Topic: Sell your BTC for Moneypak +5% bonus through FacebookChat or Torchat - Learn How - page 25. (Read 71491 times)

BCB told GD/MP/PP that the MP was a gift.
Thus supporting the theory that it is possible to have a reversal if the recipient tells the company they don't own the MP.

Bottom line for customers - don't say it's not your MP or it might get reversed.

I just proved you wrong by my test with BCB.  He just said that he got contacted by PayPal and that they said that there was a claim by MP.

SO, it CAN be reversed.

Problem solved.

Exactly, having the receipt would be the difference between keeping the account open and having it closed with a check mailed to you.

In this example, it happened just like MoneypakTrader said it would.  He didn't have a receipt, and they closed his account and mailed him a check (although he did have to escalate to a supervisor).

It looks to me like there is no chance you would actually lose the money that was loaded on your card if you say it is your moneypak.  The worst case scenario would be having to sue in small claims court.  In LA county, it costs $30 to sue for up to $1500 worth of damages.  The card issuer would always just mail out a check instead of paying a lawyer to show up.  An "intent to sue" letter on some law office letterhead would get the job done too.

Confused... didn't think you could reload any debit card in the world with a moneypak

One example:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-to-people-who-use-moneypakwalmart-money-card-89182

Has anyone provided the receipt to GD and had their account closed or kept open? that would be good to know.
If you say you didn't buy the mp at the store, that's the one way it might be reversed.
Link is about a person who loaded questionable MP and did NOT have it reversed, nice try though, keep looking. also about people who give codes away and can NOT get the money back.
Go Away Jerky

Look harder.  Maybe at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1260707.  Maybe the 10 people in IRC that disputed it (Ssateneth, GlooBoy, sturles, etc.).

He is selling MP that he obtained through SR. There is a risk that Greendot will question the origin of the MP and close the account of the person who loads the funds.

I have asked around and could not find anyone who could dispute his claim that a moneypak cannot get reversed after declaring ownership.  I also have not found any evidence that having the receipt can stop an account from getting closed.  Perhaps more people will comment on this

wait, MP are reversible? Only if the recipient tells the card company it wasn't their money that got loaded.
If someone would please link to a credible MP reversal story people might stop believing what's written on MP front page "if someone gets your code, the money is gone!"

SCAMMER
This guy has been making shit up about how "MoneyPak's aren't reversible because I say so."

He's the shadiest idiot in the world, and is obviously laundering money for his SR business.

ANYONE WHO PARTICIPATES IN THIS BUSINESS IS A CRIMINAL ACCOMPLICE.  DO NOT DO ANY BUSINESS WITH THIS PERSON.

Your accusation is baseless. I don't accept stolen funds for this business, only first time purchasers of MP's are allowed to sell them to me. If I suspect a client of using other people's MP, they are not allowed to invest.
If you have any evidence of someone going to jail (or even being prosecuted) for this type of activity, please share. Otherwise your unresearched opinion is most unwelcome.
The funds are from legitimate btc investors whose best option of remaining anonymous in buying btc is using MPs.
Rather than centralize the profits, my business plan is to distribute them among the investors.

Sadly it will work.  The siren's call of 8% "no risk" free money is too strong.

So basically the OP is trying to recruit idiots to help him launder stolen funds. This is precisely the sort of thing we don't want around here.

Just loaded someone's halogen debit card, it's not on the list but seemed to work fine for receiving $$$.

We used SR for escrowing services before getting the website operational because we're not comfortable using escrow agencies that openly contributes taxes or donations to violent oppression of people (domestic or abroad) and SR seems the most moral of the bitcoin escrow agencies (by clearly disclosing their non-participation in violence against others and non-support of entities that do so).

SR has such a well-developed feedback and escrow system, they were also a pragmatic choice of low-capital business development.

The SR profile "freemoney" shows we're the same entity running moneypaktrader.com

Now that we're transitioning to moneypaktrader.com there's no need to use SR for escrow or otherwise unless you want to support their website/business.

Sorry, that's not proof. I could make a screenshot image that shows me as being Dread Pirate Roberts with an account balance of BTC90,000,000.

If you posted a public GPG key in your Silk Road profile, and signed a message here with that same key, it would prove that you control both accounts.

We have extensive feedback in the Money categories on SR under the username "freemoney". SR provides a morally responsible way to provide goods/services for BTC without funding violent and repressive regimes through coerced taxation or bribes. We endorse SR 100% despite only using them for escrowing our transactions of USD-BTC with customers who still want escrow.
Claimed and proven:

Image Without the ads: http://s7.postimage.org/frk56keu3/SRName.gif
We encourage people to look at our profile and feedback on SR to get an idea of how users feel about our services. Of course there is clear evidence of our mutual ownership of moneypaktrader.com in the profile and listings. So, we're saying it here, we're saying it there, encrypting the messages will not change the sources or reliability. It would only add complexity and potential confusion.

True, we're not using any cred from OTC, that's just somewhere for future reviews ATM. We've found the ops on otc to be bigoted against friends of sinners such as us, while they lack any ability to rationally discuss our business and how it would enhance the otc community. We have no plans to expand into the otc market atm due to these bigots that control the market there.
If/when Greg Maxwell and/or other responsible bigots that are entrenched there die or otherwise change their oppressive actions, we may reevaluate this position.

In summary, there are plenty of reviews on here, SR, and OTC that confirm we're a legitimate trading enterprise that allows easily and quickly trading BTC and USD/MPs.
We've held hundreds of btc at once in trust for customers, but the best policy for anyone is to only trust others (banks/exchanges/friends/websites) with the amount of value you can reasonably afford to lose.
So, in summary, the best bet is probably just do a week at a time with trades of lower values (~$500), rather than putting in $5000 of btc all at once as some of our customers do.

google search $200 MP
You now know as much as we do.

You indicated that there was a high risk of fraud with $200 moneypaks.  How is this fraud perpetrated?