most likely to cut the US customers,many sites are doing this to avoid legal actions or problems in the future
imho there is no connection between dicecoin and duckdice,looks like totally different concept and developpers were not the same

Cryptogames.io and duckdice.io are so obviously built by the same group of people.  Even if they aren't the same exact person they are close enough in degrees that I have no doubt that duckdice knows who is leaving cryptogames.io up to steal the money from anyone that deposits there.
Its obvious that cryptogames was planning to steal crypto-games.net customers and trying to hijack traffic as you can seen in rankings in google its a number 2 or top 2 to the real site.. that actually can affect the real website.. this is another way of marketing if you want to hijack the traffic since the brand name or domain name is little the same of the fake site..
So hope that google can remove that site in rankings or taking down that site in rankings because it can affect a lot the reputation of real site..
hero member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 541
Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.   
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry
You should be careful when performing a bitcoin transaction. The bitcoins system is very secure and cannot be broken to steel your bitcoins but outside the system there can be some people who try to cheat on you. So before depositing bitcoins to other websites you should be sure that website is authentic.
full member
Activity: 331
Merit: 100
Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.  
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.

Tested (from usa):


It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io


if it is a referral link,then it makes no real sense
also just tested it from my country (not US) dicecoin loads as it is supposed to
so this redirect is most likely to cut the US customers,many sites are doing this to avoid legal actions or problems in the future
imho there is no connection between dicecoin and duckdice,looks like totally different concept and developpers were not the same

Cryptogames.io and duckdice.io are so obviously built by the same group of people.  Even if they aren't the same exact person they are close enough in degrees that I have no doubt that duckdice knows who is leaving cryptogames.io up to steal the money from anyone that deposits there.
sr. member
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Also when i try access to website, my antivirus software wans me as This site not trusty
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1107
Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.  
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.

Tested (from usa):


It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io


if it is a referral link,then it makes no real sense
also just tested it from my country (not US) dicecoin loads as it is supposed to
so this redirect is most likely to cut the US customers,many sites are doing this to avoid legal actions or problems in the future
imho there is no connection between dicecoin and duckdice,looks like totally different concept and developpers were not the same
member
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Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.  
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.

Tested (from usa):


It's a referral link, but not sure why would they redirect to them. It's indeed a possibility that cryptogames.io = duckdice.io = dicecoin.io
full member
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Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.   
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry

Yes.  I'm 100% it redirects to duckdice. I have ever actually seen the dicecoin.io page until you mentioned it not redirecting for you.
legendary
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Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.   
USA is blocked by many dice sites but are you sure dicecoin redirects to duckdice if we visit from US IP? This sound quite serious now, if all three of this sites are connected than duckdice might also loss all the reputation they have earned so far. I have also played there and really like the user interface and support duckdice have.  Angry
full member
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I thought that the site has died already last year when there was no more updates here on their official thread. Anyway, why you did still play on this site while they have no active representatives on this forum?
Afaik it is owned by same person who manage dicecoin.io , and surprisingly the rep of dicecoin.io is also not active anymore here (last active almost at the same time time with the rep of cryptogames.io).
By the way, hope you did not make a big deposit there as I think there is no ways for you to get your money back.


I didn't see this post earlier but I am seeing dicecoin.io cryptogames.io and duckdice.io all owned by the same person.  When you go to dicecoin.io it redirects to duckdice.io now as well.  I ended up finding an old registrar page that listed an Edward jelly as the owner at one point (which also goes back to cryptogames.io).  So with your info and what I found independently in seems like it would be fair to go to duckdice for support or compensation on lost deposits. 

I dont think duckdice.io is owned by same person who own cryptogames and dicecoin.io. I just tried to open dicecoin.io but it does not direct me to duckdice. So I guess asking duckdice.io will not give you anything regarding your issue.



Dicecoin.io redirects to duckdice.io for certain when I go there.  It's because I'm going to it from a US IP and if I use a VPN I can actually get to dicecoin.io.  Cryptogames.io also blocks USA users although that was a later in the history of the site when they started doing that.   


Also a little more info:  "BitBatFan:

Quote from: BitBatFan on May 13, 2015, 07:24:13 AM
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Hi, nice site.
Are you the owner of dicecoin.io?

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Quote from: Cryptogames on May 13, 2015, 12:20:24 PM
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Nope, but we managed to put our link on their main page. As far as I know th=
ey're doing great and plan to grow, so I think it was a nice move.

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Hard to beleive that  Roll Eyes

http://whois.domaintools.com/cryptogames.io
http://whois.domaintools.com/dicecoin.io

Same owner, same hosting? Advertising other dice website on a dice website?
Backlink from dicecoin.io 4 weeks before publicly announce new website?

http://s2.postimg.org/5s1msq5tl/ahrefs1.png

I don't mind if you're the same owner or somehow involved with dicecoin.io, I=
just don't know why to hide?


Cryptogames:


Hi bitcoiners or... cryptocoiners!

Quote from: unibtc.4real on May 13, 2015, 02:39:43 PM
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Any way to invest?=20

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We'll think about it, but not right now, too much to do in other areas.

Quote from: Vezalke on May 13, 2015, 03:57:24 PM
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Kinda funny answer Cheesy=20
You do the search before registering a doman? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=3Dcryptog=
ames
Otherwise: Nice website.

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No drama Vezalke, it's the nice name for the site. Self-descriptive, clear, r=
elevant so we don't mind  Smiley

Quote from: RussianRaibow on May 13, 2015, 05:00:27 PM
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Establishing a .IO is always difficult. .COM/.NET/.ORG are good for the long=
run...

--

I see, you're talking about SEO. Actually we have experience of making web p=
roducts with .IO successful. It doesn't mean I don't agree with you. with .C=
OM/.NET it's easier to rank higher in the long run. But you know, we have ow=
n vision. Believing that a great product combined with a customer care will d=
o good with or without .COM.

Quote from: BitBatFan on May 13, 2015, 05:08:32 PM
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Hard to beleive that  Roll Eyes

http://whois.domaintools.com/cryptogames.io
http://whois.domaintools.com/dicecoin.io

Same owner, same hosting? Advertising other dice website on a dice website?
Backlink from dicecoin.io 4 weeks before publicly announce new website?

http://s2.postimg.org/5s1msq5tl/ahrefs1.png

I don't mind if you're the same owner or somehow involved with dicecoin.io, I=
just don't know why to hide?

--

BitBatFan, you're tough Cool I don't know if you're a fan of Sherlock Holmes, b=
ut I really like your investigation. Let me give you some more info. I know t=
he owner of dicecoin.io personally, he have a nice team, well rounded in tec=
h. We're more about design & user experience & marketing. So I did ask them t=
o help setup all the tech environment for us. We managed to put a backlink t=
o cryptogames.io on their main page as it was decided right at the pub. You c=
ould name it strategic partnership. Nevertheless in long run you'll definite=
ly see the difference in our approach.




BitBatFan:"
legendary
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I thought that the site has died already last year when there was no more updates here on their official thread. Anyway, why you did still play on this site while they have no active representatives on this forum?
Afaik it is owned by same person who manage dicecoin.io , and surprisingly the rep of dicecoin.io is also not active anymore here (last active almost at the same time time with the rep of cryptogames.io).
By the way, hope you did not make a big deposit there as I think there is no ways for you to get your money back.


I didn't see this post earlier but I am seeing dicecoin.io cryptogames.io and duckdice.io all owned by the same person.  When you go to dicecoin.io it redirects to duckdice.io now as well.  I ended up finding an old registrar page that listed an Edward jelly as the owner at one point (which also goes back to cryptogames.io).  So with your info and what I found independently in seems like it would be fair to go to duckdice for support or compensation on lost deposits. 

I dont think duckdice.io is owned by same person who own cryptogames and dicecoin.io. I just tried to open dicecoin.io but it does not direct me to duckdice. So I guess asking duckdice.io will not give you anything regarding your issue.
member
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★Adconity.com★
Do not deposit at cryptogames.io

Doge and Litecoin deposits do not appear on your account.  There is no indication on the site itself that a deposit was made (the transaction shows up on the blockchain fine of course)

The owner/support for the site is no where to be found.  No replies to emails, Twitter, Facebook and they haven't been on bitcointalk in a year.  Maybe they are dead.

Good that you warned everyone. I may have been a victim.
full member
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I thought that the site has died already last year when there was no more updates here on their official thread. Anyway, why you did still play on this site while they have no active representatives on this forum?
Afaik it is owned by same person who manage dicecoin.io , and surprisingly the rep of dicecoin.io is also not active anymore here (last active almost at the same time time with the rep of cryptogames.io).
By the way, hope you did not make a big deposit there as I think there is no ways for you to get your money back.


I didn't see this post earlier but I am seeing dicecoin.io cryptogames.io and duckdice.io all owned by the same person.  When you go to dicecoin.io it redirects to duckdice.io now as well.  I ended up finding an old registrar page that listed an Edward jelly as the owner at one point (which also goes back to cryptogames.io).  So with your info and what I found independently in seems like it would be fair to go to duckdice for support or compensation on lost deposits. 
hero member
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So cryptogames.io is an actual site?
I thought it was a phishing link so to steal people's login id so to be able to steal their account balances on the legit site crypto-games.net.

All very confused in this so far. Undecided
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