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Topic: SealsWithClubs.eu | Largest Bitcoin Poker Site | No Banking | Fast Cashouts - page 83. (Read 1404011 times)

legendary
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The Best Tipster on the Forum!!
i cant find any free table to try out my freeroll

i got that 1 chip but cant bet Sad
hero member
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Why is the customer service non responsive?
I have sent couple of emails in the past 2 weeks, with no reply.
sr. member
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1) I have SWC software installed on my computer, and this happened one time when I sat at a table, where all of a sudden my comodo firewall says the client is trying to access com memory or something. What does that mean?

2) My SWC has been "not responding" a few times for several seconds, what could be the problem to this?

3) Also I checked (they say you shouldn't do this) everything when I ran hijackthis, what problems could this cause?

Thanks!
legendary
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:p Nah desktop will stay available for sure imo. I agree its much better than some flash client.

Just saying they upgraded the web flash client and are testing it. I am not sure if they have or will make the same desktop changes. I played the beta HU shootout and that was fun (yet normal to most pokersites I guess) Pineapple holdem is interesting but not sure if ill rly play it.
legendary
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Just ignore chat if you don't want that on a pokersite Wink The new (flash?) client will have an "enable lobbychat" button to emphasize that they don't moderate chat.

are you saying the new client is going to be flash? omg flash was horrific compared to the desktop client available today. Makes sense as they are doing all beta testing on flash but what a horrific change that would be. Micon was in lobby today saying that new software is coming soon.
legendary
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DiceSites.com owner
You can look at the Beta Flash Client at "My Account" > "Redeem code" > "Connect to beta".

Sometimes developer Dr. is looking for beta-testers in lobbychat (and running Beta freerolls with real chips reward in normal site.)

I believe he said that client should be live in around 3 weeks. But I am not sure what exactly is updated and if the PC client will be updated etc.
legendary
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Just ignore chat if you don't want that on a pokersite Wink The new (flash?) client will have an "enable lobbychat" button to emphasize that they don't moderate chat.

Where did you get info on a new client? 

It has been said it was coming by the end of last year, then Q1 2014 and Q2 2014.  Whether it comes or not I'm still able to play.

BTW does anybody think that lobby chat is moderated Huh Cheesy

Donk4u for cardroom manager Grin Grin
legendary
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DiceSites.com owner
Just ignore chat if you don't want that on a pokersite Wink The new (flash?) client will have an "enable lobbychat" button to emphasize that they don't moderate chat.
full member
Activity: 169
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The site lacks a governing system.

Chat is out of hand with scamming,email/skype exchange to set up scams,begging and trolling.
The players are nasty when they lose and some of the player ids are very distasteful.
Play even seems suspect...

Has this site gone through a audit?
legendary
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Player in lobby for hours loaning accounts elligable for krillrolls freerolls. Player told cannot have 8 horses in a krill roll he owns so now loaning out multiple accounts for the krillrolls . I worked hard for my 50k krill and the 3 bitcoin freeroll this person devaluing my ev by flooding the krillrolls with mul tiple accounts.


Seals turns a blind eye to collusion and cheating . One of the admins was in the lobby and said didn't see that player was doing this so I asked him to check chat logs obv nothing will be done.

Player in lobby again today. Pressing his luck seals mgmt. did the appropriate finally. Thank you.
full member
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requesting those 20 chips transaction pending over 24 hour username "mdbasit"
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
1)  re:  cashout times   |   SwC has always taken a "security first" stance on all matters.  That is the reason for human eyes on every single cashout. Yes it sucks and takes a long time.  Yes it's most secure this way.  Yes it takes longer than instant.  We post the times clearly and have a brilliant record since 2011.  I can't see any move in the near future to instant cashouts, it is simply a security issue.


To respond to the bold section:

I recognize you are sympathizing with folks who feel the way you describe, and that's cool... but...

It absolutely does not suck.  It is a hallmark of why SwC security has worked, works now, and will continue to work.  It has saved my ass at least once, and I am grateful.

As to speed.  Seriously... this is a poker room.  Cashouts are handled by hand, and they generally take <12 hours.  Usually faster than that.  Tight security measures are worth a wait which is still quantum leaps faster than any major poker room.
legendary
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What I mean by my own wallet is the wallet(s) I have direct control over not the one on Seals.  From them I can transfer what I want when I want.  I have to pay the transaction fee but that is only 0.0001 btc or 6 cents US.

I first started using btc in order to play on Seals and used them for my wallet as I bought more.  Now I keep a lot less on there but don't move btc back and forth as I keep what I need on Seals.  I feel perfectly comfortable leaving it on Seals.  I have no idea what it takes for Seals to keep our btc safe.  I do know that many companies that people entrusted there btc to lost their customers btc.  Seals never has.

The computer wallet I always recommend is Electrum because it is easy to use and fairly idiot proof which is good for me.  No need to download the blockchain, no need to back it up for any reason.  Even if your computer is totally destroyed you lose nothing as long as you keep your seed safe.  Nobody but you are in control of your btc.
full member
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In regards to your second point, this has been discussed and answered many times.  In fact it is discussed on the previous page.  Did you miss it?

I prefer security over speed.  Because of SWC's procedures I feel completely safe keeping my btc there.

If I want both speed and security I can get that by using my own wallets.  Obviously that doesn't work if you have limited funds.


Explain what you mean by your own wallets? I must have missed this aspect on the site.

My lack of funds really doesnt play into the picture,my point is speed would increase the field and we should all want more players at the tables. Poker is not going to boom in its current state. You cant expect people to flock to bitcoin to play poker after what happened with the DOJ and these sites. Look how they have gone after Paypal,Skrill and the likes.Not to mention the collusion and cheating that keeps coming out,even involving some of the big names.  You will always read people asking when the big boom will come for poker and I think its Bitcoin or bust! If we cant get our ducks in a row,than this will never be like the good ole days of 2005.

I am asking a honest question as well,not being a smart ass. If you got a better way than I am currently going about it than awesome,fill me in.
full member
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1)  re:  cashout times   |   SwC has always taken a "security first" stance on all matters.  That is the reason for human eyes on every single cashout.  Yes it sucks and takes a long time.  Yes it's most secure this way.  Yes it takes longer than instant.  We post the times clearly and have a brilliant record since 2011.  I can't see any move in the near future to instant cashouts, it is simply a security issue.

2)  BIG BTC in a few hours.  Now 250 chips and 10 bitcoin guaranteed prizepool!  The largest bitcoin poker tournament each week!


It really bothers me when any customer service shows a lack of detail. You response to me is garbled for the fact that you either rushed it or did not care much about what I think as a customer. Point one is actually my second point and point two has nothing to do with my post. When you are telling me security is the shield that SWC rides on,you cant neglect detail as they go hand in hand.

I am either stunned or missing something in the security aspect that it takes 12 hours to transfer from a wallet manually.
Would understand if you did not want to have some one around 24hours to process these transactions due to the size of the player base. But security is just a lack of trying to find a better way of doing business. Just because you did it this way since 2011 does not mean it is right way to do it in 2014. Its the classic mistake in business to ignore the fresh look coming in through the back door to take out the dinosaur.

The other aspect that bothers me about leaning on the security aspect is the site does not reflect that.
Chat is a zoo of beggars and scammers,not to mention the discussion is off putting to a broad base of players.
Collusion seems to be going on and I am still new to this site but I can see something is not right with some of the regs.

I made a transfer from one account to another and back to test this feature and found it lacking in detail as well.
You transfer coin but the history shows btc amount and neither matched up. I log in and my coin count seems to drip a small amount day to day and this has nothing to do with play.

If you are happy with a small player base that is rampant with underage players and Americans that can not play anywhere so be it. I see room to really crack the door wide open with just a few adjustments and think your competition will as well.


Bit of ramble and nothing personal just think there is room to make changes and see that line for success right there.
legendary
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FPV Drone Pilot
1)  re:  cashout times   |   SwC has always taken a "security first" stance on all matters.  That is the reason for human eyes on every single cashout.  Yes it sucks and takes a long time.  Yes it's most secure this way.  Yes it takes longer than instant.  We post the times clearly and have a brilliant record since 2011.  I can't see any move in the near future to instant cashouts, it is simply a security issue.

2)  BIG BTC in a few hours.  Now 250 chips and 10 bitcoin guaranteed prizepool!  The largest bitcoin poker tournament each week!
newbie
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can u guys tell me where i can find the fastest finger free roll password?

Possibly the num1 question..... Watch the lobby... Occasionally fast finger freeroll (FFF) codes/passwords will be given out.  In times past SwC would fire some in various places on the internet.  Though, these freerolls have NOT been running very often as of late... AFAIK  There is a 66 freeroll under the "Sit & Go" tab.

Often, the cashout time is far less than 12hrs.


full member
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can u guys tell me where i can find the fastest finger free roll password?
legendary
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In regards to your second point, this has been discussed and answered many times.  In fact it is discussed on the previous page.  Did you miss it?

I prefer security over speed.  Because of SWC's procedures I feel completely safe keeping my btc there.

If I want both speed and security I can get that by using my own wallets.  Obviously that doesn't work if you have limited funds.
full member
Activity: 169
Merit: 100


1. I would like to see the lobby changed so it does not bounce around well scrolling through it. Meaning it resets back to where ever I clicked mid scroll through. I found this issue on more euro based sites with lower player fields in the past.

2. Something needs to be done about your transfer to and from accounts. Bitcoin is meant to be fast and 12 hour cashouts are unacceptable. You could say play at another site but then you are left with underage and American players.
The potential for so much more if you could figure this issue out,which all the sportsbooks have.
Could you let me know if you are planning to speed this process up,since I do like to send money back and forth.
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