Topic: Secrets of sports betting (Read 2580 times)

Quote from: South Park on May 30, 2017, 05:29:37 PM

The only secret is "pure luck"! From my personal experience, always look for edge which brings good ROI over the long term. Check odds before confirming your bet and look for low risk in high odds. You will be always winner, if you know what you are doing Wink

But that is not really a secret, a way to make money with sports bets is to use arbitrage betting but finding arbitrage opportunities is difficult and time consuming, and is also not a really big secret at all, but it is one of the few way that I can think of where you can make money with sports betting, but the problem is that is a very risky method to try to make money.

Arbitrage betting is the most risk free method and it is not only possible in sports betting but also in trading, however as risk free as it is, the difficulty is hard since you need to spend time to find a certain line where you can use arbitrage betting, and considering the difference is only a little percentage you need to have a decent amount of capital to make a good amount from arbitrage betting.

I disagree on the risk free part, some call those bets safe bets but that is incorrect, there are many things that can go wrong when you make one of those bets, one of the possibilities is that you make a mistake and what you saw was not really an arbitrage opportunity, another pitfall is that the bet was so good the bookie thinks the odds were out of line and decides to not pay the bet.

i guess the last part that you have said is correct house can cancel the games if they found out that they place a wrong odds, it happen before and they will not pay you for that mistake so risk still there even you do arbitrage betting, but if you got lucky and your bet was successfully made its an easy money making system though.

Yeah, that is what I meant, don’t get me wrong you can make money with arbitrage, I’m just pointing out that is not as easy as some may think and that there are risks, especially if we consider that if you want to make a lot of money you need to bet big amounts and you only need to make one mistake to lose a lot of money in a relatively short amount of time.

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One secret that I would like to share everyone is that always back the underdogs and go for the big odds rather than backing favorites.

Actually when you see sports like tennis specially you will notice a lot of underdogs wins matches and players like Nadal would loose more often than the odds suggest ( more on hard and grass courts ) so these are some important tips for anyone dong sports betting.

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Quote from: channingwilmer on May 30, 2017, 08:47:19 PM

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I either wait for the last minute or I bet while the game is playing. Sometimes, if you bet too early, there are last minute changes to the lineup that will greatly affect the outcome of the game. It is better to watch out for that changes.

You will get the even lower odds if you make a bet during the game. Therefore, I highly recommend you should analyze the match and make a bet before the game starts

indeed We do get a lower ods but we also don't know what happens later in the game example if suddenly important players get a red card or injury at least we can be anticipate. I just say there is also the benefit of betting when live game.

Betting in-play is sometimes good too though as you can easily analyze who's playing how .. I mean we see a match vs Djokovic vs Nadal on hard court would have odds like 3 on nadal and Djokovic would be favorite with 1.4 and actually Nadal should have 10.00 odds .. the odds are 3 because of his rankings and the clay ability. Hence, wait and watch and you will see who's struggling on what surface.

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Quote from: kodes88 on June 03, 2017, 12:33:39 AM

Quote from: cotton ball on June 01, 2017, 09:37:13 PM

Sports betting today is very easy to guess if what we put is a team of big teams in English, Italian and Spanish league. They are obviously winning, just how do we analyze the odds offered. In this case the bet in live games is very interesting, because our winning potential is double bet.

But in sports betting like footballcoin/fantacalcio manajer, we can only bet before the game starts and wait for the final result only. It's much simpler than sports betting scorers, the secret is actually not there, there's just an analysis that we trial and error every day.

Sport betting is not just about football, but if we talk about football, I agree with you. Choosing a team from the big leagues like the English Premier League, Spain and Italy will make it easier for us. At least we know the big teams that are there, we know the conditions of the teams there, so our chances to win big enough.

Bet on big teams ML for sure will give us a better chance to win but don't forget, we will get a small profit from such betting. It's like betting on 90% or even higher win of chance at dice game. But fortunately, there are a bunch of markets in a single match from sports betting, hence we have a lot of choices to make.

The odds will not help us win if we are doing it blindly, there are odds with low payout that will not give you win although there is a higher chance because odds are based on chances. However, not all odds are real, bookmakers are very smart in reading the perception of the people, if you will not make a thorough research you will not be able to arrive with a confident decision which will lead you to a long term success.

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Quote from: kodes88 on June 03, 2017, 12:33:39 AM

Quote from: cotton ball on June 01, 2017, 09:37:13 PM

Sports betting today is very easy to guess if what we put is a team of big teams in English, Italian and Spanish league. They are obviously winning, just how do we analyze the odds offered. In this case the bet in live games is very interesting, because our winning potential is double bet.

But in sports betting like footballcoin/fantacalcio manajer, we can only bet before the game starts and wait for the final result only. It's much simpler than sports betting scorers, the secret is actually not there, there's just an analysis that we trial and error every day.

Sport betting is not just about football, but if we talk about football, I agree with you. Choosing a team from the big leagues like the English Premier League, Spain and Italy will make it easier for us. At least we know the big teams that are there, we know the conditions of the teams there, so our chances to win big enough.

Bet on big teams ML for sure will give us a better chance to win but don't forget, we will get a small profit from such betting. It's like betting on 90% or even higher win of chance at dice game. But fortunately, there are a bunch of markets in a single match from sports betting, hence we have a lot of choices to make.

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Quote from: cotton ball on June 01, 2017, 09:37:13 PM

Sports betting today is very easy to guess if what we put is a team of big teams in English, Italian and Spanish league. They are obviously winning, just how do we analyze the odds offered. In this case the bet in live games is very interesting, because our winning potential is double bet.

But in sports betting like footballcoin/fantacalcio manajer, we can only bet before the game starts and wait for the final result only. It's much simpler than sports betting scorers, the secret is actually not there, there's just an analysis that we trial and error every day.

Sport betting is not just about football, but if we talk about football, I agree with you. Choosing a team from the big leagues like the English Premier League, Spain and Italy will make it easier for us. At least we know the big teams that are there, we know the conditions of the teams there, so our chances to win big enough.

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My bets are mostly based on extensive amount of statistics ( I have collected a lot of free resources over the time ) and on my personal experience mainly in soccer. I also mix this with some news about the teams like questions of: are key players injured, are there positve/negative rumors around a team, how have the teams performed in the previous games, etc.

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Quote from: South Park on June 02, 2017, 09:55:19 AM

Quote from: South Park on May 30, 2017, 05:29:37 PM

The only secret is "pure luck"! From my personal experience, always look for edge which brings good ROI over the long term. Check odds before confirming your bet and look for low risk in high odds. You will be always winner, if you know what you are doing Wink

But that is not really a secret, a way to make money with sports bets is to use arbitrage betting but finding arbitrage opportunities is difficult and time consuming, and is also not a really big secret at all, but it is one of the few way that I can think of where you can make money with sports betting, but the problem is that is a very risky method to try to make money.

Arbitrage betting is the most risk free method and it is not only possible in sports betting but also in trading, however as risk free as it is, the difficulty is hard since you need to spend time to find a certain line where you can use arbitrage betting, and considering the difference is only a little percentage you need to have a decent amount of capital to make a good amount from arbitrage betting.

I disagree on the risk free part, some call those bets safe bets but that is incorrect, there are many things that can go wrong when you make one of those bets, one of the possibilities is that you make a mistake and what you saw was not really an arbitrage opportunity, another pitfall is that the bet was so good the bookie thinks the odds were out of line and decides to not pay the bet.

i guess the last part that you have said is correct house can cancel the games if they found out that they place a wrong odds, it happen before and they will not pay you for that mistake so risk still there even you do arbitrage betting, but if you got lucky and your bet was successfully made its an easy money making system though.

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Quote from: South Park on May 30, 2017, 05:29:37 PM

Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on June 01, 2017, 05:33:43 AM

The only secret is "pure luck"! From my personal experience, always look for edge which brings good ROI over the long term. Check odds before confirming your bet and look for low risk in high odds. You will be always winner, if you know what you are doing Wink

But that is not really a secret, a way to make money with sports bets is to use arbitrage betting but finding arbitrage opportunities is difficult and time consuming, and is also not a really big secret at all, but it is one of the few way that I can think of where you can make money with sports betting, but the problem is that is a very risky method to try to make money.

Arbitrage betting is the most risk free method and it is not only possible in sports betting but also in trading, however as risk free as it is, the difficulty is hard since you need to spend time to find a certain line where you can use arbitrage betting, and considering the difference is only a little percentage you need to have a decent amount of capital to make a good amount from arbitrage betting.

I disagree on the risk free part, some call those bets safe bets but that is incorrect, there are many things that can go wrong when you make one of those bets, one of the possibilities is that you make a mistake and what you saw was not really an arbitrage opportunity, another pitfall is that the bet was so good the bookie thinks the odds were out of line and decides to not pay the bet.

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Sports betting today is very easy to guess if what we put is a team of big teams in English, Italian and Spanish league. They are obviously winning, just how do we analyze the odds offered. In this case the bet in live games is very interesting, because our winning potential is double bet.

But in sports betting like footballcoin/fantacalcio manajer, we can only bet before the game starts and wait for the final result only. It's much simpler than sports betting scorers, the secret is actually not there, there's just an analysis that we trial and error every day.

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Quote from: channingwilmer on May 30, 2017, 08:47:19 PM

Quote from: milewilda on June 01, 2017, 05:45:36 AM

I either wait for the last minute or I bet while the game is playing. Sometimes, if you bet too early, there are last minute changes to the lineup that will greatly affect the outcome of the game. It is better to watch out for that changes.

You will get the even lower odds if you make a bet during the game. Therefore, I highly recommend you should analyze the match and make a bet before the game starts

indeed We do get a lower ods but we also don't know what happens later in the game example if suddenly important players get a red card or injury at least we can be anticipate. I just say there is also the benefit of betting when live game.

Yes, Live games give u more better opportunity to earn in betting as when the game is going on, you can better know who will win and the bet made during the live match has some better chances of winning.

to me i myself too much interested in sports betting, and specially through cricket matches, because i am too much confident that through sports betting i can really make good profit from gambling, because i have good experience in cricket match, i almost know all the players of cricket matches, and their specialties. therefore betting on cricket matches is my favourite gambling, hope in coming. Champion trophy i will show good performance.

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Quote from: milewilda on May 31, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

Quote from: South Park on May 30, 2017, 05:29:37 PM

Quote from: BitcoinsGreat on June 01, 2017, 05:33:43 AM

The only secret is "pure luck"! From my personal experience, always look for edge which brings good ROI over the long term. Check odds before confirming your bet and look for low risk in high odds. You will be always winner, if you know what you are doing Wink

But that is not really a secret, a way to make money with sports bets is to use arbitrage betting but finding arbitrage opportunities is difficult and time consuming, and is also not a really big secret at all, but it is one of the few way that I can think of where you can make money with sports betting, but the problem is that is a very risky method to try to make money.

Arbitrage betting is the most risk free method and it is not only possible in sports betting but also in trading, however as risk free as it is, the difficulty is hard since you need to spend time to find a certain line where you can use arbitrage betting, and considering the difference is only a little percentage you need to have a decent amount of capital to make a good amount from arbitrage betting.

Arbitrage trading or betting does really require big amounts or capital for you to be able to feel the profits even on small percentage its still decent when you won and the hassle thing on this kind of move is seeking for sites and do compare the odds which really consumes time and hassle on transfering or placing bets.Talking about the risk i can say it has lesser risk compared on other gambling stuffs.

i am agree about arbitrage trading or betting needs big amounts to do because if we only use small amounts, i am afraid the profit we make is only cut for the fees of sending the transactions. but with big amounts, the profit that we can take is really big and the fees is not be a problem for us. the other side, i agree with the only secret is pure luck because we need to have luck in every gambling games we've played so we can win the games although its not easy to win, but we have big chances to win.

Thats what i really want to say,bigger bankroll would be always recommended for arbitrage and as you said if we do make use small amounts it would only eaten up by fees on making transfer which is a really senseless thing to do at all. This kind of way might be possible on big bettors and i know there are some of them who are still making this method to earn.

but if we are only curious about how to feels when we are doing arbitrage then we can use small amount like i said and after we know how it feels, we can choose to continue doing arbitrage or not because its our decision. but always remember, when we make one decision then we need to know and responsible about what will happen to us in future and we need to maintain our money for how much we need or want to spend in arbitrage. always use the money we are ready to loss and never thinking that we can recover our loss in any short or long term later.

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Quote from: channingwilmer on May 30, 2017, 08:47:19 PM

Quote from: maydna on May 31, 2017, 10:01:50 AM

I either wait for the last minute or I bet while the game is playing. Sometimes, if you bet too early, there are last minute changes to the lineup that will greatly affect the outcome of the game. It is better to watch out for that changes.

You will get the even lower odds if you make a bet during the game. Therefore, I highly recommend you should analyze the match and make a bet before the game starts

indeed We do get a lower ods but we also don't know what happens later in the game example if suddenly important players get a red card or injury at least we can be anticipate. I just say there is also the benefit of betting when live game.

Yes, Live games give u more better opportunity to earn in betting as when the game is going on, you can better know who will win and the bet made during the live match has some better chances of winning.

I do agree that during the live match we can predict more accurately but that doesn't mean that we will win for sure. Because if that is the case then no gambling house will allow bet on live matches. Also when the match is live and winning team mostly will have a very less odds compared to before match start. It has both advantage and disadvantage, remember gamble carefully.

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Quote from: milewilda on May 31, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

Quote from: South Park on May 30, 2017, 05:29:37 PM

The only secret is "pure luck"! From my personal experience, always look for edge which brings good ROI over the long term. Check odds before confirming your bet and look for low risk in high odds. You will be always winner, if you know what you are doing Wink

But that is not really a secret, a way to make money with sports bets is to use arbitrage betting but finding arbitrage opportunities is difficult and time consuming, and is also not a really big secret at all, but it is one of the few way that I can think of where you can make money with sports betting, but the problem is that is a very risky method to try to make money.

Arbitrage betting is the most risk free method and it is not only possible in sports betting but also in trading, however as risk free as it is, the difficulty is hard since you need to spend time to find a certain line where you can use arbitrage betting, and considering the difference is only a little percentage you need to have a decent amount of capital to make a good amount from arbitrage betting.

Arbitrage trading or betting does really require big amounts or capital for you to be able to feel the profits even on small percentage its still decent when you won and the hassle thing on this kind of move is seeking for sites and do compare the odds which really consumes time and hassle on transfering or placing bets.Talking about the risk i can say it has lesser risk compared on other gambling stuffs.

i am agree about arbitrage trading or betting needs big amounts to do because if we only use small amounts, i am afraid the profit we make is only cut for the fees of sending the transactions. but with big amounts, the profit that we can take is really big and the fees is not be a problem for us. the other side, i agree with the only secret is pure luck because we need to have luck in every gambling games we've played so we can win the games although its not easy to win, but we have big chances to win.

Thats what i really want to say,bigger bankroll would be always recommended for arbitrage and as you said if we do make use small amounts it would only eaten up by fees on making transfer which is a really senseless thing to do at all. This kind of way might be possible on big bettors and i know there are some of them who are still making this method to earn.

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Quote from: channingwilmer on May 30, 2017, 08:47:19 PM

Quote from: CarlesPuyol on May 27, 2017, 04:59:24 AM

I either wait for the last minute or I bet while the game is playing. Sometimes, if you bet too early, there are last minute changes to the lineup that will greatly affect the outcome of the game. It is better to watch out for that changes.

You will get the even lower odds if you make a bet during the game. Therefore, I highly recommend you should analyze the match and make a bet before the game starts

indeed We do get a lower ods but we also don't know what happens later in the game example if suddenly important players get a red card or injury at least we can be anticipate. I just say there is also the benefit of betting when live game.

Yes, Live games give u more better opportunity to earn in betting as when the game is going on, you can better know who will win and the bet made during the live match has some better chances of winning.

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Hi guys,
I see here planty of topics about sports betting but none of them really helps us in making conclusions about picking the right winning picks.
I would like to try something in this topic:
I want you guys to write here your decision making while you choose a pick.

I will constanly update this post with the best ideas and tips of yours so all of us can see and maybe use it to choose their picks.

Lets start:

1. Before I choose my final pick, im trying to get into the bookies head and think like them. Eventually, they try to confuse us with the odds they put. If the odds looks suspicious to me for example -if the odds are too good to be true in specific pick, I believe that most probably its a trap from the odd makers and im getting away from this pick. (CarlesPuyol)

2. Checking ideas of other people\tipsters and compare (YuginKadoya)

3. Checking previous games of the chosen teams (Skarner21)

4. ALWAYS checking for injuries and missing players before betting (CarlesPuyol)

5. follow the journey of the tournament and the conditions of the teams that will compete (kodes88)

good job in pointing out these things that can definitely affect the outcome of any sport bets you make dude. and the good thing with sports betting is that the information you would be looking for would readily be available pretty much anywhere. stats, injury reports, everything's there initially when you make a bet so even if you're not a hardcore fan of a certain sport, you would have an idea of where to bet on

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Quote from: romero121 on May 28, 2017, 09:47:27 AM

Quote from: EdenHazard on May 28, 2017, 07:04:21 AM

don't lured by the low odds and think automatically it could have high chance.

it is a wrong thought , go for 2 bet option like odd or even , under/over and compare it to a lot of sportsbetting sites. you might could see there is a gap and your feeling found it as a winning choice, not only a feeling if you do some statistics analysis you might see it as an almost sure winning bet.

Most of the time gamblers select the low odds based on the strategy developed by the gambling website itself without making any analysis regarding the event. Some feels lucky and gets a winning while the others just feel worse of winning big if they have selected the higher odds.

the bookmaker play with the probability , and they know how much their chance to make money over there , no wonder the lines always lured people to place their but in hurry before to think clearly , it is a trap odds , a visual trap unconsciously , did you aware about it?

do the math and you will find it is odd , and get your high winning chance then.

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Quote from: channingwilmer on May 30, 2017, 08:47:19 PM

Quote from: milewilda on May 31, 2017, 12:50:36 AM

I either wait for the last minute or I bet while the game is playing. Sometimes, if you bet too early, there are last minute changes to the lineup that will greatly affect the outcome of the game. It is better to watch out for that changes.

You will get the even lower odds if you make a bet during the game. Therefore, I highly recommend you should analyze the match and make a bet before the game starts

When there will be clear clue about who is going to win, we will get starting lower odds. This is how sports betting is typically working.

If you want to have better odds even after the start of the match, you dare to bet on the team/player who is currently having lesser chances for winning. It will be working in some sports like cricket where sometimes the chances of winning will swing from one team to another.

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