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Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 12:23:23 PM

Understood. but why should i assign this message to my address?

It basically proves that you are the owner of that particular address. Otherwise, they would not be able to tell if you are not just a random person who wants to take your donation away.

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Understood. but why should i assign this message to my address?

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Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 11:58:09 AM

is this wallet refers to WL?

thanks.

It should be the wallet address you have sent the donation from.

Was https://mempool.space/tx/a04709737b03c42169549ca5a5df8fa0840982782165663887fa691b0b697d8c indeed you transaction? Is 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo your address? Then this is what you should use.

You should sign a message with that wallet because it's the only proper way to know that it was indeed you the one who has sent that donation.
Without this bit it can be anybody asking them to return donations, just for the fun of it. So this approach (with signing the message) should give your request much more credibility, because it's only you who can do that.

I suggest something like:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hi, I donated to Wikileaks today 2021-11-15 from the address 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo the equivalent of 5000 USD and I meant to send only 50 USD. See transaction ID a04709737b03c42169549ca5a5df8fa0840982782165663887fa691b0b697d8c. I would ask you kindly to return the difference caused by my mistake, if possible, to my bitcoin address 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

(Only) your wallet should be able to sign the message using address 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo.
You may post it here first so we can verify it.

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Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 11:58:09 AM

is this wallet refers to WL?

Are you asking if you should refer Electrum to WikiLeaks? No, there's no reason to do that.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on November 15, 2021, 11:43:35 AM

My recommendation is to sign them a message with your address; that will prove it's, indeed, you who made the mistake and not just another individual who claims that. They're not forced to refund you, but if you stand lucky, they may do.

To sign a message, open up Electrum -> Click on the addresses tab (if it's not shown click on View -> Show Addresses) -> Find 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo, right click to it and then sign a message.

You should then contact them as following:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

is this wallet refers to WL?

thanks.

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My recommendation is to sign them a message with your address; that will prove it's, indeed, you who made the mistake and not just another individual who claims that. They're not forced to refund you, but if you stand lucky, they may do.

To sign a message, open up Electrum -> Click on the addresses tab (if it's not shown click on View -> Show Addresses) -> Find 1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo, right click to it and then sign a message.

You should then contact them as following:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1KcmJjKKSyUQZqrMfKwSnRtSiGsHsz52Vo

-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

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If you somehow manage to contact Wikileaks and explained how you made a stupid rookie mistakes sending them much bigger donation,
you would still need to prove ownership of your original address used to send them Bitcoin, and even then it's not guaranteed they would send you back any coins.
I don't know what exact BTC address you used to sent them donation (and I doubt if you really sent anything or you just trolling), but on Wikileaks website they clearly said that old 1HB5X... address should NOT be used anymore!
They only accept donation on new Segwit addresses starting with 3, and you can generate new address yourself with each click.

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Please do not use old (1HB5X...) donation address.

https://shop.wikileaks.org/donate

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on November 15, 2021, 11:25:09 AM

Regardless, even if it is a payment processor, they aren't going to go over the head of their customer and start processing a refunding for someone claiming to have sent a donation to their customer.

Clearly. Obviously OP has to discuss with Wikileaks.
My point was that because of "this or that" OP should not expect he will get back the exact difference in Bitcoin at the moment of sending (and that he may even get fiat).
But again: OP has to get a way to communicate with Wikileaks (i.e. get them answer) first.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on November 15, 2021, 11:08:27 AM

And then it could also be that 33wv... address belongs to a payment processor that has received the coins and transfers fiat into Wikileaks bank account.

It could be, but I don't think so. Almost every input to the address 33wv... comes from 1HB5..., which I would not expect if the 33wv... address was part of a payment processor. I would expect it either to receive many transactions from a variety of addresses if it is part of their central wallet, or to only receive a single transaction since they would generate a new address for each deposit. And similarly, every transaction out of that address is out of that address only, and never combines or consolidates funds with other addresses. It certainly sends a payment to a CoinPayments linked address as Lucius has said above, but I don't think it's owned by them.

Regardless, even if it is a payment processor, they aren't going to go over the head of their customer and start processing a refunding for someone claiming to have sent a donation to their customer.

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 11:13:26 AM

ready donate for any helpful information

There is literally nothing anyone on this forum can do. Bitcoin transactions are not reversible and so the only entity who can refund your money is the entity you sent it to. Contact WikiLeaks in every way you can and be patient while you wait for a response.

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ready donate for any helpful information

privately

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on November 15, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

That transaction was closely followed by this one, where his donation is swept to the 33wv... address he has shared above: https://mempool.space/tx/c08a96db4cd8fe6b8f05c83f950adadfa094be9945ff5299225eb465c59ba202. Pretty much every donation to the 1HB5... address is swept to the 33wv... address, so it's safe to assume that it also belongs to WikiLeaks.

Does Wikileaks keep the coins? I doubt it. And then it could also be that 33wv... address belongs to a payment processor that has received the coins and transfers fiat into Wikileaks bank account.

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on November 15, 2021, 10:53:10 AM

I'm assuming this is OP's initial transaction: https://mempool.space/tx/a04709737b03c42169549ca5a5df8fa0840982782165663887fa691b0b697d8c
He pays 0.07581473 BTC to the address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v, which is known to belong to WikiLeaks, although it is an old donation address that they have since replaced.

That transaction was closely by this one, where his donation is swept to the 33wv... address he has shared above: https://mempool.space/tx/c08a96db4cd8fe6b8f05c83f950adadfa094be9945ff5299225eb465c59ba202. Pretty much every donation to the 1HB5... address is swept to the 33wv... address, so it's safe to assume that it also belongs to WikiLeaks.

OP will simply need to contact WikiLeaks, inform them of hist mistake, and kindly ask for them to return the excess donation: https://wikileaks.org/Enquiries-and-Contact.html

i ve contacted them already but it is very low chance they will answer directly

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Quote from: Lucius on November 15, 2021, 10:34:47 AM

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on November 15, 2021, 10:21:08 AM

Isn't $4,950 a considerable sum? They haven't got their money back yet and I may seem pessimistic, but I don't think they will.

I had the impression that the OP had managed to solve the problem, unless the solved does not relate to something else, such as that he realized that it was a WL donation address.

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 09:21:22 AM

solved
Yes it is wikileaks donatation address

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 10:19:15 AM

any ideas who can own this address?

33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

Is this the address from the WL donation page? As far as I can see they use SegWit addresses starting with 3, and the address you are interested in has a link to CoinPayments -> https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/577901d888720fab?from_address=33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

what can i do with this information. please advice

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I'm assuming this is OP's initial transaction: https://mempool.space/tx/a04709737b03c42169549ca5a5df8fa0840982782165663887fa691b0b697d8c
He pays 0.07581473 BTC to the address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v, which is known to belong to WikiLeaks, although it is an old donation address that they have since replaced.

That transaction was closely followed by this one, where his donation is swept to the 33wv... address he has shared above: https://mempool.space/tx/c08a96db4cd8fe6b8f05c83f950adadfa094be9945ff5299225eb465c59ba202. Pretty much every donation to the 1HB5... address is swept to the 33wv... address, so it's safe to assume that it also belongs to WikiLeaks.

OP will simply need to contact WikiLeaks, inform them of his mistake, and kindly ask for them to return the excess donation: https://wikileaks.org/Enquiries-and-Contact.html

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They moved $5000 from original WL address 1HB5XMLmzFVj8ALj6mfBsbifRoD4miY36v to this one

33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

I ve checked previous history , they did it many times .

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on November 15, 2021, 10:21:08 AM

Isn't $4,950 a considerable sum? They haven't got their money back yet and I may seem pessimistic, but I don't think they will.

I had the impression that the OP had managed to solve the problem, unless the solved does not relate to something else, such as that he realized that it was a WL donation address.

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 09:21:22 AM

solved
Yes it is wikileaks donatation address

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 10:19:15 AM

any ideas who can own this address?

33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

Is this the address from the WL donation page? As far as I can see they use SegWit addresses starting with 3, and the address you are interested in has a link to CoinPayments -> https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/577901d888720fab?from_address=33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

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Quote from: Lucius on November 15, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

It is possible that instead of the amount in BTC he entered the amount in $, but he completely overlooked that there were more zeros than what he intended to send.

That was my second guess, but it sounds far-fetched. I mean, you can't really overlook two zeroes...

Quote from: Lucius on November 15, 2021, 10:15:35 AM

I guess OP was very eager to donate and in a hurry didn’t pay attention to detail, fortunately, this time that mistake did not cost him a considerable sum.

Isn't $4,950 a considerable sum? They haven't got their money back yet and I may seem pessimistic, but I don't think they will.

Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 10:19:15 AM

33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

You tell us. You sent $5000. Tongue

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any ideas who can own this address?

33wvNiUkXJAJ85e4yXJxJVWtsKqWDsDFK4

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on November 15, 2021, 09:14:33 AM

I'm really curious on how you did this. Even if you didn't confuse BTC with mBTC, you should have only sent 7,600 sats and not 76,000 which is $50.

It is possible that instead of the amount in BTC he entered the amount in $, but he completely overlooked that there were more zeros than what he intended to send. I think that many do not use the preview button, which could prevent such errors, although even before sending there is a window in which the transaction must be confirmed with a password, and there is the number of coins/fiat value of the transaction.

I guess OP was very eager to donate and in a hurry didn’t pay attention to detail, fortunately, this time that mistake did not cost him a considerable sum.

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Quote from: orbi11 on November 15, 2021, 09:30:48 AM

the way is to send another transaction with small amount and put description

The description never arrives to the receiver. It's just for the sender. Think of it as a label to understand what's your transaction history.

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