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Topic: Serious Question - Nullc, are you Satoshi? - page 5. (Read 4278 times)

legendary
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firstly the OP doesnt offer any analytical proof of "writing styles are very similar" where others have actually done some analytic and those dont point to greg.
even the OP shows he hasnt done much in the way of writing style analysis by saying " I have the jgaap software and I may run some tests (but I probably will not)"

meaning his opinion is just an opinion based on his personal view(nothing concrete). and he doesnt want to do more analytics because he doesnt want to enforce his opinion, but instead leave it vague enough to step away from without much debate

secondly people confuse anonymous (wanting privacy) vs anonymous (attention seeking anarchist hackers). satoshi wanted privacy and personal control and greg wanted anarchy and fame

also the genesis block was not a washington times newspaper article. and greg does not say "bloody". meaning satoshi is more british language based
BTW, I did come to my senses after that brief bout with 1.3, this release is still going to be 0.3 beta not 1.0.

I really appreciate the effort, but there are a lot of problems.

We don't want to lead with "anonymous".  (I've been meaning to edit the homepage)

"The developers expect that this will result in a stable-with-respect-to-energy currency outside the reach of any government." -- I am definitely not making an such taunt or assertion.

It's not stable-with-respect-to-energy.  There was a discussion on this.  It's not tied to the cost of energy.  NLS's estimate based on energy was a good estimated starting point, but market forces will increasingly dominate.

Sorry to be a wet blanket.  Writing a description for this thing for general audiences is bloody hard.  There's nothing to relate it to.

and greg is american.




Yeah because some as smart as satoshi wouldn't use foreign expressions in purpose to make the task of trying to pinpoint his nationally way harder.

That proves or disproves nothing. The fact is, gmaxwell could have been satoshi since he is one of the top contributors of all time and still very active, very smart guy, so could be it just like it could be Adam Back or Nick for all we know.
legendary
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Be quiet, Franky, real people want to have a real discussion


I just mean some folks think BTC is a govt project - the blockchain is the world's best surveillance system/honeypot
Those folks need an upgraded version of tinfoil hats.

I've outlined a plausible scenario under which deep-state actors created Bitcoin, not as a honeypot NWO currency, but as an inevitable consequence of advancing computer science that must be front-ran, before some guy-in-a-basement cypherpunk comes up with it themselves. Of course, under that scenario, Satoshi being some deep state banking oligarch is still pretty inconsequential, as Bitcoin was clearly rushed out before any tenable long-term design had been established (and the Satoshi coins may end up unspendable as a result of that rush/oversight)
legendary
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firstly the OP doesnt offer any analytical proof of "writing styles are very similar" where others have actually done some analytic and those dont point to greg.
even the OP shows he hasnt done much in the way of writing style analysis by saying " I have the jgaap software and I may run some tests (but I probably will not)"

meaning his opinion is just an opinion based on his personal view(nothing concrete). and he doesnt want to do more analytics because he doesnt want to enforce his opinion, but instead leave it vague enough to step away from without much debate

secondly people confuse anonymous (wanting privacy)1 vs anonymous (attention seeking anarchist hackers). satoshi wanted privacy and personal control1 and greg wanted anarchy and fame

also the genesis block was not a washington times newspaper article. and greg does not say "bloody". meaning satoshi is more british language based2
BTW, I did come to my senses after that brief bout with 1.3, this release is still going to be 0.3 beta not 1.0.

I really appreciate the effort, but there are a lot of problems.

We don't want to lead with "anonymous".  (I've been meaning to edit the homepage)1

"The developers expect that this will result in a stable-with-respect-to-energy currency outside the reach of any government." -- I am definitely not making an such taunt or assertion.

It's not stable-with-respect-to-energy.  There was a discussion on this.  It's not tied to the cost of energy.  NLS's estimate based on energy was a good estimated starting point, but market forces will increasingly dominate.

Sorry to be a wet blanket2 .  Writing a description for this thing for general audiences is bloody hard2 .  There's nothing to relate it to.

and greg is american.

anyway. lets just skip to the next drama event of the next name people think up, usually it takes 6 months for people to reboot the "who is satoshi" drama so lets just skip through and then get on with our lives.. because theres no point wasting pages of messages of greg=satoshi because it simply lacks anything concrete.


legendary
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greg isnt satoshi, but give it a few weeks and people will start to say another blockstreamer is satoshi
first it will be P wuille
then a few others
ofcourse Luke JR wont be considered because he is too nuts to be ever considered. and ofcourse preparations are being made by blockstream to kick luke to the curb in the same dramatic tactic as hearne and gavins "luke future implementation release is an altcoin"..

but eventually people will demand adam back is proclaimed bitcoin overlord.

other then that ill skip all the drama of false prophets and messiah complexes used to try ensuring blockstream grab the "brand title" of bitcoin.

The usual arrogant egotism from you Franky (I guessing this is Franky#2....?). Demonstrate some (any) analytic ability first, and maybe you'll get an audience one day

Tell us, oh great one, who Satoshi is, with your amazing identity divining powers lol
legendary
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I don't know what others would do, but I think it puts a totally different spin on the last year.  I could very easily empathize with his various positions if he were to be Satoshi.
Why the 'last year' in particular? I think this would be a case of subjective bias. You currently can't empathize with his various positions, but would be able to if he was satoshi?

Also, Lauda, I take it you don't find the Midmagic = Greg part that much of a stretch?  
I don't. However, I wouldn't say that you have conslusive proof there. I'd say you have some circumstantial 'proof' (although I don't know about the resemblance in the writing style as I have never done such an analysis myself).

Again, this is all from a position of love and admiration.
I guess that it is fine if the intent is to not attack him.
legendary
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greg isnt satoshi, but give it a few weeks and people will start to say another blockstreamer is satoshi
first it will be P wuille
then a few others
ofcourse Luke JR wont be considered because he is too nuts to be ever considered. and ofcourse preparations are being made by blockstream to kick luke to the curb in the same dramatic tactic as hearne and gavins "lukes future HF implementation release is an altcoin"..

but eventually people will demand adam back is proclaimed bitcoin overlord.

other then that ill skip all the drama of false prophets and messiah complexes used to try ensuring blockstream grab the "brand title" of bitcoin.

legendary
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I think those proof aren't enough to says that Greg is Satoshi. And he won't say that he's Satoshi Nakamoto whether it's true or not.
Why people want to discover Satoshi's identity while Satoshi don't want no one knows about it?
legendary
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Lauda, I don't understand your answer also if you reply this then

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That does make me curious though: If this turned out to be true, would the people that have been attacking Gregory stop because he's Satoshi? Lips sealed

I don't know what others would do, but I think it puts a totally different spin on the last year.  I could very easily empathize with his various positions if he were to be Satoshi.

Also, Lauda, I take it you don't find the Midmagic = Greg part that much of a stretch?  If you can buy that, then making the connection to Satoshi becomes doable (not necessarily probable) - midmagic is competent and was hanging around the usual suspects at the time the whitepaper was released.   

Again, this is all from a position of love and admiration.

hero member
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That does make me curious though: If this turned out to be true, would the people that have been attacking Gregory stop because he's Satoshi? Lips sealed

I don't know what others would do, but I think it puts a totally different spin on the last year.  I could very easily empathize with his various positions if he were to be Satoshi.

Also, Lauda, I take it you don't find the Midmagic = Greg part that much of a stretch?  If you can buy that, then making the connection to Satoshi becomes doable (not necessarily probable) - midmagic is competent and was hanging around the usual suspects at the time the whitepaper was released.  

Again, this is all from a position of love and admiration.
legendary
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Do you know what is the point of it all at the end of the day?
The point is wasting everyone's time, especially his.

It is how you deny that makes the difference.
It makes zero difference.

The point is to understand where this all came from a little better.  People are inherently inquisitive.  
Okay: That's the point, fine. However, what are the chances for him to admit this regardless of whether he is satoshi or not? I'd say very close to 0.

I just mean some folks think BTC is a govt project - the blockchain is the world's best surveillance system/honeypot
Those folks need an upgraded version of tinfoil hats.

Either way, if the answer is "yes, greg is Satoshi" - either in whole or in part - I'm impressed as a person could get and want to shake his hand.
That does make me curious though: If this turned out to be true, would the people that have been attacking Gregory stop because he's Satoshi? Lips sealed
hero member
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These questions are pointless if you have a brain and consider the following:
1) If he is Satoshi, he will deny it.
2) If he isn't Satoshi, he will deny it.

What is the point of such article? To waste time? To get agencies to investigate Maxwell?

The point is to understand where this all came from a little better.  People are inherently inquisitive.  

If Greg were to be Satoshi, it would explain a lot - but I don't know that it would change a lot. Greg is probably already being looked at by agencies anyway - either b/c he works for one (not saying he does, I just mean some folks think BTC is a govt project - the blockchain is the world's best surveillance system/honeypot) or because he's a leader in this community. Either way, if the answer is "yes, greg is Satoshi" - either in whole or in part - I'm impressed as a person could get and want to shake his hand.
legendary
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These questions are pointless if you have a brain and consider the following:
1) If he is Satoshi, he will deny it.
2) If he isn't Satoshi, he will deny it.

What is the point of such article? To waste time? To get agencies to investigate Maxwell?

Do you know what is the point of it all at the end of the day?

It is how you deny that makes the difference.

I mean, Mr.Felt has a point, and that is...undeniableCool
legendary
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Interesting rabbit hole Mr. felt.

I feel his demeanor is too.... Cocky? Maybe not the right way to put it, but he seems to me to be full of himself in some of his tweets. Although I just skimmed threw them (could be completely wrong as I didn't read all the back and forth).

Love the investigation though!
legendary
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Terminated.
These questions are pointless if you have a brain and consider the following:
1) If he is Satoshi, he will deny it.
2) If he isn't Satoshi, he will deny it.

What is the point of such article? To waste time? To get agencies to investigate Maxwell?
sr. member
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7 countries police are searching for Satoshi Namatodo any you can say that Nullc is Satoshil i think still no body know that who is satoshi.
hero member
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https://medium.com/@Felt/serious-question-greg-are-you-satoshi-ee13c832563b#.bsucczoxj

EDIT - I now retract the statement that nullc = midnightmagic.  Further research on the matter at the Tahoe site has led me a different direction.  Example:

http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.tahoe.devel/1365
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