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Topic: Segwit 2x warplan revealed by 2x insider [RED ALERT] - page 2. (Read 702 times)

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==[REPOST FROM REDDIT]==

**** It seems like their plan is already in place with Bcash rising in value !!! Although this could be a mere coincidence !
2X is nothing more than a hostile political takeover of BTC!!!


Turns out Chinese BTC community and reddit community differs a lot.
The article below is a translation of a hot article in 8btc.com. I will try my best to keep its original meaning and, hopefully, help the cross-boarder community to understand each other, better.

Sounds REAL, folks need to understand the ppl in NYC/NYA are the same as the kosher-nostra in Shanghai-China, while BTC may have came out of crypto-anarchy, the RICH CHINA/NYC people have decided to CO-OPT the bitch, and this how you do it by triangulation,

They are absolutely correct, the MOST important thing about BTC is the 'brand', and that is what they want, they can pull BCC, BSEG, or BTG out of their ass forever, but they'll never own the brand unless they steal it or destroy it.

No accident that all the whore houses in ASIA & VEGAS & MACAU & DUBAI are all owned by the same guy, Sheldon Adelson #1 Trump contributor.

No accident that NYA wants to keep controlling money, just like Shanghai control's money in China, and the Whore-House people know that "Dark-Money", secret money is the future of the whore-house business. Where their customers can have privacy.

It's win-win for all and lose-lose for BTC crypto-anarchy libertarians like Satoshi.
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==[REPOST FROM REDDIT]==

**** It seems like their plan is already in place with Bcash rising in value !!! Although this could be a mere coincidence !
2X is nothing more than a hostile political takeover of BTC!!!


Turns out Chinese BTC community and reddit community differs a lot.
The article below is a translation of a hot article in 8btc.com. I will try my best to keep its original meaning and, hopefully, help the cross-boarder community to understand each other, better.

======article starts here====== original link: http://8btc.com/thread-86823-1-1.html written at: 2017-10-26
在一场战斗中,首先要分清敌友,在这场分叉之战中,BCC和2X都是被大区块派支持的,所以他们是盟友;另一方盟友就是Core核心开发小组和BTG所代表的小区块派。但是BTG实在太弱,基本上可以看作是三国演义。
In this battle, we need to first understand the enemys and the friends. During the forking, BCC and 2X are all supported by "larger block" community. So they are allies. On the other hand, the Core and BTG are supporting small block size, so they are on the same side. Because BTG is so weak, we can regard this as "Romance of the Three Kindoms"(a famous Chinese historical fiction)
据说因为BCC和2X都是大区块,会在分叉的时候争夺算力,有人主张舍弃其中之一。因为BCC区块更大,并且2X被大区块支持者所反对的Segwit污染过,大部分大区块支持者认为应该抛弃2X,集中扶持BCC。而且这种选择在调查中表现得非常明显。貌似有理,其实是缺乏想象力。这也说明币圈中短视的人多,有战略远见的人少。我觉得这种人应该把三国演义读十遍。 在一场战争中首先抛弃自己的盟友而独自面对敌人是愚蠢而不可理喻的。而且在这次分叉中。2X才是主角,BCC虽然有很多优势,但还太年轻,先当当配角慢慢成长。 It seems that both BCC and 2X are all for large block size, so they will compete for hashrate, and some suggest to give up one of them. (A long logical reasoning here I don't want to translate.) Any way, 2X is the main actor here.
本次战斗,2X承担着抢夺BTC品牌的重任。而BCC因为已经有了名字,有很多投资者在先前抛掉了BCC。BCC想直接上位树敌太多,难度太大。BCC在一开始就定位为保留中本聪思想的火种,以防NYA没有得到执行。在决战没有失败之前,没有道理先启用备份方案。 In this battle, the goal for 2X is to "seize" the brand for BTC. And since BCC already its name, it's hard for invester to accept it (as BTC). BCC is just a backup, incase NYA is not executed as espected. So there is no reason to use the backup before we lose the battle.
因为夺取BTC品牌。其价值远远大于BCC价格大幅拉升,短期来看,只有1X和2X有资格染指BTC品牌。BCC成功的道路还很漫长。而本次分叉之战,却有毕其功于一役的机会,战略上来说没有道理舍近求远。万一2X方案失败,再启动BCC上位也不迟。本来两场战斗,只胜一场即可。如果预先就放弃其中一次战斗,就降低了一半的大区块理想的成功率。 Seizing the brand of BTC is far more valuable than boosting BCC's price. (To lazy to translate)
当真正分叉的时候,如何避免这两种大区块的算力争夺呢?方案还是有的。 How to prevent BCC and 2X from wasting hashrate during the battle. There are ways.
BCC和2X要分工协作,吸引不同的算力。BCC负责吸引追逐短期挖矿利润的矿工。2X负责活下来并快速出快,并且让1X无法出块或者出快很慢。必要时可以采取一切技术手段。这样就把中间派争取过来了,化敌为友,大大提高了2X胜出的几率 我们可以做个精确的预案. BCC and 2X need to to cooperate: 1) BCC should be in charge of attracting miners who wants short-term profits; while 2) 2X does its best to suvive and create new blocks (and prevent 1X(he mean BTC) from creating new blocks or in a very slow speed). If necessary, we can try any (dirty) technical method (I indicate it as dust attack), to mislead the swinging 3rd party. More details of the plan is as follow:
11.13: Start BCC hard fork, the goal is to change the EDA mining difficulty, so that BCC mining difficulty could be adjust more smoothly.
11.14: Complete BCC hard fork, and keep BCC vs BTC mining difficulty at a low ratio, 0.04-0.07, which makes it easier to boost the BCC price.
11.15: Increase BCC price gradually, so as to attract more peaople mine BCC rather than BTC.
11.16: keep boosting BCC price. (I guess is similar to yesterday, to reduce the hashrate of BTC)
11.17-18: Almost the same as previously. Keep make fewer people mining BTC.
11.19: When 2x hard fork starts. Strongly boosting BCC price, so as to make sure only hardliners remain in BTC. At the same time, apply dust attack on BTC and make sure it's super hard to create new blocks. In extreme case, it might "lost coins". It's almost sure that there would be panic sell at this moment, so that the price of BTC would drops. 2X would also drops, however, its aleady in a low range, and if valued in BTC, its value should increase. The goal is to make mining BTC less profitable.
11.20 and comming week: keep mining 2X, and make sure its insainly slow to mine new BTC blocks. (Assuming the Core switch POW to POS, hard to translate).
11.22 All NYA supporter claim that "We are real BTC." Urging all exchanges to accept 2X as the "Real BTC".
(Words about it might make people confuse about when two groups of people claiming themselves as "real BTC", but it does not matter. This is what BTC should come through, and future is "Bright")
11月13日,BCC启动硬分叉,目标是修改EDA挖矿难度算法,使得BCC挖矿难度的调整更加连续平滑。 14日,BCC硬分差完成。BCC对比BTC的难度系数应该保持在一个较低的水平,0.04-0.07之间比较适合。因为这样拉升价格的成本最低。 15日。在交易市场逐渐拉升BCC的价格。使得挖BCC的利润逐渐高于挖BTC。吸引没有明确立场、单纯逐利的矿工转向挖取BCC。 16日,继续拉升BCC的价格。并加快BCC的挖矿速度,因为出块太快,BCC的挖矿难度系数会增加。如果想吸引这些浮动的矿工,就必须继续拉升BCC的价格,使得挖BCC比挖BTC有更高的利润。留住并吸引更多的矿工来挖BCC。 17-18日继续保持以上策略,并且让矿工、比特币用户、比特币投资者都知晓这样的策略。这样会促进市场加大BCC的买盘。拉升BCC价格的代价会更小。 就是为什么要提前三天拉升BCC价格的原因。因为策略从实施并广为人知需要时间。 19日,从分叉正式开始的时间算起,BCC开始一波强劲的拉升。吸引所有愿意挖BCC的人都不离开,分散算力。结果是只剩下1X和2X的坚定支持算力去各自挖矿。坚定支持大区块的算力,分出其中其中保证BCC的上述策略能够稳步实施。其他的全部算力都去挖2X,同时发动适度强度的粉尘攻击。兵者凶也,谁都不愿意打仗。要打仗就必须要打赢,采取一切有利于赢的策略。不要受道德绑架,比特币不需要道德。比特币需要的是强壮、稳定和快速。 这时候1X出块会非常难,出块速度会很慢,并且可能会出现丢币。市场应该出现恐慌。BT1的价格会急速下滑。BT2的价格当然也会降低。但因为BT2价格本来已经很低,下降的幅度应该有限。如果按照占比特币权重来计算。BT2反而应该明显上升;‌这样,挖2X的矿工的亏损会减少。 算力攻击不需要用力过猛,保证1X出块很慢即可,最重要的是持续足够长的时间。如果有多余的算力,可以拿一部分出来挖BT1,挖出来就在市场上抛,进一步打压BT1的价格。补贴挖2X的损失。 ‌在后面的一个星期或更长的时间内,‌保持1X出块速度很慢,打击1X支持者的信心。比特币在这个期间的使用体验会很差,比特币的总价会持续下跌,其中BT1的部分会下降得更快。这就会‌逼迫Core核心小组更改1X的挖矿算法。如果这种,1X的算法已经完全不兼容以前的矿机。这就导致事实上Core核心小组已经改变了BT1,而这样的改变将使其自动脱离比特币社群的认同。极端情况下,有可能逼迫BT1改为POS. ‌22日,2X稳定出块,并且挖矿难度明显高于1X。而1X出块极其缓慢,挖矿难度明显低于2X,这样已经持续三天了。‌所有坚定支持NYA的矿场和交易所以及其他相关团体正式宣布:根据中本聪主张的难度以及区块高度原则,认定2X是BTC。并敦促所有的交易所支持这个事实。这一步骤必须要有,大区块派在宣传上比起善于社会化营销的Core核心小组要差很多,必须补这一课。 支持1X的群体当然不会认可,所以‌在这个时间段内会引起BTC品牌混淆和账面经济损失。但这是必经的阶段,是因为Core核心小组的固执带给比特币圈不得不承受的痛苦。‌那么,让我们勇敢地承受它。等这一切都结束。比特币的价格会一骑绝尘。‌短时间的损失对老韭菜来说,都不过是家常便饭而已。 最重要的是经过这次战役,‌比特币重新获得了发展的自由。自由之物终归自由。
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