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Topic: Seeking a team to develop Bitcointalk 2.0 forums (apply within) - page 7. (Read 23500 times)

hero member
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legendary
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ADT developer
I ancerd the post but it was removed  Angry
hero member
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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
you can see a full list of users ip addresses

TERRIBLE idea.  You want to give hackers free reign against those users who don't bother to proxy in?

If you want to give people a tool to identify sock puppets, then hash the IP address.  The same IP address will have the same hash.
With a complicated, non public hash algorithm, like sha256(ripemd160(endianreverse(sha512(md5(IP)))))

A random salt would be better - then you don't need to depend on 'secret sauce'
hero member
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Satoshi's first post in these forums:

Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum!

The old forum can still be reached here:
http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/boards/index.php

I'll repost some selected threads here and add updated answers to questions where I can.

FAQ
http://bitcoin.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=FAQ

Download
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitcoin/files/
legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
you can see a full list of users ip addresses

TERRIBLE idea.  You want to give hackers free reign against those users who don't bother to proxy in?

If you want to give people a tool to identify sock puppets, then hash the IP address.  The same IP address will have the same hash.
With a complicated, non public hash algorithm, like sha256(ripemd160(endianreverse(sha512(md5(IP)))))
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
you can see a full list of users ip addresses

TERRIBLE idea.  You want to give hackers free reign against those users who don't bother to proxy in?

If you want to give people a tool to identify sock puppets, then hash the IP address.  The same IP address will have the same hash.
sr. member
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Is there a forum software (like simple machines) which has a module that help to identify and remove sock puppets?



I know from my Ban evading Times, that some Sites using a Service like http://dev.maxmind.com/proxy-detection/
but they pay for 1000 Queries, to block known Tor Nodes you don^t have to be an Expert, you just have to dig deeper for Proxy's.

Maybe there are really Search Algo's for this kind of Issues, but they will cost you some Coins.
hero member
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What doesn't kill you only makes you sicker!
what if thread creation was governed?  Should just anybody be able to start a thread?

how about google integrated searches.  I contend the reason people make threads is they cannot find what they seek.

what about a follow feature where you could follow people who you agree with or people you disagree with

or a popularity feature where you could sort responses by 'most agreed with first'
what about being able to sort the responses

are these interesting?

That might limit discussion too much.

The most agreed with sounds like it would need a lot more thinking about like how to age a thread.
hero member
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what if thread creation was governed?  Should just anybody be able to start a thread?

how about google integrated searches.  I contend the reason people make threads is they cannot find what they seek.

what about a follow feature where you could follow people who you agree with or people you disagree with

or a popularity feature where you could sort responses by 'most agreed with first'
what about being able to sort the responses

are these interesting?
hero member
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Don't jump the gun now.  We are not ready to talk about a logo, we don't even know that we need a new website yet.  Let's just keep gathering information at this time.  The first post has been updated with all known ideas to date has it not?  What else should be added/discussed?

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www.DonateMedia.org
Changing the domain name would be a pretty dumb move, People already know bitcointalk is the place to go to talk about bitcoins, As far as the forum software goes i think phpBB would be a nice choice, Really SMF is fine it just needs a new default skin/theme, The default blue theme looks unprofessional and tacky.

I just mentioned the above just because I already have them on tap and did some graphics already, and will just be let go when they expire otherwise, but whatever the domain choice I can provide a hosting solution for it. Though I don't think just making  a "bitcointalk2.org" would be appropriate or respectful either, another board should have a voice and feel of its own.

SMF is what the this board and the Litecoin forum are, it would make sense to make it a familiar platform. The stock templates are terrible but there are many more that are better. This is my SMF for BlockBurner as an example. Or I am sure a competent SMF themer could create something new for a few coin  Smiley

Looks clean but the background should be a darker color like gray or something, The bright white hurts my eyes.

Seems less piercing to me compared to here even (it is actually not a full white, but very light grey), but that can be changed easily. This was based on a theme called "Minimal". I will have another example to show after tonight that was further modified.
hero member
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I have created a new thread specifically to discuss the forum software choice.  


Possible Platforms:  (vote here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-is-the-best-forum-software-available-today-246936)
     -Discourse
     -Xenforo
     -MyBB
     -SMF

sr. member
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Changing the domain name would be a pretty dumb move, People already know bitcointalk is the place to go to talk about bitcoins, As far as the forum software goes i think phpBB would be a nice choice, Really SMF is fine it just needs a new default skin/theme, The default blue theme looks unprofessional and tacky.

I just mentioned the above just because I already have them on tap and did some graphics already, and will just be let go when they expire otherwise, but whatever the domain choice I can provide a hosting solution for it. Though I don't think just making  a "bitcointalk2.org" would be appropriate or respectful either, another board should have a voice and feel of its own.

SMF is what the this board and the Litecoin forum are, it would make sense to make it a familiar platform. The stock templates are terrible but there are many more that are better. This is my SMF for BlockBurner as an example. Or I am sure a competent SMF themer could create something new for a few coin  Smiley

Looks clean but the background should be a darker color like gray or something, The bright white hurts my eyes.
hero member
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www.DonateMedia.org
Changing the domain name would be a pretty dumb move, People already know bitcointalk is the place to go to talk about bitcoins, As far as the forum software goes i think phpBB would be a nice choice, Really SMF is fine it just needs a new default skin/theme, The default blue theme looks unprofessional and tacky.

I just mentioned the above just because I already have them on tap and did some graphics already, and will just be let go when they expire otherwise, but whatever the domain choice I can provide a hosting solution for it. Though I don't think just making  a "bitcointalk2.org" would be appropriate or respectful either, another board should have a voice and feel of its own.

SMF is what the this board and the Litecoin forum are, it would make sense to make it a familiar platform. The stock templates are terrible but there are many more that are better. This is my SMF for BlockBurner as an example. Or I am sure a competent SMF themer could create something new for a few coin  Smiley
sr. member
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Changing the domain name would be a pretty dumb move, People already know bitcointalk is the place to go to talk about bitcoins, As far as the forum software goes i think phpBB would be a nice choice, Really SMF is fine it just needs a new default skin/theme, The default blue theme looks unprofessional and tacky.
hero member
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www.DonateMedia.org
I think the real problem here is:

People are trying to turn Bitcointalk into something it is not.

This is obvious just looking at the Altcoin board. Many calls to break it up into sub forums were denied by the admins, and rightfully so because this isn't an altcoin forum, it is a forum about Bitcoin specifically and should remain as such. Altcoins need to move out of mom and dads basement.

When Bitcoin was the only digital currency at the start, the forum made sense. There was only one coin to mine, one to trade, one to talk about. But this is not the cas e anymore, there is way too much subject matter packed in where it doesn't really belong. Each section of this is simply overgrown, and needs new places to congregate and focus on distinct subjects, or at least diversify into more general coin forums to create smaller communities. Bitcointalk is "too big to fail" and needs to break up Smiley I in no way disrespect Bitcointalk or its operators with these thoughts, but the reality seems to be everyone in the crypto scene is trying to use Bitcointalk as a waystation for everything, and is now hindered by its own weight. Time to branch out and let Bitcointalk just be about Bitcoin itself again.

Bitcointalk.org either needs to evolve itself into something more broad, or face an exodus in the form of new communities branching out.

Though ad revenue and what is done with it can be a thorny subject, the simple matter is hosting isn't free and managing a large board can take a lot of time and effort to the point of being a part time job, I don't see harm in sharing a portion of the revenue as long as bills are paid and forum needs are taken care of first from those funds. But I think a proper donation bin should be enough for the community to support the board and keep it operating without pesky ads all over the place. In the case of BFL it became a big joke for them to still be advertised here a year late with their products with no admin interdiction. The nature of ads is bad to me anyway, if a maker of a product wants attention they should get involved with the community opposed to just paying for a little space and calling it a day.

Rule wise its pretty simple to me: act like an adult and things will be fine. Fail to do that, meet Mr. Banhammer. Another way to do this is not ban, but set up a forum jail as a punishment group for misbehaving, with certain jail time for each offense. 3 strikes and gone kind of thing? Just a thought. But it does seem like here people are allowed to get away with scamming, spamming, trolling, etc entirely too much, some areas of this place are a digital cesspool.


To that, I would be willing to donate the following resources to the project:

VPS hosting package

Graphical design for logos, theme modification, etc.

I could have an SMF installation up and running in about 20 minutes and would happily do this for the community. I would digress direction of this board and setup to the OP as head admin, myself functioning as a back-end admin and forum mod mostly (I have other projects on my plate to which I wouldn't want to be the lead on this). Whatever allocation of donation funds deemed appropriate for hosting costs would be going to me

I'm here to help any way I can, let me know. And if I get banned for this, well, obviously I can go make my own  Cheesy
hero member
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You won't be able to ban sock puppets completely. You can discourage them but rest assured if someone wants to make an anonymous account on your forum and use it as a sock puppet, it will happen. The only thing you can do as a website administrator is make sure you do everything possible by your abilities.
newbie
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Hi,
I am very new to the forum. When we are a part of a community we should love it and try to make it good. Whatever problem occurs we should try to short it out, rather than get out of the community and creating a new one. So if the problem is here, lets solve it here.

If you are trying to create a complete new community, I think we will loose our strength. But if you are trying to create a updated version of this community here I just appreciate you and I will volunteer you.
hero member
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Google Authenticator is probably a solid option for 2FA, though I haven't looked into how it works at all.

Good call.

legendary
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May Bitcoin be touched by his Noodly Appendage
He was making a joke about the fact that you hate +1 .
Ha yeah, indeed!
I don't hate +1s that much Grin

Google Authenticator is probably a solid option for 2FA, though I haven't looked into how it works at all.
It's true I often read people considering it. I never studied this either though.
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