Topic: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts - page 209. (Read 1404011 times)

A "ridiculous graph" by someone that is a programmer and an employee sure looks like a red flag.

Also, played a couple freerolls and the site is still choppy for me.... other web access seems alright here.
Thanks again to management to responding quickly to everyone's concerns and frustrations.

Stupid is as stupid does  seals allows Ender to use its lobby as part of his staking program but aren't paying him? Really? He isn't making a lot of money for service he provides thru seals ? I have to lol at that. I am not spamming he shouldn't be able to provide a staking system that he is being paid for thru seals and because of seals and play tourneys also.

Im not going to bother with the other troll comments and am done with this subject as I am not going to get anywhere but it isn't right.

Are you fuxing joking donk? HE ISNT PROGRAMIN A POKER SITE, he prgramed a staking site, but even if he was programinga poker site, it isnt mavens software  so your claim that he should be prohibited from playing is ridiculous and stupid.

Your next claim that he is freerolling every tournament is even stupider, his profit from bet isnt so great and even if he had unlimited funds and would be donking tournies HE WOULDNT HAVE THE GRAPH HE HAS , with donking comes losses.


Are you seriously spamming this thread because your jelous of his poker skill? Ender is a winning player. Howg


ENDER ISNT PAID BY SWC. HE gets rake for people using his site. And the profit isnt making him filthy rich. /not presently anway /

So  programmers for  online poker sites should be allowed to play while serving as paid employees of the site as in Enders case?  Your analogy doesn't address this issue. You can argue semantics but people have to put in buy codes in seals lobby to get staked of which Ender gets paid through seals with clubs ergo conflict of interest as he is paid employee of Seals . Seals can claim he is doing this on his own and is in no way an employee but that doesn't really hold water. If ender was a player running like god it wouldn't really be an issue but the fact that he is a paid employee running like god makes it an issue. The fact that he is doing it out in the open doesn't give me a warm sense of security either. I have seen him shoving 5 10 type hands on a consistent basis and winning consistently  which is why I finally looked up his stats, his stats where more then impressive they where beyond phenomenal.

Skillwise I will put my game up against anyone, though maybe not luck wise.  I have no idea who said my game wasn't up to par because never saw that name on seals. I have never seen either one of the 2 posters other then spike btw why would you use a different name on here then seals? Rhetorical btw I know the answer.

The staking-intense environment found in the main/logins chatbox gives Seals
a certain air of sleaziness not seen on other sites, esp. to new users.
The staking SHOULD take place off-line iyam.


Yeah, this was more OK at the earlier, "start-up" era, esp. when BTC's were trading @ <10$.
Now it borders on a racket.

It damn sure wouln't be if Hellmuth was an employee/contractor @ the casino.
In smaller live cardrooms [ex: CircusCircus/Reno, little dives in Cali] I've seen playing dealers and floor staff.
But we're not talkin about Aria or the Rio... stricter guidelines would apply.

Personally, I'm not playing @ Ender's stakes. Nor he @ mine.
So I'm not personally affected. It just don't look kewl.

I dont see any problem with that at all either... You are just paranoid, if he wanted to do anything shady he would hide behind some anonymous ID. Thanks to him players like you can actually play big BTC eventhough skill-wise and bankroll-wise you wouldnt be even close to that as it sounds so why the hate ?

So rich people should not be allowed to play either then?

Poker is not a level playing field in any sense of the words outside of the same rules should apply to everyone.  That someone has extra resources to take more shots at a tournament than you is just life.  Believe me, I wish I had more money cause I'd be dumping it into the WSOP.  It's not "fair" that Hellmuth can buy into every event and I can only afford to buy into a few.  But poker isn't a level playing field and that's ok.

He is making money off the site for a service he provides for the site and is being compensated for it by the site directly. I am sorry I just don't feel it is fair he should be allowed to play in the tournaments as he is being compensated by the site as well as compensating the site. Obviously the site gave him permission to make money off it by providing a service for the site in reality making him a paid employee of the site for the service he provides.   I agree it is a great service for both the players and the site.  The site is able to make a lot of guarantees it otherwise might not be able to make.

For anyone who doesn't know, SealsDeals.info is a great site that helps facilitate staking deals at Seals. We didn't make the site and we don't run it. Ender, a Seals player, made the site and operates it and takes his own fees. When he plays he tries to win and he's (apparently, I haven't verified) been successful lately. There is no reason to think he wins more in tournaments because he gets a fee from other players staking deals.

I don't want to dismiss entirely the idea of conflict of interest regarding stakees and stakers, but it is a very common thing in poker tournaments and it's not been a problem at Seals.

Well lets post his graphs. Even so if nothing untoward is happening he has unlimited funds and could play every tournament on seals and have mounds and mounds of  money left over so he has a huge advantage  over the regular seals player in that regard alone and is freerolling all the tournaments he is in aside from having improbable statistics. Ender is the house in that he is able to fund every tourney if need be through compensation he gets for his stakes program so that's where I say it is a conflict of interest.  playing poker should be a level playing field and he has a huge advantage any way you look at it.

I don't personally see how it's a conflict of interest.  If you could show he was donking off his chips to people he was staking or something, then I think you might have something.  But being successful at tournaments is not a conflict of interest.  Even playing in tournaments where you are staking others isn't a problem. It happens all the time.  It's only a problem if you start playing those players differently because of it.  And that should be pretty easy to tell just by watching him play.

 Ender the guy who writes the staking program shouldn't be allowed to play in tournaments imo as it is a conflict of interest imo. I mean I have seen this guy run like god since I have been on the site. I have never bothered to check his graph until today and his graph is beyond  ridiculous. The guy has won 60 bitcoins since APRIL in about 2 months. Someone should post his graph on here there is not one downward spike in it over a 700 plus sample size .  Im not a computer programmer by any means but I feel someone who is writing the stakes program shouldn't have access to the tournaments he is getting enough compensation  by getting paid on all stakes on all winning players. There are other players who run well also but they don't write the stakes programs. Lets post the graph and see if it warrants looking into.

A lot of the tourneys would not meet guarantees if not for stakes that are offered by Ender and the service he provides for seals is benefiting Ender as well as Seals I feel its a big conflict of interest and the graph he has is suspect .

Aside from his graph being ridiculous its like he is freerolling every tournament because he has unlimited funds he is getting for writing the stakes software. It is like he is the bank as well as being a player.

2nd session, 1 hour+, included a tourney and 2 cash games, no probs.
the $pike seal of approval
 

Back to bak 13 and 14th big btc finishes are pretty demoralizing could have cashed in both couple of bad breaks and not enough good ones. Such a great tourney with great structure need more tourneys with starting stack of big btc and same levels. I heard something about some avatar tourneys waiting patiently for some avatar tourneys or even rake races so can get rid of my tired clover.

Loled at facebook video trying to fix seals with slew of wires and e cig.

hit me personally, I would hate to lose a frequent player of any sort.


Also, Android app just version'd

Should be all good across the 3 ways to play

Both are working now, just checked. Thank you.

Do you still get this problem now?

I don't and we've not gotten other reports. I'll see what I can find out.

Above poast scares me tho...cAPSLOCK iz hella talented.
We'll miss u bro. But I understand.

just put in 45 minutes. runs flawless.
Do my freerollz 2morrow, mebbe a 10PO/8 2nite. Mebbe not.

Overall, g00t job, team6

I click on the link Micon to download the new PC client and it says "Not Found

The requested URL /pcclient/swc_client-win v0.2.14.zip was not found on this server."

When I go to sealswithclubs.eu, I get this:
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server."