Topic: SEC vs Binance - page 4. (Read 2522 times)

The story isn't completed yet. The media wants us to see only one side of the picture where we see that SEC has finally sued CZ and he is no longer the CEO but was this game between Binance VS SEC  OR  CZ vs SEC ?

CZ stepping down as the CEO by no means tells that Binance's future is dark or the exchange will be less popular as time goes on. This is not going to happen in my opinion. It is not easy to shut down binance worldwide when it is the most liquid exchange at the moment. Also, I don't think the Blackrock or others may overcome binance, outside the US binance market is too much strong.

You have a point but I believe he pleaded guilty just to waive the right to a trial but the lawsuit appears to be far more than we think because the US SEC's latest statement was that  CZ committed an FTX level of fraud.
What I am surprised about the whole lawsuit is that much information is not provided as to the reason why the SEC believes CZ committed the SBF level of offense.
Having said that, I starting to believe BlackRock has something to do with the lawsuit cause they want to be the major player in the US crypto market after the spot ETF approval.


The topic should be closed because want it?
This is a decentralized forum and since the story behind the reason why the topic was created is still in development automatically the topic is not completed.

I don't think people realise how serious that fee is. It's not "one of the biggest" but the biggest penalty, and not only in history of crypto, but in history of the treasury department. Google is not very helpful on this one, but I believe the previous highest fines were all below $1 billion.
This shows how hard they came on Binance, but also how serious the crypto industry has become, and I don't think the owners of the top crypto-businesses have been prepared for all this.
I wouldn't be surprised if CZ resigned just to see the end of it all and not risk a long time in prison. He still may be subject to investigation, but I imagine the settlement reached indicates the authorities are willing to drop the charges or at least go easy on him personally.
I wonder if this would ever happened if Binance made some big political donations like the FTX did.


I don't see them being allowed to freely compete in US or EU. That looked like a targeted action to remove the Chinese business from being on the top in favour of locally owned exchanges.

The story can be considered complete, close the topic

Some people are presenting in such a way that CZ Volunteering stepped down as a gesture to save binance from all these money laundering allegations which may not be true as it was SEC who put all these cases on binance owner and he had no choice but to either proof himself right or face the consequences.
$4.3 billion settlement is one of the biggest settlements in the history of crypto.



Richard Teng is the new CEO of Binance and for sure, when things are run under the new management, we never know how they progress. If SEC stops chasing them, Binance may still come good out of this crisis but if the SEC regulations keep on tightening on binance then I am afraid Richard Teng won't be able to resist much.

If the settlement is reached and it's Binance that will be paying the fees, not SEC, and if Binance will be effectively out of the US (which was probably the goal of the prosecution) and if CZ pleads guilty of (some of) the charges, then it's a big win for the SEC, however, you want to look at it.

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It's puzzling how a lot of the major news worldwide are reporting on CZ pleading guilty to money-laundering charges, which is completely not true. As far as I understand, CZ pleaded guilty on a violation of sanctions/restrictions, which has nothing to do with actual money laundering. Violating "Anti Money Laundering" laws doesn't have to mean money laundering.

It's a shame, from the customers' perspective, Binance was one of the most solid centralised exchanges out there. I hope they'll survive, although, without CZ, it might not be the same.

Well CZ plead guilty so he lost as he is guilty
that would mean the sec wins.

When a government agency is going after you and you plead guilty most people would say the government win and the plaintiff loses.

CZ is a convicted criminal by his own admission.

Does this mean I think he is bad evil etc. No it means he lost the case.

I don't know what you mean by the SEC wins. Although, CZ pleaded guilty to money laundry but his hearing is still tomorrow and that's why he was told to remain in the US before he sought permission to travel which I don't know if he was granted permission.

sec wins!

after the battle they had over ripple which they lost I thought they would lose this one for sure.

The total fees associated with this settlement exceed $4 billion, comprising a forfeiture of $2.5 billion, a fine of $1.8 billion, and personal payments from Zhao amounting to about $50 million​​​​. https://crypto.news/zhaos-resignation-and-guilty-plea-a-new-era-for-binance-and-crypto/

Changpeng Zhao, Binance’s ex-CEO, represents a substantial risk of flight given his minimal ties with the U.S., prosecutors said.

U.S. prosecutors are asking Changpeng Zhao, Binance founder and ex-CEO, not to leave the country ahead of his sentencing hearing scheduled for February 2024.

In a filing on Wednesday, prosecutors said that Zhao, a citizen of the United Arab Emirates and Canada, should not be permitted to return to his home in the UAE before sentencing on February 23 next year given “the substantial risk of flight posed by Zhao.”
https://www.theblock.co/post/264457/prosecutors-seek-to-keep-cz-in-the-u-s-until-february-sentencing

I quoted the news, but as I understand it, 4.3 billion is the total amount of fines, otherwise there are errors in many news stories.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2023/nov/21/binance-settlement-crypto-exchange
"The attorney general Merrick Garland said at a press conference that the total of $4.3bn in fines Binance and Zhao had agreed to pay as part of guilty pleas was one the largest penalties the justice department had ever obtained from a criminal matter."

Wow. This is insane. I did not see that coming.
Are we sure that $4.3 billion is the correct figure and not typing error? Fincen is reporting on $3.4 billion, which is the highest settlement in US history:

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy1925

I have my doubts whether Binance will survive that. They already received severe beating from almost every side (I had to move my funds elsewhere due them no longer supporting GBP transactions). Media are already reporting that ~$1 billion of assets has left the platform after the news came out and it's not going to get any better anytime soon.
Unless the settlement allows the payment to be made in manageable chunks over a long period of time, I think this might be the end of Binance. Or maybe they'll just scale down, stay outside of the US sphere of influence and never pay that fee. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

"Binance encouraged U.S. users to obscure their location" - do we have any details on what exactly is this referring to? I find it hard to believe they were openly encouraging US customers to sign up.

Recent events are just crazy!
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/binance-founder-changpeng-zhao-steps-down-pleads-guilty/ar-AA1kiU5B
"The chief executive of Binance, the largest global cryptocurrency exchange, stepped down and pleaded guilty to violating criminal U.S. anti-money-laundering requirements, in a deal that might preserve the company’s ability to continue operating, according to court documents.

Changpeng Zhao appeared in Seattle federal court Tuesday and entered his plea, according to court records. Prosecutors accused Binance, which Zhao owns, of facilitating transactions with sanctioned groups. Binance encouraged U.S. users to obscure their location so the firm could avoid complying with U.S. anti-money-laundering laws, prosecutors said.

Binance pleaded guilty and agreed to pay fines totaling $4.3 billion, which includes amounts to settle civil allegations made by regulators."

Historical tweet CZ
https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1727063503125766367


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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/binance-to-make-complete-exit-from-us-pay-billions-to-fincen-ofac-on-top-of-doj-settlement/ar-AA1kjszk
Crypto exchange Binance will leave the U.S., pay billions in fines and appoint a monitor for five years to settle charges with the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) and Office of Foreign Asset Control (OFAC), the U.S. Treasury Department's money laundering and sanctions watchdogs, according to press releases shared Tuesday.

https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1727087727751864436
"Looking Ahead

This plea agreement strikes me as robust, onerous and is certainly unprecedented in the cryptoverse.

The question is not just whether Binance can survive the litany of extraordinary conditions of the monitoring provisions -- there's a lot more to ponder.  

For example, I am wondering whether any person will want to do business with Binance when the U.S. Department of Justice and the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network of the U.S. Treasury Department may have unfettered access, 24-7, 365 days a year, to Binance customer information. That sort of exposure seems anathema to the crypto ethos of libertarian financial transactions.

Only time will tell. More info and pleadings to follow friends."



https://twitter.com/JohnReedStark/status/1727323605665546497
"Why The Binance DOJ/FinCEN/CFTC Actions Are a Huge SEC Victory (Even Though the SEC Was AWOL From the Plea Party)"

4 Billion

Just in case, I will withdraw all funds from there. I feel restless somehow reading the latest news

https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3242298/us-justice-department-seeking-more-us4-billion-binance-end-criminal-case
"US Justice Department is seeking more than US$4 billion from Binance to end criminal case
Negotiations between the Justice Department and Binance include the possibility that its founder Changpeng Zhao would face criminal charges in the US
The agreement seeks to strike a balance that would allow Binance to continue operating, rather than risk a collapse that could cause negative fallout for markets

However, Binance would likely be expected to pay more than US$4 billion, which would be one of the largest-ever penalties in a criminal cryptocurrency case."
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The US government wants to return the money that Binance took from American hamsters

I have already known this and that is why I advocate that people should stop spreading FUD against Binance. I understand that many people do not like CZ and his binance but we should manage the situation because if anything happens Binance, it will affect the larger crypto industry.
As bitcoin is to cryptocurrency, that is how Binance is to CEXs. Many are afraid of Binance dominance of the market and yet it is happening right in our presence.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/the-worlds-biggest-crypto-firm-is-melting-down/ar-AA1hhv3b
"Binance now handles about half of all trades where cryptocurrencies are directly bought and sold, down from about 70% at the start of the year, according to data provider Kaiko.

What happens to Binance will have immense implications for the crypto industry because the exchange is so big. Industry players and watchers say other exchanges would fill the void if Binance were to collapse. But in the short term, liquidity in the market could evaporate, driving the price of tokens sharply down."

but do not forget that the US Department of Justice is still investigating the Binance exchange and the main charges and fines have not yet been brought.

Many people are feeling indifferent and probably unconcerned about this Binance and SEC battle. If such a legal batle happens between the government and any arm of the crypto industry, the crypto enthusiasts will always rally round their own and support them. But why the case of CZ and Binance is different is because many people are not inlove with the activities of Binance and his smart move of dominace in the crypto industry. A vast majority do not like anything about  CEX generally, as such they felt the battle is against CZ and not the crypto at large.
But I tell you, if Binace bleeds, the market will surely be bloody as well, believe me on this. And if it eventually happens any moment, bull run may not accompany this circle's halving.

@pawel7777. There is a few of them in social media, however, they always appear to hate CZ, KYC and centralized exchanges as a whole. I am not arguing that CZ is not a clown and a hustler but it is head scratching to witness them to want uncle Gary to be victorious in putting CZ in prison. This is also funny because this will not be good for the cryptospace. This will set another precedent that if target no.1 is finished, who will be target no.2 and 3? This might only be the beginning if CZ does not fight the lawsuits filed against him and Binance.