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Topic: Sending eth/token without fee? (Read 488 times)

newbie
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August 23, 2018, 09:01:22 AM
#50
sending eth/token must have gas applied even in small amount.
full member
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Merit: 101
August 23, 2018, 07:49:17 AM
#49
Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

I think it is not zero fee transactions, maybe it is near zero fee transactions. If it is really possible to make transactions without fee, why it is not able to make free transactions for everyone?

member
Activity: 168
Merit: 10
August 23, 2018, 06:48:09 AM
#48
I support the thought about necessity of fee, it will be rhight decision to get it because we have to control the money and it will help to do it totally.
jr. member
Activity: 121
Merit: 1
August 16, 2018, 02:48:01 AM
#47
Fee is the significant element in crypto and I think it will be better to have it than not to have it. It is like a small insurance for me to be honest.
member
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August 11, 2018, 05:26:48 PM
#46
I have not yet met such an exchange on which it would be possible to conduct transactions without commission. I myself would like to find and try it)
full member
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Merit: 100
August 11, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
#45
Sending eth/token without fee can be done with "Honeypot." But sending and receiving ETH does not cost a great deal to be fraudulent because the cost of sending is very unreasonable. I have searched on Google with the keyword Honeypot is known that this is a fraudulent scheme to steal the private key from the investor e-wallet.
member
Activity: 742
Merit: 12
August 11, 2018, 05:17:21 PM
#44
Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.
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0x878acd6f359e0d05352eafaf137825da6ff21ba8037b2ebcb6bc7c83f11abd23

You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!

Ow.. I have learned this today. I'll try this if I feel the network is not so heavy, but that probably wont happen.
member
Activity: 230
Merit: 14
August 11, 2018, 05:12:53 PM
#43
Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

The first question is why would you want to send a feeless transaction, there is always the posibility of making the gas even less than one wei, it should be far safer.
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 10
August 11, 2018, 05:07:37 PM
#42
Please has anyone else tried sending the tokens without any fees? I will like to learn how to do just that because I have some airdrop tokens that worth almost the gas price that I want to offload. I have tried sending with lower gas fee in the past, it didn't went through

Fees is mandatory because transactions from cryptocurrency are all made of black chain, cryptocurrency mining is profitable because of the fees so you cannot send any coins without paying fee's.
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
August 11, 2018, 04:53:07 PM
#41
Please has anyone else tried sending the tokens without any fees? I will like to learn how to do just that because I have some airdrop tokens that worth almost the gas price that I want to offload. I have tried sending with lower gas fee in the past, it didn't went through
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
August 10, 2018, 08:27:51 PM
#40
Yes, it is possible to do a transaction without the fees with the help of honeypot. But that is only possible if the traffic is low. As much as I know, it's not possible at all.
newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
August 10, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
#39
Seriously, this is the first i am hearing that it is even thinking to send tokens in ethereum network without fees, I thought it is only neo that has such feature, I have never witnessed it before in ethereum network and i don't think it is doable.
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 10
better Days Ahead...
August 09, 2018, 04:31:01 PM
#38
I don't think it is possible to send tokens without fee, ethereum network requires gas fee to send transactions, and because of the high congestion on the network, miners might ignore transactions with low or no gas fee
newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
August 08, 2018, 04:51:53 PM
#37
Maybe you could do that in the past, but I don't think such a thing is possible these days, I don't think you can send tokens on ethereum network free of charge , I know you can do that on NEO network but not on ethereum.
newbie
Activity: 154
Merit: 0
August 08, 2018, 09:39:05 AM
#36
Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

I don't know it's possible or not. I have tried to send with "low fee" by reducing gas prices, but transactions are often not confirmed and successful. And if it succeeds, it takes a long time to send ETH.
newbie
Activity: 140
Merit: 0
August 08, 2018, 09:35:23 AM
#35
These days with the market bear happening, I don't think it is possible to obtain that kind of transaction any more, you can make transaction free on the NEO network, but not one ethereum network, gas is required for that.
member
Activity: 742
Merit: 11
August 08, 2018, 07:24:02 AM
#34
I've never send Eth/Token without fee because you have to pay  the gas price. Sometimes, it's very congested  that I have to increase my gas price to make the transaction go through. First time to hear Honeypot, is it safe?
member
Activity: 448
Merit: 12
August 08, 2018, 07:04:29 AM
#33
Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.
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0x878acd6f359e0d05352eafaf137825da6ff21ba8037b2ebcb6bc7c83f11abd23

You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!
Thank you for your suggestion, although I usually do not have too much trading volume, but I think the handling fee is a expenditure worth paying attention to!
full member
Activity: 1829
Merit: 134
Moderator
August 08, 2018, 07:02:56 AM
#32
Thank you very much for your information. It is very helpful for me.

With pleasure! Ethereum is very interesting to learn, I'm serious! I just tried to make a token on ropsten and might try the post on github later.
It's could be hard these days to send transaction with 0.1 gwei,

Few days before, gas price was very low (0.9-1.1 Gwei ~) and ethgas gave information that the miner received no lowest than 0.1 gwei. So it possible but will be very long to be confirmed (maybe 1 day?), Who knows Roll Eyes
If anyone know legitimate info, I would like to be enlightened.

You can see here 0x627306090abab3a6e1400e9345bc60c78a8bef57, I tried sending from 0.0001 ETH to 0.00004 ETH to the honeypot address About 10 times.

At 0.00004 there is an interval of about 10 minutes because it looks like the script / bot does not send eth at that value (I've tried it)but after 10 minutes the script / bot send that eth and try it about 3-5 times at this value (I send with 1.5 Gwei + 24000 GAS). Sorry for my bad englsih anyway.
newbie
Activity: 182
Merit: 0
August 07, 2018, 05:51:10 PM
#31
Token honeypot is very famous for the "ETH" scam what I can remember. People send shared private key of honeypot tokens and they gets cheated by the scam to transfer gas for transaction. Honeypot, as far as I know does not support zero fee transactions. If anyone know legitimate info, I would like to be enlightened.
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