[SELFKEY] ID Wallet for Citizenship, Incorporation, Fintech, Banking, Exchanges - page 36.

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Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 20, 2017, 07:43:07 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 05:05:54 AM

Purely based on that comparison, if Civic has a $190 million market cap just for e-mail and phone verification, Selfkey must be able to get a billion market cap.

absolutely true. and i missed my chance to invest... but due to the recent rise of eth, the bonus of 30% would be more like 5% i think. lets hope for the main sale

I have high hopes on this. Especially since it has more features than Civic and that's done well.

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Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 05:05:54 AM

Purely based on that comparison, if Civic has a $190 million market cap just for e-mail and phone verification, Selfkey must be able to get a billion market cap.

absolutely true. and i missed my chance to invest... but due to the recent rise of eth, the bonus of 30% would be more like 5% i think. lets hope for the main sale

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Quote from: cantdecide on December 20, 2017, 03:42:06 AM

Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

They could probably, but I assume they want to raise a bit more money through an normal ICO too. Nothing wrong with this in my eyes, a lot of ICOs have a pre-sale and normal ICO.

Yes, but they still have time for raising money on pre-sale. And left amount not so big.

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Quote from: cantdecide on December 20, 2017, 07:21:23 AM

Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:20:28 AM

Yes they are. I am no expert on the topic, but after reading their whitepaper and blogs, it seems to me that they are pretty much thinking of everything and also having a more developed product that Civic.

Btw I just found this, a direct comparison between SelfKey and Civic:

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/identity-transunion-services-3944?altdesign=socialux

Thanks for this. As I never looked up into Civic I wasn't even aware that their service is providing just so less of service in the end. Well in this case Selfkey has definitely the better options here.

Yes, a good comparison to sum up the main differences. And it also clearly shows where SelfKey is ahead of Civic.

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Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:20:28 AM

Yes they are. I am no expert on the topic, but after reading their whitepaper and blogs, it seems to me that they are pretty much thinking of everything and also having a more developed product that Civic.

Btw I just found this, a direct comparison between SelfKey and Civic:

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/identity-transunion-services-3944?altdesign=socialux

Thanks for this. As I never looked up into Civic I wasn't even aware that their service is providing just so less of service in the end. Well in this case Selfkey has definitely the better options here.

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Quote from: safariwave on December 20, 2017, 07:10:41 AM

Quote from: Piggy on December 20, 2017, 06:51:29 AM

Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

Presale had 30% bonus, next sale will be less

So far, I think it's a good sales structure and investors will be successfully compensated when the project will take off.

Script really really well designed, and Time has worked to present the best, even in the Pre sale, this shows that we will have a very busy public sale, it will be necessary to be fast, we already know the interest of the People. Seeing new partnerships arise during Ico would also contribute a lot to the next step

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Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 05:05:54 AM

Purely based on that comparison, if Civic has a $190 million market cap just for e-mail and phone verification, Selfkey must be able to get a billion market cap.

I find all marketcaps in crypto quite unreasonable.

They should be way higher!

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Quote from: Piggy on December 20, 2017, 06:51:29 AM

Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

Presale had 30% bonus, next sale will be less

So far, I think it's a good sales structure and investors will be successfully compensated when the project will take off.

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Quote from: premium_domainer on December 20, 2017, 06:50:32 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 06:08:41 AM

Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:03:23 AM

It has already been mentioned many times, but again:

CIVIC is a mere Email and Phone verifier,
SelfKey is ID

I have looked some more into Civic, maybe you overlooked something but I do not think that is not a fair comparison.

If someone only wants to know your e-mail and phone number, then you need to only verify those. But if more personal info is requested, for example when opening a bank account, you can scan your passport into Civic or link a 3rd party Identity Partner, as Civic calls them, such as a government agency. Or as SelfKey calls them, a Certifier.

Civic

https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59428358648ba950e3b4bb88/59428358648ba950e3b4bdef_civic-architecture.png

SelfKey

https://crushcrypto.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/KEY-flowchart.jpg

So civic isn't just phone and email verifier. Still, I think the most important part of selfkey is you don't need to do kyc over and over again. They are currently the only project presenting this feature.

Once your personal data is stored you do not need to verify it again, I think that is the main idea behind all blockchain ID platforms.

Civic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XDGX41nr1o

SelfKey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDFEaGBuAys

But SelfKey has a lot of partners through the company behind it, KYC Chain.

KYC Chain has been working with established and reputable companies including Standard Chartered Bank, a British bank with operations in over 70 countries and 87,000 employees, NTL immigration, immigration agency since 1994, Gatecoin, a Hong Kong-based cryptocurrency exchange, Lykke, Kyber, AirSwap, Polymath, ZILLA, Malabar.ai, TitanFx, Gatcoin, DollarSmart, and more.

In a blog post, SelfKey also listed other companies that are currently in discussion or are working with KYC Chain: tier 1 global banks, tier 1 global law firms, 3 large immigration firms (NTL Trust, Global Advisory Group, Vanuatu Information Center), a luxury services company, various legal service providers, one of China’s largest travel companies, the largest travel technology company in the world, various governments, notary publics, global compliance firms, and major bitcoin exchanges.

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Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

Presale had 30% bonus, next sale will be less

premium_domainer

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Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 06:08:41 AM

Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:03:23 AM

It has already been mentioned many times, but again:

CIVIC is a mere Email and Phone verifier,
SelfKey is ID

I have looked some more into Civic, maybe you overlooked something but I do not think that is not a fair comparison.

If someone only wants to know your e-mail and phone number, then you need to only verify those. But if more personal info is requested, for example when opening a bank account, you can scan your passport into Civic or link a 3rd party Identity Partner, as Civic calls them, such as a government agency. Or as SelfKey calls them, a Certifier.

Civic

https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59428358648ba950e3b4bb88/59428358648ba950e3b4bdef_civic-architecture.png

SelfKey

https://crushcrypto.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/KEY-flowchart.jpg

So civic isn't just phone and email verifier. Still, I think the most important part of selfkey is you don't need to do kyc over and over again. They are currently the only project presenting this feature.

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I can say that this project is really great but of course there's some entity/server that is still holding your identity where your data is stored. Am I thinking wrong with this?

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Quote from: lobat999 on December 20, 2017, 06:39:37 AM

Quote from: MandatoryOption on December 20, 2017, 06:27:41 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on December 20, 2017, 03:42:06 AM

Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

They could probably, but I assume they want to raise a bit more money through an normal ICO too. Nothing wrong with this in my eyes, a lot of ICOs have a pre-sale and normal ICO.

For everyone who managed to get tokens during the pre-sale, the cap is nice. This way they can already profit from their pre-sale bonus.

It was a nice pre-sale and I'm confident the token sale will do good as well considering the importance of this project.

yeah, by looking at the presale results seems like ICO will sell out in a few minutes.

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Quote from: matjas on December 20, 2017, 04:49:54 AM

Quote from: Cauchy on December 20, 2017, 04:43:48 AM

Pre-ICO is sold out, great work team!

Four days before the scheduled end, that's totally awesome. I hope the public sale will be as successful. I just wish it would start right now, so we don't have to wait till January 15 to invest.

great, only few days and token has sold out.

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Quote from: cantdecide on December 20, 2017, 03:42:06 AM

Quote from: magisterr on December 20, 2017, 03:19:24 AM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 06:45:36 PM

Quote from: SEELE^^01 on December 19, 2017, 05:45:46 PM

Quote from: Rigorous on December 19, 2017, 05:37:19 PM

Quote from: DominickA86 on December 19, 2017, 05:24:37 PM

For how long will the ico last?

The pre-sale ends on 24 December. The public sale is from 15 January to February 1st.

but what if all the tokens are sold before? will the normal sale start immediately?

and well 1000$ are just like 1.3 eth now

not that big amount to contribute imo

The pre-sales is capped, but yes, most of the tokens have been sold already. Does not leave many tokens for the actual token sale January.

$14,842,657 sold
$15,840,000 pre-sale cap
$21,780,000 token sale cap

Why they have cap for pre-sale? They can raise all money on pre-sale I think Huh

They could probably, but I assume they want to raise a bit more money through an normal ICO too. Nothing wrong with this in my eyes, a lot of ICOs have a pre-sale and normal ICO.

For everyone who managed to get tokens during the pre-sale, the cap is nice. This way they can already profit from their pre-sale bonus.

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Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:03:23 AM

It has already been mentioned many times, but again:

CIVIC is a mere Email and Phone verifier,
SelfKey is ID

I have looked some more into Civic, maybe you overlooked something but I do not think that is not a fair comparison.

If someone only wants to know your e-mail and phone number, then you need to only verify those. But if more personal info is requested, for example when opening a bank account, you can scan your passport into Civic or link a 3rd party Identity Partner, as Civic calls them, such as a government agency. Or as SelfKey calls them, a Certifier.

Civic

https://daks2k3a4ib2z.cloudfront.net/59428358648ba950e3b4bb88/59428358648ba950e3b4bdef_civic-architecture.png

SelfKey

https://crushcrypto.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/KEY-flowchart.jpg

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Quote from: Rigorous on December 20, 2017, 05:05:54 AM

Purely based on that comparison, if Civic has a $190 million market cap just for e-mail and phone verification, Selfkey must be able to get a billion market cap.

It's strange. Why is this value attached to e-mail, telephone, that the capitalization of 190 million ... And if still personal documents, then a billion. Then Datum will also have a capitalization of one billion?

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Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:20:28 AM

Quote from: pynetx on December 20, 2017, 12:08:25 AM

Quote from: CryptoConan on December 20, 2017, 12:03:23 AM

Quote from: Bolovich on December 19, 2017, 05:22:34 PM

Quote from: cmg12 on December 19, 2017, 05:14:44 PM

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Quote from: Cauchy on December 19, 2017, 03:00:50 PM

Quote from: weekofcrypto on December 19, 2017, 02:58:16 PM

Quote from: haxllega on December 19, 2017, 02:46:44 PM

Civic offers something that sounds a little like this project and they already have a working product. Will be a tough competition between the two of them.

Haha, even if both platforms are great, there's plenty of room for each of them. Bitcoin is already the most popular cryptocurrency, why have another one right?

They are similar at a glance but when you look more into detail you will see that selfkey is using a more refined and granular approach.

Agreed. I like self key quite a bit, I think its a good point that 2 similar projects can easily co-exist. There's enough marketcap space

Yes, there is more than enough space for this project and competition is always welcome

The fact that there is already another product in use is going to make the team have to work harder to improve the product if they want to stand out.

It has already been mentioned many times, but again:

CIVIC is a mere Email and Phone verifier,
SelfKey is ID

Hope this article helps you gaining some insight

https://blog.selfkey.org/what-makes-selfkey-different-from-its-competitors-ad58e74f4984

Goo to hear the difference. So, Selfkey will be an all in one platform, right?

Yes they are. I am no expert on the topic, but after reading their whitepaper and blogs, it seems to me that they are pretty much thinking of everything and also having a more developed product that Civic.

Btw I just found this, a direct comparison between SelfKey and Civic:

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/identity-transunion-services-3944?altdesign=socialux

Thank you for the article! I understood for myself the key factors of the difference between these companies. If SelfKey realizes everything conceived, it will surpass its competitors.

Rigorous

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Purely based on that comparison, if Civic has a $190 million market cap just for e-mail and phone verification, Selfkey must be able to get a billion market cap.

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Quote from: matjas on December 20, 2017, 04:49:54 AM

Quote from: Cauchy on December 20, 2017, 04:43:48 AM

Pre-ICO is sold out, great work team!

Four days before the scheduled end, that's totally awesome. I hope the public sale will be as successful. I just wish it would start right now, so we don't have to wait till January 15 to invest.

I wish the team can move forward the schedule. earlier crowdsale, earlier exchange.

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