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Topic: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts - page 184. (Read 1404024 times)

legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
Bot or not, that short stack strategy is only profitable if you are the only one (or maybe one of two) players at a full table doing it, because it relies on you being all-in early with the hopes that big stacks play against each other badly.

However, it's no fun to play against that kind of shit, if it is going on, whether or not it's bots or just real people deliberately playing maggot stacks.

One solution would be to have fixed buyin tables.  Another would be either invite-only or friends-only tables, and get together a guild of all the real, established players.  New accounts not allowed.

LOL@Maggot stacks first time Ive heard that terminology, awesome. Yes raising min amounts or having tables available with at least 25chips for a 50 chip buyin as an example would solve the problem of one fifth buyins. With regard to bots its pretty suspicious when 3 players with new screen names  all sit at once with 10 chip buyins at a 50chip buyin table. I am sure players at higher limits would like the option of being able to create higher buyin minimum tables as well.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
Bot or not, that short stack strategy is only profitable if you are the only one (or maybe one of two) players at a full table doing it, because it relies on you being all-in early with the hopes that big stacks play against each other badly.

However, it's no fun to play against that kind of shit, if it is going on, whether or not it's bots or just real people deliberately playing maggot stacks.

One solution would be to have fixed buyin tables.  Another would be either invite-only or friends-only tables, and get together a guild of all the real, established players.  New accounts not allowed.
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
Site is becoming a botters paradise apparently. I open 5 tables at a time and its amazing how many brand new accounts on a daily basis buy in for one fifth in ring games. I open a table and immediately 2 or 3 brand new players sit down with one fifth buyins pretty obvious.
newbie
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The bigbtc should have that structure with a 10k stack. Its the flagship tournament, make it like the Sunday million for Christ sake
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
I implore seals to add more grindabit triple deuce type tournaments . Structure is awesome. Lets make the Saturday a 3k starting chip with same  structure as afeormentioned. It is really a shove fest when its down to 2 tables in the Saturday. Lets put the skill back please.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
I have tried SwC and it worked pretty well.  The game software works fine but it's not a polished product.  The major problem with SwC is there are not enough players online with the site struggling to fill 2 Hold'em tables most of the time.  If you find a table where players are abusing each other (not uncommon) it's impossible to move as all the other tables are empty.  Player quality is about average for online poker, with most playing extremely tight.



Many think the real players are getting sucked dry from in house player accounts hence the reason people not coming back and bleeding out slowly. Of course we cannot prove such allegations but many similar stories coming forward after speaking with seasoned poker pros. Hard to tell especially if one don't spend the time to see what they was dealt by the chain and even then how do you differentiate a honest bluff with a "I know I got you beat with higher 6 kicker etc." I have to agree not looking good but another poker site is getting ready to make a huge splash soon enough which should at least make the field competitive which is clearly good for real bitcoin players.

Sometimes I see misinformation about SwC as posted above.  IMO it's always best to relate SwC issues with relevant facts, links, and screenshots.

First off Cluster2k you are completely correct that our software works fine but is not a polished product.  That is something our team is working extremely hard on as we speak - to polish our clients and improve our server-side software.  Criticism well accepted on your first point.

your second point of "strugling to fill 2 hold'em tables" is not founded on facts.  here is the current screenshot of games from 10/10/2013 at 11:30am Las Vegas time:



18 cash games running, 9 Hold'em tables running with 5+ players.  Cluster2k - it is possible you checked in the middle of the night USA time, as ~4am-9am Vegas time has traditionally been our slowest times, but even then there are usuall 6 tables running.  Pokerscout is a very easy measure of how many players to expect at what times:  http://www.pokerscout.com/SiteDetail.aspx?site=SealswithClubs&ab=2125562


Many think the real players are getting sucked dry from in house player accounts hence the reason people not coming back and bleeding out slowly. Of course we cannot prove such allegations but many similar stories coming forward after speaking with seasoned poker pros.

aksplace,  these comments seem to lack any backing whatsoever.  I assume you have identified "house player accounts" to make such a statement, so I would encourage you to list them.  If such egregious cheating were taking place on SwC I feel all players should know about the usernames as early as possible.  Further more, you say you have spoke to "seasoned poker pros" and have "many similar stories coming forward"  please show me any links to this information. 

As always, anyone can contact me for any reason ---> [email protected]

I work hard with our team to ensure the safety and security of our site.  Unfounded rumors can spread, so I feel it's important to shut them down immediately.  Real threats to site security are top priority.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1031
I have tried SwC and it worked pretty well.  The game software works fine but it's not a polished product.  The major problem with SwC is there are not enough players online with the site struggling to fill 2 Hold'em tables most of the time.  If you find a table where players are abusing each other (not uncommon) it's impossible to move as all the other tables are empty.  Player quality is about average for online poker, with most playing extremely tight.



Thanks for the feedback!  I'm sure it will be used well.

Hope you used my referral link to register Smiley
newbie
Activity: 56
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the site that you are referring to is called infinity poker and they have the perfect name because they have been postponing there start up are Infiniti
sr. member
Activity: 602
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I have tried SwC and it worked pretty well.  The game software works fine but it's not a polished product.  The major problem with SwC is there are not enough players online with the site struggling to fill 2 Hold'em tables most of the time.  If you find a table where players are abusing each other (not uncommon) it's impossible to move as all the other tables are empty.  Player quality is about average for online poker, with most playing extremely tight.



Many think the real players are getting sucked dry from in house player accounts hence the reason people not coming back and bleeding out slowly. Of course we cannot prove such allegations but many similar stories coming forward after speaking with seasoned poker pros. Hard to tell especially if one don't spend the time to see what they was dealt by the chain and even then how do you differentiate a honest bluff with a "I know I got you beat with higher 6 kicker etc." I have to agree not looking good but another poker site is getting ready to make a huge splash soon enough which should at least make the field competitive which is clearly good for real bitcoin players.
legendary
Activity: 1692
Merit: 1018
I have tried SwC and it worked pretty well.  The game software works fine but it's not a polished product.  The major problem with SwC is there are not enough players online with the site struggling to fill 2 Hold'em tables most of the time.  If you find a table where players are abusing each other (not uncommon) it's impossible to move as all the other tables are empty.  Player quality is about average for online poker, with most playing extremely tight.

legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
Thanks to our loyal players.  FFF about to snap off

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legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1031
Does anyone have any information about KingOfSports?

He currently owes em 2BTC and hasn't been seen since.

Kos was on the other day in swc lobby saying he doesn't owe anyone anything may want to deliver message using messaging service that costs 2 chips so he will know to contact you next time he signs into the seals lobby.
Yeah I caught up with him on Just-Dice chat and he basically said he isn't paying me and he doesn't care.

I hope Micon can ban his account and/or release some details.

Just wait for bitcoins to drop back to $2, and then I'm sure he won't mind paying you back...
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
Does anyone have any information about KingOfSports?

He currently owes em 2BTC and hasn't been seen since.

Kos was on the other day in swc lobby saying he doesn't owe anyone anything may want to deliver message using messaging service that costs 2 chips so he will know to contact you next time he signs into the seals lobby.
Yeah I caught up with him on Just-Dice chat and he basically said he isn't paying me and he doesn't care.

I hope Micon can ban his account and/or release some details.

What an ass. 
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 501
Does anyone have any information about KingOfSports?

He currently owes em 2BTC and hasn't been seen since.

Kos was on the other day in swc lobby saying he doesn't owe anyone anything may want to deliver message using messaging service that costs 2 chips so he will know to contact you next time he signs into the seals lobby.
Yeah I caught up with him on Just-Dice chat and he basically said he isn't paying me and he doesn't care.

I hope Micon can ban his account and/or release some details.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1014
FPV Drone Pilot
Tonight our PLO8 series (bitcointalk was down for that time) comes to an end:

https://sealswithclubs.eu/plo8-mini-series-running-now/

9pm ET / 6pm PT: 475+25 PLO9 10k guar - that's a 10 bitcoin guaranteed PLO8ament!

10pm ET / 7pm PT: 190+10 deep3k / 3k starting chips / 3k guar (but been getting 30+ recently so it's blowing away the guar and is our "flagship nightly")
10pm ET / 7pm PT (yup same start time, multi-table it up!): Tuesday 100r (which is also becoming more popular)

GLGLGLGL all

#DontGetShutOut
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
yes, ive never used it but it does exist you can send someone message that pops up when they log in for 2 chips .k
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1031
Will preferred seating be available in the next update?

I would like to see no overlapping tables ahed of preferred seating. Any krill rolls for top 300 krillers in the works? Went from 450 to 311 with 10k krill in the past month.

wowzers!  Gratz!

There's a message function that costs 2 chips???
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
Does anyone have any information about KingOfSports?

He currently owes em 2BTC and hasn't been seen since.

Kos was on the other day in swc lobby saying he doesn't owe anyone anything may want to deliver message using messaging service that costs 2 chips so he will know to contact you next time he signs into the seals lobby.
legendary
Activity: 889
Merit: 1000
Will preferred seating be available in the next update?

I would like to see no overlapping tables ahed of preferred seating. Any krill rolls for top 300 krillers in the works? Went from 450 to 311 with 10k krill in the past month.
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