Topic: Seniors apply patience and kindness to newcomers - page 2. (Read 532 times)

If you are someone who also wants to learn from experienced members on this forum, I think you don't need to see harsh words other than words that are useful for yourself. Because not all experienced members here speak harshly towards all newcomers, even though you may have read words that you think are harsh but according to other people they are just ordinary words. So there's no need to think about these harsh words if you are focused on gaining more knowledge through experienced members here.

I also don't see any bad treatment of newcomers by experienced members on this forum, and you can see this in every topic that newcomers create with quite reasonable questions. What you have to see there is that there are always several experienced members who are still willing to provide answers to questions asked by newcomers quite accurately and are even accompanied by links that can be accessed for careful study.

This forum is an educative platform which means that everything have to be taking serious, I believe if you are doing the right thing no one will ever challenge you, for instance what happen here is like you are teaching your younger once lesson about what they have though them in school over and over again and they don't get it, definitely you will be annoy with them, that is what Forum is all about, and again Forum is a place of fact so been simple here newbies will think it is play ground. The way you said senior member behave over Newbies is just a message to them that there is no play here, and also it is a challenge for newbies to learn more about anything theta want to talk about. None of newbie here will like the forum user to attack him/her more than one time, that is why I said it's a challenge for newbies to take correction of their mistake.

Of a truth in the course of growing through ranks from a smaller to a higher rank one must encounter challenges on this platform and that is not what one should shy away from as these challenges are what builds one up in the course of staying here. Individuals are different likewise their ways of reasoning. Every one member with his her own perspective on how they go about their activities here which have been of very good Importance to them. If one encounters challenges or criticism here, I expect that one should look into it and take the advantageous aspect of it take build up and add to their knowledge.
You should note that the ladder to greater heights is not a smooth one as there are lots of steps you would need to take to getting to the pinnacle of success. Know that every criticism you get keeps you a step ahead if you look into it and take corrections.

That's very true, my friend. We can all learn from our own mistakes. When other members criticize you, it's not just an attempt to scold you they're trying to teach you. How you choose to perceive it makes all the difference. Advancing from a lower rank isn't easy, but it's not overly difficult either. One must be prepared to encounter various challenges on the path to a higher rank. The forum is populated by individuals with diverse perspectives, so expecting uniform responses isn't realistic. Ignore those who are abusive, and embrace the opportunity to learn from those who are trying to help you improve. Remember, learning from your mistakes is key.

Name drop those experienced members who are very harsh to newbies out there. I want to know because I might be one of them even though I'm not even close to being an experienced. 

Anyway, I don't notice this kind of thing where high ranked members or experienced members are very harsh to newbies. Well, it's a different story if those newbies are just posting for merits. They can feel if that newbie is just posting for merits or not. TBH, I'm kind to newbies who aren't fishing for merits, and if I see newbie who can post as constructive as other high ranked members out there, I will not think twice to give them merits because they deserve it.

TBH, I've seen some newbie-ranked members in the past, and within a few months, ranked up to be a Senior Member, then a Hero Member, then became a Legendary. They ranked up way faster than me, and I commend them. I'm kind, but if I'm one of the members who talks harsh to them then I will adjust for them.

You're expect people should be kind when you're open this kind thread? it's like creating a tutorial how to life, first; eat three times in a day, second; drink at least 8 cups of water, take a shower two times in a day, go to toilet when you're want to pee or poo, sleep at least 8 hours in a day and many more.

I mean, without telling to other people how to life, they already know it by nature and have been taught in school.

Sometimes, harshness is what they really need to get the forum clean from nonsense, I don't mean to sound wicked but this forum has rules, it's on the newbie how they take every harsh advice on the forum, it's for their own good and for the sake of the forum too, I remember making a topic where the replies I got are somehow harsh, but I don't let it bother me, I took the advice and work on my mistakes, maybe if they don't use harshness I wouldn't have take it seriously.

Newbies need to read the rules of the forum first, you can't copy a whole content from another website and post it on this forum without receiving some harsh words from members, the forum rules is strongly against plagiarism, so for someone who is a beginner and choose to ignore the rules, how will one respond to them? By pampering them and saying they do the right thing?

Some newbies are not even improving after all the advice people post on here, they post nonsense on the forum and they fail to improve themselves, shit posting isn't going to get such people anywhere, and such people deserves the harshness, because they fail to improve.

I think you, OP, are exaggerating what you think is the problem. You were not on the forum in those days when there was a bounty boom and when alternative accounts, in order to increase their activity, wrote nonsense everywhere. Because of this, it was precisely those today's users, whom you call elderly today, who began to reproach newcomers for their stupid and useless posts. In addition, the forum is not a school, and we are not teachers, so everyone can freely express their feelings if someone observes inappropriate behavior. No one here is responsible for anyone; understand the rule that there are different people on the network with different views, and tell them who should do what is simply useless. The best way, if someone has the soul of a snowflake, is to put on thick skin and realize that if you don't like someone, just hit the ignore button.

I have personally never come across this before though, it might be happening but it is not something to worry about as long as the newbie is here to learn. If a newbie is not scolded for his wrong habit here, he might assume it to be the ethics of the forum. Important thing for newbies to note is that, in every community, there are certain principles put in place in order to make it lively for everyone but unfortunately majority of newbies overlooked or care less to know about these rules and consequently ending up breaking them. Let assume the forum is a company and you happen to be the CEO, will you tolerate such attitude in your company? I guess NO!

Forum operates with principles and you have nothing to worry about once you adhere to these principles. Correction are meant to make you perfect in the future. You can either accept to be corrected or you continue to live in erroneous and misguidance.

I am sure you have experienced harsh things in the real world, I think they are not harsh, I have experienced it first hand, but that is just because you were hurt by the reality of things, maybe you grew in a different culture that is why you are taking things personally, people here will correct you if you are wrong and there is nothing wrong with that, be mad if you were not corrected even you already knew it was wrong in the first place, don't take thing here personally, this forum don't tolerate rude people or saying bad things to others.

The forum is a place that supports everyone's freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not excluded from that; we all have the right to speak out our minds, and others are also entitled to different opinions. You, as a member, be it a higher rank or a newbie, don't always expect everyone to give a positive feedback on whatever you say; most people will always find fault and issue where you might less expect it. That's their point of view; it's either you agree with them and make corrections or you disagree and defend yourself that one is left for you.
 
As for the kind of words that are used to address some certain issue, most people don't treat people whom they think are just here for their selfish interests and are looking for means to show the forum and its members that they can outsmart them. They don't treat such people as friendly. If any newbie makes any post that makes sense, you will see other higher-ranking members appreciating the post and supporting the user's idea, but if they say anything that appears to be false, you will receive the opposite.
 
And sometimes there is some advice that comes from higher-ranking members to newbies that might appear to look like harsh words or insults, but deep down they are really not insults, and the user might have just misunderstood the whole thing. I can't deny the fact that most members might appear not to be friendly, but not all higher-ranking members are. The way we view and perceive responses sometimes matters a lot. Someone who makes a statement is only responsible for what he or she said and not what the reader understands. The writer might mean a different thing, while the reader can find a different meaning to it.

When it comes to public forums; there are no seniors or juniors in the sense of it; why? because thats just a forum status. It is also important to note that not following guidelines is enough to draw criticisms. How? Every newbie is expected to use beginner & help on how to get started in the forum or join your language local board to get started (this is to ensure that there are not many repetitions in posts made).

There are different kinds of individuals in the forum including scammers; it is wrong prejudice to assume that all newcomers are here to learn. i agree with you in regards to abusive language. As individuals, we need to be respectful in approach and communications while using the forum (FunFact: i am not sure i have seen an abusive thread before, has there been any at all)?

Finally; i am of the believe that no one, owes anyone kindness; so do you, do good, learn, unlearn and relearn without expecting equal reciprocation.

Become more stronger emotionally, even if you get criticized.

Members of the forum will say things as they want and most times are not concerned about how the person in subject may feel. It is not their duty to care about how you handle feedbacks that you get because like I have said before, to some people the things and language that you consider offensive are not offensive to them.

There are some people who are just stubborn and wouldn't listen to corrections thereby making senior colleagues feel very upset not just with them but for almost all newcomers.
Thou sometimes this senior mates are not objective to an extent, they just believe on their own perspective of viewing things, and conclude that most of this post are just to earn merit mean while some of the newcomers make this post with ignorance that such topics has been treated before may be in a much better way or less. But in their subjective reality they think it's helpful to share such information. E.g (Churchillvv) I once did share what I felt was very helpful to newbies and made a suggestion but without knowing that topic have been treated several times with different formations. What I lacked was the use of the Search button and I believe that is what most of us (newcomers) lack too, if we use it very well then there will be no reposting of topics or less reposting.
Thou I will also appreciate the rate which some members of the forum are slow to anger reacting to some post, because I have seen some posters who have been repeatedly corrected but didn't cumulate this advices and then causing wrath upon their selves.

You don't need to be afraid to interact with anyone here, but you also need to know that everyone has their own character and way of conveying things. You shouldn't be too sensitive or maybe you have a very soft heart? so you get hurt easily? There is an ignore button under each member's profile, if you don't want to see a particular member then press that button and you won't see them again, it's simple. But try not to be too sensitive

Aside from learning new information here you should also learn on how to deal with different attitude of people since you cannot always please other people to have patience to explain anything. You also need to understand that we have different mood swing especially we are dealing investment and maybe due to some certain losses other became harsh since their day is not good so understand them and for sure you will be fine. Just do efforts to learn from multiple people since it can strengthen you and make you flexible to any people around.

There are some things which some newbies do which I think it’s not really necessary, and things like that will make high rank members get angry and talk to them anyhow, I notice that recently when a newbie creates account, they are always creating threads and seeking for guidance and rules about the forum, but I think all those threads are unnecessary, how will you want forum members to send you rules and regulations of the forum when they are already pinned here, any serious member which is really ready to learn won’t create threads like that, because all the necessary information’s needed are already in different sections and they are pinned, seeing newbies asking for the same information annoys me.

There's no one entitled to bully anyone in here... Everyone has an equal right to self expression - buh, y'all don't even see it that way...y'all be complaining that some dude abused the living hell outta y'all - REMEMBER, this is a Media site, not a conference hall in real life... anyone can disagree constructively, sentimentally and otherwise to what you gotta say...
I dunno if peeps have been taunting them downlines buh, atleast I've not been a witness of that anywhere in here...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

All you stated is the truth and every reasonable user of this group should understand and agree with you, but I am sorry that things are not so here. No one cautions anyone to treat anyone with leniency, rather they will advice you to grow a think skin.
It is not even experienced members that are the problems. I have noticed some new generation newbies who managed to pack merits easily to rank up, these are the set that are very harsh on newbies. They are barely 1 year in the forum but they attack and abuse newcomers at any slight chance.
I cannot change anything, just follow the system.

This is a public space and we all come from different parts of the world, from different backgrounds and you don't expect everyone to treat you the same way. If you are not ready to stand the criticism and harsh treatment here, then Bitcointalk is not for you. We've an adage in my local dialect which simply says what cannot kill you makes you stronger. As a newbie, you must learn to take the stones with the lessons, learn to observe, try to post less, learn to read more and you will be fine.