They have anti-collusion measures, although the perfect scam would not be obvious. Still ... every poker site has that problem.
There is even a poker bot competition somewhere, where the only players are bots. Universities join with their team of poker programming nerds. It's similar to chess computers playing vs each other.
But poker bots lack the human factor. They don't know how to psychologize or interact with people, they can't bluff (maybe randomly?) and if you involve real money, they stand a chance of being discovered by real human players and taken advantage of, unless the bot plays extremely tight.
The only advantage of bots? They don't eat or sleep.
Disadvantage? They might fold everything except AA. dunno. depends on the logic.
We all know what "Prohibition" does.
And ... I have 6 chips now. If you think I'm a threat ... you've got issues.
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September 23, 2013, 12:08:55 AM
September 22, 2013, 11:13:52 PM
Like Freemo said up there the info is out there, you have access to it, it will up to a coder if they want to do anything with it, as we don't have any user-api or something. Although that would be cool.
The only problem with an open API for a poker site is that it makes it a lot easier for bad guys to write malware. Bots are one thing, but so are programs to make collusion software really easy, i.e. rather than having to exchange it on some third-party chat program, they can actually write their own client to display each other's hole cards in real time.
Not sure how much of an issue this is, as it only makes more convenient what is already entirely possible to do without too much difficulty, i.e. sharing hole cards, and I frankly haven't seen many bots (yet) worth being concerned with outside of a few limited sets of circumstances.
September 22, 2013, 02:21:39 PM
Yes. I'm trying to ask directly, and also seek permission for this kind of thing. It's much better if it's site supported rather than trying to scrape the data from the screen (it can be done) or packet sniffing.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
Dabs hit me up [email protected] / let me forward you to some boys that may be able to help.
he is simply looking for his personal hole card info, i.e. an easy way to read his hand into some program he will build - just his 2 hole cards that he can see on his screen - i.e. instead of typing them into his program each time. I don't find anything wrong with this morally, but it looks like it's tough to do / we can't help him do it anyway. Like Freemo said up there the info is out there, you have access to it, it will up to a coder if they want to do anything with it, as we don't have any user-api or something. Although that would be cool.
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September 21, 2013, 10:27:16 AM
Coming from the traditional sites, even pre-Black Friday, cashouts in under 12 hours seems instant to me.
And I'm actually glad you process them manually. That makes me feel better about the safety of both my account and the site as a whole.
This is the truth.
September 21, 2013, 08:35:35 AM
Mikon can you answer my question?
September 21, 2013, 04:17:53 AM
Right now we don't want any money going out automatically. Everything gets human eyes on it.
Later it may be possible to have people checking 24 hours per day for near instant cashouts.
Cashouts are within 12 hours, including today.
Coming from the traditional sites, even pre-Black Friday, cashouts in under 12 hours seems instant to me.
And I'm actually glad you process them manually. That makes me feel better about the safety of both my account and the site as a whole.
September 21, 2013, 01:31:01 AM
I don't think anybody should be aloud analyse his hand before the hand end.Any reason why you want to help him Mikon?I don't consider this "friendlier"to me.
I'm only asking for what you, as the player, can already see. Your hole or pocket cards, and the flop, turn, river. I only see others if it goes to a show down. I think it's better to ask nicely, because as it is, anyone can just scrape and/or packet sniff.
Right now we don't want any money going out automatically. Everything gets human eyes on it.
Later it may be possible to have people checking 24 hours per day for near instant cashouts.
Cashouts are within 12 hours, including today.
Later it may be possible to have people checking 24 hours per day for near instant cashouts.
Cashouts are within 12 hours, including today.
My guess is this is all manual, and this is all cold storage. No chance of getting compromised.
September 20, 2013, 11:52:19 PM
Anther reason why many folks distaste having to wait up to a day to get paid as the chance of a compromise. I keep turning this particular wheel with ya Micon but not sure how far it if any at all for convincing to do such. If anything surely members who have been depositing and withdrawing since the beginning should have the auto pay option but assume this would require more technical work that is all tied up from the new proprietary software getting built. (PS are payouts a tad delayed today?)
Right now we don't want any money going out automatically. Everything gets human eyes on it.
Later it may be possible to have people checking 24 hours per day for near instant cashouts.
Cashouts are within 12 hours, including today.
September 20, 2013, 06:02:52 PM
Anther reason why many folks distaste having to wait up to a day to get paid as the chance of a compromise. I keep turning this particular wheel with ya Micon but not sure how far it if any at all for convincing to do such. If anything surely members who have been depositing and withdrawing since the beginning should have the auto pay option but assume this would require more technical work that is all tied up from the new proprietary software getting built. (PS are payouts a tad delayed today?)
September 20, 2013, 03:20:10 PM
Yes. I'm trying to ask directly, and also seek permission for this kind of thing. It's much better if it's site supported rather than trying to scrape the data from the screen (it can be done) or packet sniffing.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
Dabs hit me up [email protected] / let me forward you to some boys that may be able to help.
September 20, 2013, 01:43:29 PM
Yes. I'm trying to ask directly, and also seek permission for this kind of thing. It's much better if it's site supported rather than trying to scrape the data from the screen (it can be done) or packet sniffing.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
Dabs hit me up [email protected] / let me forward you to some boys that may be able to help.
September 18, 2013, 01:43:30 AM
Yes. I'm trying to ask directly, and also seek permission for this kind of thing. It's much better if it's site supported rather than trying to scrape the data from the screen (it can be done) or packet sniffing.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
If x supplies the network data, that would be better. While I haven't looked at it, this kind of data should somehow be encrypted, if it isn't already.
I'm counting on Seals not being like Stars and being "friendlier" with their poker players. It's not like I can see what the other players are holding.
September 17, 2013, 09:50:25 PM
@x, micon, FreeMoney. Is there an API for the client or something? I'd like to access my hole cards as I play, and feed it to some home made software of mine to analyze what I'm holding. Windows here.
To give you some more info..Probably there are 3 ways to do it:
- Almost all trackers use handhistory to see the hands. This is by far the easiest way but obviously I assume this is only AFTER the hand. So only useful for stats or something like that.
- In theory I think you could make a program that recognizes the cards on the screen.
- The traffic between the client and server is (imo) pretty easy. You could use Wireshark to check this out. Then u could make like a packet sniffer, I am pretty sure most languages have a library or something for that. This way you can look for the hole card information. Or you could make your own client like 'bet' of ender and use that to play and analyze, but that would be a bit more work :p
GL. And remember that programs that "give advice" or something are generally not allowed on all poker rooms. I am not sure what rules seals exactly has about it, but be sure to follow good poker ethics
September 17, 2013, 05:41:39 PM
top 300 krill earners has less then 30 peops I would really have liked to play in it. Im 425. When had top 500 at 3am only 30 people signed up. Wish yall had made it 500 culd have played ( gripe)
September 17, 2013, 05:14:20 PM
They will not let you cash out? I know you have to send them documents and all that , did you do that and still have problems?
Did that, still have probs.
Why don't you cashout to seals and then another wallet?
I got greedy, wanted the extra 15$/BTC in cash,
had no idea Mt. Gox had its head so far up its ass.
September 17, 2013, 11:04:11 AM
@x, micon, FreeMoney. Is there an API for the client or something? I'd like to access my hole cards as I play, and feed it to some home made software of mine to analyze what I'm holding. Windows here.
We don't offer an API like that. However, theoretically you could make it work, the info does come to you.
September 17, 2013, 08:31:47 AM
I haz some g00t news:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation-forum-brought-you-ppa/full-tilt-claims-administrator-claims-submission-beginning-sept-16th-1358109/
FTP might give me back some of my funds, someday.
Looks like the legalese wheels r rollin'.
If and when that occurs, and it gets sent to me,
and if there's still a Seals [I hope!]
a chunk of that will end up on Seals.
[600-1200$ ain't gonna do a helluva lot 4 me live]
You'll all get 2 c THE ROLL THAT DRAW BUILT.
I would luv it if Seals had enuf influence to twist Mt. Gox's arm really hard,
[they've owed me a 300$+ cashout, almost 4 weeks now]
but I'm willing to be realistic.
I have other plans 4 the Mt. Gox funds [tools, bike parts, all adds up...]
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation-forum-brought-you-ppa/full-tilt-claims-administrator-claims-submission-beginning-sept-16th-1358109/
FTP might give me back some of my funds, someday.
Looks like the legalese wheels r rollin'.
If and when that occurs, and it gets sent to me,
and if there's still a Seals [I hope!]
a chunk of that will end up on Seals.
[600-1200$ ain't gonna do a helluva lot 4 me live]
You'll all get 2 c THE ROLL THAT DRAW BUILT.
I would luv it if Seals had enuf influence to twist Mt. Gox's arm really hard,
[they've owed me a 300$+ cashout, almost 4 weeks now]
but I'm willing to be realistic.
I have other plans 4 the Mt. Gox funds [tools, bike parts, all adds up...]
I have money on gox also. They will not let you cash out? I know you have to send them documents and all that , did you do that and still have problems? Why don't you cashout to seals and then another wallet?
September 17, 2013, 02:41:04 AM
@x, micon, FreeMoney. Is there an API for the client or something? I'd like to access my hole cards as I play, and feed it to some home made software of mine to analyze what I'm holding. Windows here.
September 17, 2013, 01:55:41 AM
I haz some g00t news:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation-forum-brought-you-ppa/full-tilt-claims-administrator-claims-submission-beginning-sept-16th-1358109/
FTP might give me back some of my funds, someday.
Looks like the legalese wheels r rollin'.
If and when that occurs, and it gets sent to me,
and if there's still a Seals [I hope!]
a chunk of that will end up on Seals.
[600-1200$ ain't gonna do a helluva lot 4 me live]
You'll all get 2 c THE ROLL THAT DRAW BUILT.
I would luv it if Seals had enuf influence to twist Mt. Gox's arm really hard,
[they've owed me a 300$+ cashout, almost 4 weeks now]
but I'm willing to be realistic.
I have other plans 4 the Mt. Gox funds [tools, bike parts, all adds up...]
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/57/poker-legislation-forum-brought-you-ppa/full-tilt-claims-administrator-claims-submission-beginning-sept-16th-1358109/
FTP might give me back some of my funds, someday.
Looks like the legalese wheels r rollin'.
If and when that occurs, and it gets sent to me,
and if there's still a Seals [I hope!]
a chunk of that will end up on Seals.
[600-1200$ ain't gonna do a helluva lot 4 me live]
You'll all get 2 c THE ROLL THAT DRAW BUILT.
I would luv it if Seals had enuf influence to twist Mt. Gox's arm really hard,
[they've owed me a 300$+ cashout, almost 4 weeks now]
but I'm willing to be realistic.
I have other plans 4 the Mt. Gox funds [tools, bike parts, all adds up...]
September 16, 2013, 04:56:14 PM
My nick is bitBG. can I get some chips?
thanks for the good program. Hope it will be full with ppl and we will be able to play all the time...
thanks for the good program. Hope it will be full with ppl and we will be able to play all the time...
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