Topic: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers (Read 532 times)

You're on the internet so you should be expecting every form of treatment, people here don't know you so they mightn't know how sensitive you're to words and treated everybody like the way the expect to be treated. While people use harsh words, don't forget they're trying to correct you so they're not actually doing you any harm but good. People response to harsh words more than calm words as they won't want to experience same feeling again so they try to better whatever they were doing wrong. It's also frustrating for the senior members because they get to correct newbies constantly for the same mistakes they keep making so you expect them to have some outburst sometimes by do understand that everything been done here when it comes to corrections is done for your own good so you don't get banned from the forum.


Some accounts are just trolls and they won't change, some accounts can only change in harsh conditions while others can change in the condition that you explained. We can't all be showing same emotions. Things need to be balance and for that to happen we need both the calm condition and the harsh conditions for the newbies, they'll learn form both condition. If you go easy on some newbies they mightn't take corrections and continue in their ways and become a nuisance to the forum. Just imagine if plagiarism wasn't punishable by permanent ban, many newbies won't have been taking it seriously and would have been plagiarizing contents but because they know the harsh consequences, most of them avoid breaking that law.

The more reason I don't ever act harsh or feel superior  above anyone is the fact that no one made it to the top suddenly and everyone grew from the rank of a newbie to any rank they must have attained and since i also know how much effort it takes to grow on the forum, I always do my best to make corrections with love new members and as well encourage them never to give up.

I once spoke about something very similar  to this in my local board can't find a link now, and I also pleaded with higher ranked members to try their best to encourage new members as writing isn't an easy job and most times, a kind word of encouragement can boost the morales and ignite more passion in a struggling user.
I support your motion op.

Your position is correct: new users show a lack of quality in most people's posts, and some of them are just beginning to learn jurisprudence, so we should not react rudely or harshly to it. Obviously, not everyone is a scholar in the crypto space. Everyone has a lack of knowledge in the beginning, but gradually learns knowledge from amusement to legend. So, for the sake of others and for myself, I do not like that he lowers the passion and morale of the newbies with bad manners and a bad temper.

This second point is for the newbies; gentleness also means that your heart should do whatever it wants—rules, volition, etc. Each person should review the rules before taking any steps in his or her case. Moreover, the purpose of big members is not to criticize you, but to convince you that there will be no problems for you later. And yes, if you call forum rules strict, then friends, don't be confused; this forum is not for you, but you should go to a place to learn knowledge where there are rules and regulations of your choice. And if it is to be followed here, the forum rules should be understood as an academic circle based on principles rather than strictness.

Sometimes being hard on some people is the best way they can learn something new. On a normal in a public platform such as this, one should know that there are lots of people with different ideology, orientation and perspective as well so one should not always expect response to always be in tandem with their services or activities here. Definitely there must be some critics here who feels what you have done is not good enough to be be a good one but rather you putting more efforts while some would applaud and appreciate your efforts. What is expected of one as a poster is to look into the criticism and take possible observations and work on it to build your capacity. There you are doing more good to yourself by acquiring more knowledge as a result of the criticism.

Lastly, there are people who do not learn soft but rather in the hard way. They only take corrections when people are hard on them. So therefore if such people exist here I believe they would find here very interesting and educative.

One thing I will advice you is never to take anything in the forum personal,  if you let everything to affect your emotions it will really disturb you and put fear in you not to participate well in the forum. The truth is that you will be corrected in the forum when doing things in the wrong way. And I believe if things are done in the wrong way nobody will correct you in the way you may not like. I will tell you again just try your best to overlook whatever that will make you feel bad, don't expect everyone to be kind to you.

You are right in there. Constructive criticism does not mean that people should treat you with a soft hand,   either it’s a positive or negative comment for you, as long as it’s helpful for your growth and development in the forum, that’s already a constructive judgement. Otherwise, if you expect people to be always kind to you and please you as you want, you will never grow and learn from the forum. Sometimes, people need to be tough on you so you can learn your lesson the most effective way.

I can actually relate to this post and commend the OP for speaking up for someone like me who'd not have been able to say this. Thanks!
But one thing I am glad about is that although I've faced toughness here from many high rank users but I actually paid attention to their 'abuse' or scoldings and I ensured that in my next reply or post I avoided those faults that characterized my previous post that made them talk me down. So, I'd say to newbies facing such to actually change their mindset and take each of those stones thrown at them for wrong replies or post as a building block for attaining higher rank in due time rather than going into their shells to learn nothing or fighting back by replying abusively.
Summarily, high ranked users guilty of this should pipe down by reducing the abusive words and the victims of these should learn from it and build knowledge (like I've been doing so far).
Simply put anyone who's found using of harsh comments is guilty of trolling and that's a breach in the forum rule, so the user will face the required consequences. As given in:
Bitcointalk rules

The rude behavior of experienced or senior members of this forum depends on the activities of the newbies. I noticed many newbies repeat the same mistake again and again in this forum. They just come to create a topic and tell something it ok it's good that they are interacting with the forum but why they don't look to the other thread or other sections? For example, a newbie asking a question the same as the other newbies asked the same question in another section or thread. So according to me why they are not taking a look at the other threads before creating the thread? Also, they are going to merits without making quality posts. You are a newbie you came here a while ago so how do you want merits on your first post, It is right for some newbies but their post quality is mind-blowing.
In response to this, our experienced members use some harsh behavior just for the betterment of the newbie. They know that their harsh application will affect him and maybe he start working as the forum needs. Also, this is an online system you can't expect anyone to be nice and everyone has their own style of talking or telling.

everyone deserves a chance, everyone deserves a chance but not everyone deserves to be on this forum (I mean those who only intend to pollute this forum), I really welcome new members, but sometimes what I see is that new members seem trivial about this forum, especially with the posts they make, many even make plagiarized posts just to attract attention. Seniority is not enforced here, if you are friendly, follow every rule obediently then the other members will support you.

I don't think that old and experienced members are harsh in dealing with the newbies. If they got criticized in their posts, probably newbies deserve that because they won't be learning in the first place if these experienced members will be very easy and ride their newbies sentiments. You should know that learning in the forum is never as easy as you think, and these old members are just molding these newbies so they will be brave and be more consistent in developing their own knowledge and attitude in the forum. Otherwise, they won't stand the highly unpredictable events that will suddenly hit the crypto market.

If newbies really do want to learn about cryptocurrency and other related information then they won't be criticized like that or experienced forum members won't post harsh replies unless the aim of a newbie is to farm merit then yes that will surely happen. There are some newbies who are introduced to this forum where the person who taught them about the forum is to join bounties which many forum member doesn't like.

I don't see experienced or long time members that are harsh to the newbies. In fact, most of the old members here are happy to reply and help you with your questions. Maybe you just feel or think that the reply was harsh but that's not the intention of the reply to you.
It's just that you're sensitive or maybe like that. If you truly think that member has been so harsh to you, then just be it and accept everyone's differences. But no offense to that and appreciate the help that's given to you. We're all in a community that's helping each other to learn more and something new. Anyway, we're in a forum where you really can't control others in terms of how they express themselves just like you so be kind starting from you and to others and always understand one another.

The majority of newcomers here will likely feel discouraged even though you make a valid point, because higher level members use harsh and abusive language against them because they are reluctant to learn. Since we newcomers are essentially newborns in this place, we should constantly view those critical remarks as both a challenge and motivation to carry on with our studies and eventually let everything fade into memory.

We are all kind to one another in this forum, but it just depends on how new members come across because most new members don't learn from their mistakes and will continue to repeat the same errors. We should all remember that whenever we move to a new location, we will encounter many challenges from many different people. We should keep in mind that whatever we come across, we are going to face it.

I believe we are more polite than each other, but we all behave differently depending on how we perceive a newbie's appearance. Regardless, if a newbie makes a mistake on this forum, they must be corrected because high rankers are doing this to help them get better and protect their accounts from moderators, we can't be complaining over people that trying to correct us from our mistakes.

I can excuse the first part in your comment – low quality, especially when I perceive that it's not intentional on the part of the newbie. I take it as may be it's a case of their best not being good enough. The second part – lack of willingness to learn, pisses me off (and I guess, it's so for others too). That one is a grave iniquity by my books. So, if any newbie is getting bashed for the second part; they deserve it. This forum shouldn't be seen as a place of nonchalance, redundancy and complacency. If it ever got to that point, here won't be a treasure and fountain of knowledge it's now. Newbies who are serious with seeking knowledge here don't get unnecessary criticism and bashing. I'm yet to see any of such.

Newbie is only a position on the forum; it doesn't mean that the newbie is a baby. On the internet, people can freely say how they feel or speak about what their opinion is. It could be harsh but informative, and you can still learn from it. Some experienced users don't just get harsh without still making some corrections. If you are someone who cannot bear harsh words or criticism, you might not really last long on the forum, but if you want to enjoy your stay here, you will learn to develop tough skin. Don't give a fuck to any fucking harsh word, but if truly it was a correction, make sure you learn from it and never make the mistake again.

The harshness of old members according you is actually not because they feel you or any newbie involved are not quality posters because everyone actually pasted through this stage and them being harsh is actually to guide and direct you on a way forward so that you would know what you are doing because some newbie actually feel reluctant when actually they started but as times goes on and correction and harshness takes place the better and faster that person involved actually learn.

We understand and most of us have been there. You can control how you react to their "harsh feedback". What I have come to notice is that the feedback they provide is correct but the manner in which they express it is harsh but does it matter. They're not your mother or sister. Another thing I noticed is that with time the newbie's post quality improves and the frequency of harsh comments also dies down. Time and the newbie's willingness to improve is all that matters here.

forum is a big interaction place, and it is full of different people from different places with different characters. So we should not expect different people to treat us the same way. The reason why I see some high-ranking members react badly to newbies is that when they done something wrong, maybe repeatedly that should just show that they are not happy with your actions.and in fact, not every member in the forum always reacts badly to posts or questions from newbies, despite how bad their posts may be. The truth is that if nobody is going against newbies when they break rules or do something wrong, the cases of spamming will be worse than this, and they will hardly learn fast.

Usually, it comes from newbies breaking rules and not doing their part in the discussion some of the newbies I encountered are all about spam and trying to scam, if a newcomer did his assignment check out the rules and do their part in contributing in a healthy discussion I don't think they will harsh words I seldom give harsh words to a newcomer who is trying his best to have a good output in a discussion.

If you're a newbie you have to earn your way here you have to show that you did your assignment and you deserve to be part of the community, the forum welcomes new people who will come and be part of a community with the intention and mindset of participating in a healthy discussion.