Sending eth/token without fee? - page 2.

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Quote from: dhemasm on August 04, 2018, 02:18:02 PM

Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.

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0x878acd6f359e0d05352eafaf137825da6ff21ba8037b2ebcb6bc7c83f11abd23

You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!

It's could be hard these days to send transaction with 0.1 gwei, if it manages to go through, it might take days for the transactions to be confirmed, for me I don't think it is wrong to send your tokens and pay less than a dollars for the transfer fees, after-all exchanges charges higher for their withdrawal

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Quote from: dhemasm on August 04, 2018, 02:18:02 PM

Yes That is possible, If the network is not too full like today. It's just not completely zero fee transactions, you can check here https://etherscan.io/tx/0x17224490348c17eb3bf7f17679f7b42b021b1ff9361b0670eccb24383f54f507 And the blog about zero fee here https://blog.ethlend.io/how-to-make-transaction-on-ethereum-network-with-0-5f5dedac872b

On this website https://ethgasstation.info/ you can see how many gas are recommended and also how much lowest gas is mined by the miner (currently around 0.1 gwei) But the chance for confirmation is very low.

Now for token, Actually I am still learning and don't really understand yet but i think that is also possible unfortunately I haven't found a way. You can see this transaction hash, he sent with 0 fees and i think depending on the token structure itself.

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0x878acd6f359e0d05352eafaf137825da6ff21ba8037b2ebcb6bc7c83f11abd23

You can read here for the smart contract: https://www.coindesk.com/information/ethereum-smart-contracts-work/
And here for erc-20 https://www.investopedia.com/news/what-erc20-and-what-does-it-mean-ethereum/

Last thing, you can try reading the discussion about ERC865. So this will implement pay fee with tokens rather than eth, check here:
https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/865

Ethereum is very interesting to learn, Trust me and Good luck!!

Thank you very much for your information. It is very helpful for me. I have just learned about sending ETH and Tokens, and trying with lowest the fees but haven't find the way to do it. Ethereum is really interesting but it's also difficult to understand. I hope I can find the solution soon. One more time, thanks and good luck to you.

oseikuf44

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When the network is not much congested then the fees of transaction will reduce but to send it without a fee is not possible since from my experience even transactions that couldn't goes through still attract gas prices.

Prime20

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I'm here to learn and to be sincere with myself, I learnt so many things I did not believe could be possible. Kudos to the op for bringing this issue and many thanks to those I that did justice to the question.

cryptodrumz

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I doubt it if it could be possible to send ETH or any other token and boycott the transaction fee. I would not use until I can see evidences of it being genuine. For now I am using the normal wallet that charges me for transaction fees. I use these two wallets mostly for day to day transfer of tokens as they are more trusted, reliable and easy to use :
ImToken
CoinOmi

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Quote from: jacee on August 06, 2018, 03:59:33 PM

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So erc 827 is a continuation of ECR 825? Anyway thanks for the information, I see the github is still open and this is very interesting.

I'm really curious about this, See this honeypot address 0x627306090abab3a6e1400e9345bc60c78a8bef57 There is a 400k Contentbox token or around $10k USD. It's really very interesting if ERC 827 can be used in the coming project or i hope eth have feature like Bitcoin CPFP feature (Although it seems impossible to happen). Maybe I'm naive but who doesn't want free $10k USD Grin

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taylorsara

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So far I know it is possible to not pay fees for transaction with Ethereum. Though I do not properly make out this entire thing so I just shared what u know. You better do some legit research regarding this.

kayakcrypto9875

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Ethereum tokens can be send without fees but that solely depends on the network traffic. However, you'll need a certain amount of gas to do so. You can also find various articles on Medium, Reddit which has detailed information of the full process.

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Is it possible? but someone said that this is possible to do that but I never know this can be done or not.But we can our bitcoins without any fee between two coinbase accounts this is the trick I know until,if anyone don't know this just try it.

ShutterTeeth

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Yes, you can avail this opportunity. Investors can transact without fees wi the assistance of the honeypot. But you cannot take such benefits all the time. It is possible when there is low traffic

angelfaria

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i understand it sounds bit odd and impossible but the truth is it is actually possible now, the authority has published this facility for the users. but still is hasn't earn much popularity among the users that is why most of the people are still not conscious about it.

blackrain321

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Yeah it is possible to send eth free if the network is not full. You can send token free.

worldtraveller505

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Yes this is quite possible. Based on the daily transactions you'll get zero or discount on transaction fees. Someone has already mentioned the process. Hopefully you got it.

harrybell

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I think it might be like this. But I could not find it yet. If ETH can be traded without a fee, it would be a very good step. It's a lot of potential and secure. It's future is much better.

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Quote from: MakiHasegawa on August 04, 2018, 11:25:19 AM

Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

I think sending ETH/token without fee is very much possible because I have experienced such a situation in one of the projects called Nexty; this is a project that can make instant transfer without fee through the blockchain technology. Check it here: https://Nexty.io

MakiHasegawa

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Quote from: jacee on August 06, 2018, 03:59:33 PM

I've searched for this ERC-825 and it turns out that this is a real thing and it's a project of bitclave.
You guys can read more about it here: https://medium.com/bitclave/do-not-pay-transaction-fees-in-ethereum-21a9dccaaf63

Their github discussions: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/827

According to there, it is still unsafe and not suitable for use.

Hmmm.. I see so this seems to have been tested on ropsten or other testnet, but can't be used publicly yet? I'm still learning about this erc after the post above and I'm very interested about this. Shocked

For others post, I'm sorry I can't reply one by one.

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Quote from: MakiHasegawa on August 06, 2018, 03:31:49 PM

Quote from: santiPOGI on August 06, 2018, 02:32:10 PM

what is the difference with erc20 to erc865?

all i know sending transaction without any fee is for the airdrop you just need to send nothing with no gas on their address.
hmm seems like i need to research more for this.

After I read on github, with ERC-825 we can send tokens but use the token as a fee. I'm also interested in this

I've searched for this ERC-825 and it turns out that this is a real thing and it's a project of bitclave.
You guys can read more about it here: https://medium.com/bitclave/do-not-pay-transaction-fees-in-ethereum-21a9dccaaf63

Their github discussions: https://github.com/ethereum/EIPs/issues/827

According to there, it is still unsafe and not suitable for use.

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I do not think that is possible because eth network is based on transaction fee and gas, while it is possible to reduce the cost by lowering gas but do remeber that it can increase the time for the transfer to complete.

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Quote from: MakiHasegawa on August 04, 2018, 11:25:19 AM

Send eth / token without fee is it possible? After several times I saw the "Honeypot" address and there were several transactions sent without fees but succeeded, was that possible or did anyone know how?

Nah, just another nonsensical rumor. Eth transactions and contract executions always carry a fee, even if sometimes it can be really tiny for a cheap gas price.

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Quote from: santiPOGI on August 06, 2018, 02:32:10 PM

what is the difference with erc20 to erc865?

all i know sending transaction without any fee is for the airdrop you just need to send nothing with no gas on their address.
hmm seems like i need to research more for this.

After I read on github, with ERC-825 we can send tokens but use the token as a fee. I'm also interested in this

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